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Magoo_Mr.

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Today (01-28-2005) ... I received a letter (dated 12-29-2005) ... from the regional DVA and it was titled:

..... "DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS BENEFITS INCREASED" .....

Well, it did show an increase in monthly payment bennies ... HOWEVER ...

Below that statement and continuing on the back of the 1 page letter it also stated:

That there are nine (9) things that the DVA will be "cross checking" on disabled veterans in reference to their status.

Most were common sense .. but number 3 said ... That the DVA will be checking with SSA for those that are on TDIU & paid at 100% rate ... to see if any are receiving "substancial earned income".

Now, I don't go crazy over this ... but, this is the first time that I can remember the DVA sending this kind of info to me.

I guess that this is a DVA SOP letter ??

... Magoo ... aka ... Bill ... B)

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Don't worry, that's stated every year on this VA letter (VA Form 21-8741-1). The VA has been cross checking IU veterans with the Social Security Administration for years.

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Yeah- they dont mean SSA disability- they mean evidence that a TDIU vet is working and getting substantial income.(I think- not sure- that Substantial income is not anything below the poverty level???)

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I received a letter just yesterday it took 2 months to find me i have moved from Beaverton oregon to portland oregon and then came to manila phillippines and now stay in cebu .. the letter says you are a veteran and you receive 2700 a month 70% and IU is you do not sign and returne this letter within 2 months we will assum you are presently working and will cut your disability to 1400 a month starting april 1 ,2006 well i just sent the letter in but its still a bullshit way to try to rip off the vet.. Because i didnt sign it means i am working .. how do they see that ? How about it took a long time to reach me.. and i do not live here so before anyone says change of address i am waiting for a medical sugery at Portland to be done but NO money they say.. so i chose to wait here..

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Since the uproar over IU last year with the Disability Benefits Commission, the VA has reverted back to these forms (the ones that need to be signed and sent back to the VA). The VA used to do this with IU veterans a long time ago, so actually it's nothing new. Also, if you receive Social Security Disability, you must sign and return a similar form every year to them too. So, I don't think the VA is out to get you.

It's probably not the VA's fault that it took the letter so long to get to you. You might want to check with the U.S. postal service. Did you leave a forwarding address with the them to where you'll be for the next couple of months? The VA just sends corospondence to the veteran's last known address, so if you failed to let them know your current address, or didn't give a heads up to the Postal service, you're probobaly going to have some problems like that!

I'm not trying to bash you or anything like that, but sometimes alot of veterans complain about the VA when it isn't really their fault! I'm not here to defend the VA either. Everyone knows the VA can srew up things from time to time, and believe me, I've seen some pretty good ones! But, I truely believe that for the most part the VA does try to do the right thing. Look at how many times the Socail Security Adminitrations screws up and denys someones benefits, but you don't hear half as many complaints about them! The "sky" isn't falling!

OK, I'm ready, let the bashing begin!

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mail being forwarded overseas, can get put on the "slow boat to china" route, even if you give the post office a forwarding address to an overseas address you will not get within a week service like you do moving from St Louis to San Diego, and then if your mail man is off the day that "letter" showed up, so it got delivered, then it laid around the house for a week or two before the new occupant sticks it back out for the mailman to forward it, if they don't throw it in the trash. I use to be a letter carrier so there are a 1001 things that can happen to a single letter, some of it innocent mistakes and some blatant in your face type stuff, I think letters that are going to reslut in a termination of benefits should require a signed 3857 card to be returned to the VARO to show that you recieved it and the 60 days should start from the date you signed the card, not the day they mailed it. Then you could blame no one but yourself if you miss the deadline. But that makes sense do the government will never do it.

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Mail coming over here to Germany generally takes 5-7 days through the international mailing system. However, form time to time I've had mail get to me within 3 days!

The APO is a totally different thing. For the most part, the mail takes about 10-14 days. Even though this is considered to be mail within the continetal U.S. Go figure!

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Gang:

I forgot to mention that my DVA & VARO letter took a month to reach me ... and I am in the ... "SAME CITY" ... and just a few miles up the road too.

So ... I am sure that the DVA & VARO did NOT mail it when it was dated.

My letter actually is from the DVA (Department of Veteran Affairs) .......... and the VARO is also in the same building and uses a different envelope .... and with a different P.O Box on their return address.

Today, I talked to another veteran, close to me ... who received the same letter that I got on the same day that I received mine and his had the same DVA letter date too.

The problem is ... when the letter has this PREPRINTED on it -->

--> "Presorted -- First-Class Mail -- US Postage Paid -- Department of Veteran Affairs" <--

... PRINTED on the envelope and NOT put on with even a hand stamped return address or a postage meter ... There is NO way to tell when they mailed it, because the post office does NOT cancel stamp and/or date stamp it.

I think this may be a new tactic by the VA and this is a new ... "Style of Envelope" ... and really covers their azz.

... Magoo .. aka ... Bill ... :P

PS .. You all have given me an idea ... tomorrow, I am going to send the DVA a CERTIFIED LETTER (with a copy of their letter & envelope received) indicating the date on their letter and the date that I received it .. and ask what happened ???? ...... I wonder IF I will get a response ???

Then, I will put a copy of that correspondence in MY VA personal file for future ammo. B)

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I just received my notice of my rate increase dated 29 Dec 05 thursday they had sent it to my old address even though I notified everyone that I moved in November, SSD, VA, even my VA meds are being mailed to the new address so why does the VARO insist on using the old address, it delays the mail a month, I got a notice last week to submit new evidence within 30 days I submitted it the next day and got it date stamped, they are something else.

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Magoo - you might want to call 800-827-1000 and confirm the address they have for you. That's the address that's consider "current address of record." All mail from the VA comes from DVA. DVA and VARO are one in the same. In the event a letter is not postmark dated, the VA assumes that you received it 5 days from the date on letter, unless there is credible evidence that is contrary. And then there's the USPS handling issue - I see another disgruntled former employee has expressed their disatisfaction.

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If I had to sign one of those suckers every year, I'd be sending them AHEAD of schedule! Copy the form you have and send them for the years 06 and 07 and 08 !! If nothing else, I'd be sure to send it early next year. Maybe a vet could hand-write a notarized letter to state they are not working, send it the same time every year?!

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