ptsd Ptsd Due To Mst With Good Evidence But...

[assaultedairman]

Hi! I'm new here and have a few questions. I know I've likely made at least one mistake in the past regarding this, however my DAV guy told me we can work it in my favor if need be.

In 2006 I was diagnosed with Chronic PTSD (is what it says in the system, but the triage nurse from Friday says it doesn't say specifics as to the cause even though I know I told them about my childhood [i know...DUMB DUMB DUMB] and the male psych intern told me he felt I had PTSD due to childhood trauma).

However, in the past four months my PTSD has gotten progressively worse (to the point the the Triage nurse at the V.A. Mental Health clinic said my PTSD was severe on Friday [2 March 2012]).

Initially I didn't understand why until the nightmares started and I was able to start putting things together and once that happened I started remembering things I worked VERY hard to forget. I was told flat out on Friday that I have PTSD due to MST not related to childhood trauma and that the childhood trauma diagnosis may be a misdiagnosis. When my fiancee (who is 100% disabled vet due to combat PTSD) came in he asked what she felt my GAF was and she said 30. He then asked if she did any kind of PCL on me and she said she did and that my score was an 82. After some research I found out what this meant and now I'm scared as hell for myself.

My fiancee has helped me to see that fling disability is a good thing and will help me out (single mom of two young girls). My DAV guy asked me if I had filled out a DD Form 2910, I told him I had and that the individual who harassed / assaulted / staled me had suffered punitive action (whether under the table or not I don't know). Apparently this means I filed an unrestricted DD Form 2910 which is likely still on record (hopefully) either in my SPR or at the SAPRO at the base I was stationed at or the AF SAPRO in Texas. I doubt I have a copy of the 2910 (as in me having a copy of this from 2002 is about as likely as me being able to remember what I wore three days after I was discharged from the AF).

My question is, how likely is it that a copy of the 2910 is in my SPR? If it isn't in my SPR, how likely is it that it was saved so that we can retrieve it from evidence in my claim? If we can't get ahold of the 2910, but I cite that I did file one and that it was an unrestricted report, will they take that into account or will the fact that we can't find it or get ahold of it work against me?

I have service medical records and service personnel records that show change in behavior etc... Also I wasn't diagnosed with any type of behavior issue or anything of that nature prior to military service. My DD 214 stated discharge is general under honorable conditions.

On the 2910 I told them I was harassed and stalked and that he assaulted me which he admitted to although he did attempt to say that I agreed to him touching me / me touching him (if you consider being pinned face first against a wall in an empty room in a loud and busy club while your arm is being dislocated and your hand forcibly shoved down someone who outranks you by 5 ranks pants consensual [this happened right after I reached this duty station]). He also raped me twice (didn't tell anyone about that either time out of fear of punishment) and assaulted me multiple other times. I am now waiting for the phone call to set up my psych and medical appointments with the MST clinic at the local V.A. in Honolulu.

Based on my last GAF of 30 and PCL of 82, my DAV guy told me I have a good shot either way I go even though I was an idiot and told the V.A. psych intern about my crappy childhood because I did a 2910.

Would you guys be willing to give me your take on the situation?

~~aa

[Wings]

Hi! I'm new here and have a few questions. I know I've likely made at least one mistake in the past regarding this, however my DAV guy told me we can work it in my favor if need be.

In 2006 I was diagnosed with Chronic PTSD (is what it says in the system, but the triage nurse from Friday says it doesn't say specifics as to the cause even though I know I told them about my childhood [i know...DUMB DUMB DUMB] and the male psych intern told me he felt I had PTSD due to childhood trauma).

However, in the past four months my PTSD has gotten progressively worse (to the point the the Triage nurse at the V.A. Mental Health clinic said my PTSD was severe on Friday [2 March 2012]).

Initially I didn't understand why until the nightmares started and I was able to start putting things together and once that happened I started remembering things I worked VERY hard to forget. I was told flat out on Friday that I have PTSD due to MST not related to childhood trauma and that the childhood trauma diagnosis may be a misdiagnosis. When my fiancee (who is 100% disabled vet due to combat PTSD) came in he asked what she felt my GAF was and she said 30. He then asked if she did any kind of PCL on me and she said she did and that my score was an 82. After some research I found out what this meant and now I'm scared as hell for myself.

My fiancee has helped me to see that fling disability is a good thing and will help me out (single mom of two young girls). My DAV guy asked me if I had filled out a DD Form 2910, I told him I had and that the individual who harassed / assaulted / staled me had suffered punitive action (whether under the table or not I don't know). Apparently this means I filed an unrestricted DD Form 2910 which is likely still on record (hopefully) either in my SPR or at the SAPRO at the base I was stationed at or the AF SAPRO in Texas. I doubt I have a copy of the 2910 (as in me having a copy of this from 2002 is about as likely as me being able to remember what I wore three days after I was discharged from the AF).

My question is, how likely is it that a copy of the 2910 is in my SPR? If it isn't in my SPR, how likely is it that it was saved so that we can retrieve it from evidence in my claim? If we can't get ahold of the 2910, but I cite that I did file one and that it was an unrestricted report, will they take that into account or will the fact that we can't find it or get ahold of it work against me?

I have service medical records and service personnel records that show change in behavior etc... Also I wasn't diagnosed with any type of behavior issue or anything of that nature prior to military service. My DD 214 stated discharge is general under honorable conditions.

On the 2910 I told them I was harassed and stalked and that he assaulted me which he admitted to although he did attempt to say that I agreed to him touching me / me touching him (if you consider being pinned face first against a wall in an empty room in a loud and busy club while your arm is being dislocated and your hand forcibly shoved down someone who outranks you by 5 ranks pants consensual [this happened right after I reached this duty station]). He also raped me twice (didn't tell anyone about that either time out of fear of punishment) and assaulted me multiple other times. I am now waiting for the phone call to set up my psych and medical appointments with the MST clinic at the local V.A. in Honolulu.

Based on my last GAF of 30 and PCL of 82, my DAV guy told me I have a good shot either way I go even though I was an idiot and told the V.A. psych intern about my crappy childhood because I did a 2910.

Would you guys be willing to give me your take on the situation?

~~aa

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If it were me, I would use the FOIA and Privacy Act (freedom of information act) to try to locate that DD Form 2910 "which is likely still on record (hopefully) either in my SPR or at the SAPRO at the base I was stationed at or the AF SAPRO in Texas". Freedom of Information is based on your need to know. Privacy Act is used to protect other idenntities --so ask them to redact/blacken out other service member's names if the DD Form is found. Otherwise, even if they have it, they might not want to release it if another individual has their name on it. Sometimes you'll get copies that have names blackened out for this reason. I would secure my evidence before I filed my claim, but that's just me. You can file a claim, and the VA is required under the VCAA (claims assist act) to tell you what kinds of evidence is required, and they will give you a year I think to secure the evidence. The good part about this is the VA can request the evidence and under some circumstances, they request might have more weight than ours ... Welcome to Hadit ;-) ~Wings

[assaultedairman]

I forgot to mention that I got out in 2002. Before all the new laws were enacted. I'm not sure if this will help.

I put a call into the SAPRO at DoD. Hopefully that will garner some info.

~aa

[Wings]

I forgot to mention that I got out in 2002. Before all the new laws were enacted. I'm not sure if this will help.

I put a call into the SAPRO at DoD. Hopefully that will garner some info.

~aa

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I would not make a phone call for vital information. I would definately use a FOIA and Privacy Act format (cite the laws). When you make phone calls, you have no paper trail and are basically telling the agency to go ahead and lose your information, oh and please remember the address I gave you? and send it to me whenever you feel like it? LOL! Veterans must learn to keep hard copies of their paper trails. You said this form can make or break your VA claim. It's important to put the government agency on notice that you mean BUSINESS. ~Wings

P.S.

How to Make a FOIA Request

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/foia/howtofoia.html

[assaultedairman]

This form isn't going to make or break my claim, but it would definitely help. After speaking with OSI (the AF's Office of Special Investigations) I found out that in 2002 they did not use the DD Form 2910. In 2002 any report regarding sex assault, rape, harassment, stalking etc...automatically generated an investigation by either the SP's (Security Forces) investigators or OSI agents. There were no restricted or unrestricted reporting options. They also told me that if he had admitted to having done it, as he did, then there is also a paper trail from that, too, as he would have been charged either at the Squadron or UCMJ (court martial) level. I do not believe he was charged at the UCMJ (court martial) level, as I was not required to testify, however, he could have been charged with an Article of some kind at the Squadron level which would explain why he had his E-7 taken before he could pin it on, base restriction, and loss of pay. What the OSI agent did tell me, however, was that a copy of the report would have been put in my SPR and, possibly, my SMR.

My FOIA is being faxed in tomorrow and my expedited request for my SPR and SMR will be going out tomorrow as well.

~~aa

[Wings]

This form isn't going to make or break my claim, but it would definitely help. After speaking with OSI (the AF's Office of Special Investigations) I found out that in 2002 they did not use the DD Form 2910. In 2002 any report regarding sex assault, rape, harassment, stalking etc...automatically generated an investigation by either the SP's (Security Forces) investigators or OSI agents. There were no restricted or unrestricted reporting options. They also told me that if he had admitted to having done it, as he did, then there is also a paper trail from that, too, as he would have been charged either at the Squadron or UCMJ (court martial) level. I do not believe he was charged at the UCMJ (court martial) level, as I was not required to testify, however, he could have been charged with an Article of some kind at the Squadron level which would explain why he had his E-7 taken before he could pin it on, base restriction, and loss of pay. What the OSI agent did tell me, however, was that a copy of the report would have been put in my SPR and, possibly, my SMR.

My FOIA is being faxed in tomorrow and my expedited request for my SPR and SMR will be going out tomorrow as well.

~~aa

Good Job!!

[assaultedairman]

Hi everyone! I'm sorry I've been unavailable, but I voluntarily put myself in the V.A. psych ward for a few days to to progressively worsening symptoms. My official diagnosis is Chronic PTSD / MDD due to MST. The OSI record will be requested via fax Monday morning (Monday afternoon their time) and I have multiple medical and service records to support my claim. I am now on Terazadone (for sleep and a mood stabilizer) and Prozac. My Psychiatrist while I was inpatient also offered me a med that would help with the nightmares.

My GAF upon initial eval prior to voluntary admit was 41. My GAF after admit onto the military unit was 40. (There were initially no beds on V.A. unit so they kicked me to military unit. They then got upset cuz I wouldn't [couldn't] eat and made little to no eye contact and crawled the walls to get away from uniformed men). My GAF upon discharge was 55 with meds, but they also expressed concern that if I went off my meds that I would end up back there or worse.

Axis I: PTSD --- Chronic, r/o MDD (r/o? What does that mean?)

Axis II: Deferred

Axis III: Asthma, Celiac's Disease

Axis IV: History of abuse, Occupational Stressors

Axis V: GAF 40 (upon admit; 55 upon discharge)

All doctors and nurses have now told me that if I claim it now I will likely get 70% - 100%, irregardless of the assault report, and if I get 100% it will likely be p&t. I know that what a non- c& p examining doctor says doesn't necessarily matter, but I can't help but think that if these people are saying it that I've got a pretty good chance. We shall see tho.

Any advice or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

~~aa

Edited March 10, 2012 by assaultedairman