gwvet90 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 (edited) on bottom of my c&p award form from my c-file Is a note in "remards" that reads "Dictated Letter Required: Potential Adverse Rating Vital M/R Exists - VUPD is Required" What does that mean? Edited August 15, 2006 by gwvet90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berta Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Never heard that before VUPS I think the M/R means vital Military or medical record exists- I am more concerned that they asked the C & P doc for dictated letter and already could determine potential adverse rating? Or wanted the letter to make sure it supported that? Dont know about you all out there but I would be pretty upset about this-and I would use the VA Query system and ask them specifically what this means. did you get an adverse rating already due to this C & P? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwvet90 Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 Sorry - it is VUPD - I just edited it. Yes - I did get an adverse rating - 3 claims denied s/c only 1 granted at 10% (so far...) I've NOD them all. The statement is on form 21-8947 C&P award.... it came from my c-file I don't know if it is an internal form, I didn't think it went to the C&P exam? but I am very new at this.... I know I have vital M/R out there - but they can't find them (or hadn't when I requested c-file) I was thinking it ment something they needed to obtain my "vital m/r's" - very confused..... So - it is form 21-8947 & at bottom in remarks it reads Dictated Letter Required: Potential Adverse Rating Vital M/R exists - VUPD is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mssoup1 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Just a question. As far as VUPD is concerned, do you know of anything about you or your claim that has to do with Vanderbilt? mssoup1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berta Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Carlie- I think it is a dictator code- 2 digits are usually dependency codes etc-denote combat etc - stuff like that Dictator codes are usually four digits- Don asked for a dictator code link in M21-1 about 2 months ago and I posted it here at hadit- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwvet90 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 No - nothing with Vanderbilt. I also think it is a dictator code - but I wanted to know what it stood for - so I could help them get it...... I do have NUMEROUS SMR's missing I got my c-file & they had only a small handfull of my records - Nothing about my back , nothing about my hypothermia, I had 2 operations - nothing on them either. Just a lot of ear infections & minor stuff - none of my major stuff was there........Maybe a code for trying again to get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berta Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 gwvet- have you attempted to get your SMRs at the NARA site with a SF 180? If NARA confirms that they are all at the VARO- obviously - they are not in your c file-but they are somewhere- Do you have a vet rep or NSO? Have a vet who VA said SMRS were all destroyed in the fire-yeah right- Asked for c file copy- found 3 SMRs- no water damage, no charring- said to vet - file SF 180- 4 weeks later vets gets from NARA the whole SMR shibang- with the nexus to his disability in them- It just amazes me how the most critical evidence a vet needs somehow "disappears" sometimes. And then usually they put it back in the c file-at some point- This vet's POA asked me if I thought the VA had this vets complete SMRS all that time-(time of his denial) and I said "of course they did-then they denied and sent them back to NARA but kept three" I dont know that for a fact but this is only way I could comprehend what happened- They (the Same RO I deal with)saw Air Force and an enlistment date prior to 1973 on his DD 214 -and made up the St Louis fire bull crap-robably without checking with NARA at all ---this tactic has worked for them to deny many many claims for years. I even had a vet who they denied due to "burnt records-St Louis" blah blah-no SMRs- and he had enlisted years AFTER the fire- He got his SMRs from NARA and got his SC award. Your SMRs are somewhere at the RO or still at NARA. (unless you applied for SSA or SSI?-try there too) They are critical to your claim and you need them to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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on bottom of my c&p award form from my c-file Is a note in "remards" that reads
"Dictated Letter Required: Potential Adverse Rating
Vital M/R Exists - VUPD is Required"
What does that mean?
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