mos1833 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 i stole the information below from another post.it got me thinking, if a vet is rated using a diagnostic code number.does the fact they used a dc number make it service connectied.in other words i was denied benefits,based on a certain diagnostic code.whether they use the code or not, does that mean any thing.at what pointis it called in to play. i am sorry if this is confusing, thanks-------------------------------------------------------------------------The assignment of a particular diagnostic code is "completelydependent on the facts of a particular case." See Butts v.Brown, 5 Vet. App. 532, 538 (1993). One diagnostic code maybe more appropriate than another based on such factors as anindividual's relevant medical history, the current diagnosisand demonstrated symptomatology. Any change in a diagnosticcode by VA must be specifically explained. Pernorio v.Derwinski, 2 Vet. App. 625 (1992). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Moderator brokensoldier244th Posted March 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2014 Not sure, exactly, what you are asking. If it was rated or denied under a diag code, that just means its the closest applicable code in the CFR that applies. GERD, for example, does not have a specific diag code, nor does ED, but they are assigned diag codes for "Loss of Creative organ" (ed) and Gastritis (I think) for GERD. rmoreno 1 The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound.Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book,and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching. --17 different possible sources, all lacking verifiable attribution. B.S. Doane College, Mgt Info Systems/Systems Analysis 2008 M.S.Ed. Purdue University, Instructional Development and Technology, Feb. 2021 M.S. Purdue University Information Technology/InfoSec, Dec 2022 100% P/T MDD Spine Radiculopathy Sleep Apnea Some other stuff -------------------------------------------B.S. Info Systems Mgt/Systems Analysis-Doane College 2008M.S. Instructional Technology and Design- Purdue University 2021 (I AM NOT A RATER- I work the claims BEFORE they are rated, annotating medical evidence in your records, VA and Legal documents, and DA/DD forms- basically a paralegal/vso/etc except that I also evaluate your records based on Caluza and try to justify and schedule the exams that you go to based on whether or not your records have enough in them to warrant those) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mos1833 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 thanks brokenlet me ask this, if you were denied (gerd) would they still use a d.c. number.or would they just say its denied.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Moderator brokensoldier244th Posted March 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2014 They should always list it. If I filed under a specific code (like my ED not getting SMC payments under "loss of creative") and then deny me, or grant, it should list the applicable code. Sometimes they deny under one code, and reassign it under another more appropriate one. You see this a lot with MH claims, since what may initially be diag. as depression may end up after further counseling/medication, etc be shown to be PTSD or Bipolar or something. You may try to get your ducks in a row by filing under code "X" but they may say "it is denied under code X, but granted under code Y since that is more applicable". My sciatic nerve was diag that way since I got out in 2002, right around the time they were re-writing the CFR for back injuries. I was initially diagnosed under one code, then I was increased under another related one as they moved from 'number of bedridden days' to 'range of motion'. The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound.Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book,and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching. --17 different possible sources, all lacking verifiable attribution. B.S. Doane College, Mgt Info Systems/Systems Analysis 2008 M.S.Ed. Purdue University, Instructional Development and Technology, Feb. 2021 M.S. Purdue University Information Technology/InfoSec, Dec 2022 100% P/T MDD Spine Radiculopathy Sleep Apnea Some other stuff -------------------------------------------B.S. Info Systems Mgt/Systems Analysis-Doane College 2008M.S. Instructional Technology and Design- Purdue University 2021 (I AM NOT A RATER- I work the claims BEFORE they are rated, annotating medical evidence in your records, VA and Legal documents, and DA/DD forms- basically a paralegal/vso/etc except that I also evaluate your records based on Caluza and try to justify and schedule the exams that you go to based on whether or not your records have enough in them to warrant those) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mos1833 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 thanks againin 1985 i filed a claim for a back condition.the diagnostic codes they used were 5299-5295but said it was not choronic in service,and also x-rays showed a defect in my back.now i thought there was a mandatory minimum for either ofthose codes.see what i mean ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HadIt.com Elder Chuck75 Posted March 31, 2014 HadIt.com Elder Share Posted March 31, 2014 The diagnostic codes are supposedly the key to how the claim was/is rated, and how it "fits" the rating "Schedule". As to service connection or not, the diagnostic code is just a small but important detail. A real concern is that the most appropriate code advantageous to the veteran is assigned. It's quite possible, particularly in mental health, and other medical claims, to have multiple codes that can be applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Moderator brokensoldier244th Posted March 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2014 MH can only ultimately be applied with 1 code. Multiple codes for the same condition cannot be used due to CFR and pyramidding regulations. Did you (mos1833) get an LOD on the back injury? Was it diag in servce and claimed within a year of discharge? That is also important. I was discharged for a back (trauma) injury, but I know that the longer I would have waited the less chance I would have had for SC if I didnt have an LOD for it and a MEB/PEB CAS The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound.Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book,and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching. --17 different possible sources, all lacking verifiable attribution. B.S. Doane College, Mgt Info Systems/Systems Analysis 2008 M.S.Ed. Purdue University, Instructional Development and Technology, Feb. 2021 M.S. Purdue University Information Technology/InfoSec, Dec 2022 100% P/T MDD Spine Radiculopathy Sleep Apnea Some other stuff -------------------------------------------B.S. Info Systems Mgt/Systems Analysis-Doane College 2008M.S. Instructional Technology and Design- Purdue University 2021 (I AM NOT A RATER- I work the claims BEFORE they are rated, annotating medical evidence in your records, VA and Legal documents, and DA/DD forms- basically a paralegal/vso/etc except that I also evaluate your records based on Caluza and try to justify and schedule the exams that you go to based on whether or not your records have enough in them to warrant those) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mos1833
i stole the information below from another post.
it got me thinking, if a vet is rated using a diagnostic code number.
does the fact they used a dc number make it service connectied.
in other words i was denied benefits,based on a certain diagnostic code.
whether they use the code or not, does that mean any thing.at what point
is it called in to play. i am sorry if this is confusing, thanks
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The assignment of a particular diagnostic code is "completely
dependent on the facts of a particular case." See Butts v.
Brown, 5 Vet. App. 532, 538 (1993). One diagnostic code may
be more appropriate than another based on such factors as an
individual's relevant medical history, the current diagnosis
and demonstrated symptomatology. Any change in a diagnostic
code by VA must be specifically explained. Pernorio v.
Derwinski, 2 Vet. App. 625 (1992).
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Not sure, exactly, what you are asking. If it was rated or denied under a diag code, that just means its the closest applicable code in the CFR that applies. GERD, for example, does not have a specifi
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If you are rated for it, even 0%, its service connected.
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