Josephine

Berta, I have no ideal of what they want. They keep telling me that since Dr. P. has treated me for 29 years, that even though, he is a Board Certified Internist, that he would know me better than any of their Paychiatrist. Dr. C. my treating military physician, wrote the letter for me after that horrible C&P examination. I turned this letter into the medical center with the rebuttal of the examination and also turned it into the R.O. The R.O ruled for the psychiatrist, because they were a psychiarist, not by what proof they brought to the table. The proof they brought to the table was a bunch of slanderous lies. As Dr. C has stated, what is so difficult for these doctors to understand. He wrote the statement. Reported 5 to 6 month headache, since having the measles. Caffergot not effective, Librium T. I. D. with a referral to the first psychiatrist to see if he had me on the right medication. The medication is right there in my sick bay records. It was an easy call for him, as I sent him his records to read. Dr. L ( that dumb shrink) wrote in the record, that I saw Dr. J. Military Psyciatrist for a headache, she added nothing else to the sentence. If you read his report, he states, I was referred to him by one of the medical officers, for nervousness, headaches and irratability and stated my dissatisaction with the working condition and my life in the barracks and that I wanted an early discharge, due to the following. That is a pretty weak way of saying that a doctor jerked you by the neck until you wet all over yourself and the life in the barracks was coat hanger abortions. The Commanding Officer states that I vented my mouth off to anyone that would listen, that the psychiatrist failed to listen to me or to help me. Berta, I may collect a dime in benefits, but I bet two Psychiatrist are coming down with me. I contacted the Board of Medicine for New York and they sent me the link to the Board in my state. The male Psychiatrist may not be sitting too pretty, as he teaches Psychiatry at the University hospital of my state, which you know. I have to watch out that I don't get sued for slander. My Internist has written them another letter. He has written 3 and I guess, if need more, he could write another one. How did filing for Anxiety, Depression and Headaches become an Acquired Psychiatric Disorder? Thanks, Josephine

Jstacy, This would be a job for my daughter or granddaugher, as they are both the computer expert. I have been blesssed that I met my husband in service and he was able to take advantage of the GI Bill Benefits. He has always supported this excess baggage around. Me!! I was always told that I would have to give mine up, if I took the early discharge. I will have them come up and do this. He can buy a scanner for me and they can use it. Thanks so much, Josephine

Hi Hoppy and everyone, I thought that I was entering some type of treatment as the first Va. Psychologist had mentioned to me that he thought that I should go back into treatment. It is my understanding from the AMC that they have pulled all of my records from the insurance bank and if this is true, they will see that there are two other psychiatrist that I saw for consultation, after this hypnotic C&P. I just never mentioned them, for I saw no need. I have been so busy on how I was going to prove what they did to me. You can't imagine what it is like, and I am sure that you can, to prove that two psychiatrist used some form of trance on you and gave you a C&P. I has taken me 9 months to remember that when I went back into the hospital, that the male psychiatrist was standing at the end of the hall. My husband called Dr. Bad the male psychiatrist three times in one day, being a Tuesday, but I did write and tell the AMC that he called the first Psychologist on Friday, as I was not any better. The other two had the day off and I am confident that someone has spoken to him, as they made him look like a fool. After all that has happened to me, I would be afraid to stay in the Va. hospital. I trust my Board Certified Internist. All of this crap started when I turned in those psychiatric records and the letter from the commanding officer in 2004. John, I have everything in a fire proof safety box, for fear that something will happen to my papers. I have papers back when I was discharged, which I have never seen in my administrative file. It has took me 42 years to locate my request for transfer from this station. Only by the grace of God did I locate my military treating physician, to state what he did for me and how I baby-sit for him and how I was telling the truth. To be honest with you, had it not been for the hypnosis, I am not sure to this date, if I really remembered my military doctors complete name and where his family was from. 5 days after that C&P, I sat down at the computer and typed his name in and there he was, with a privte telephone number. I had my husband to call and speak to his wife, to see if I honestly had him on the telephone. Sure enough it was him. He told me that he wrote a letter after I was thrown out of that duty station of how to file for benefits. Of course the letter did not make it past the personnel office. He was under the impression that I was drawing disability all along. Not true. $15.36 cents and orders to be out of the duty station within 24 hours. When I left that C&P, I remembered everything just like it happened yesterday. I will never forget them placing me back in that swimming pool and trying to desperatly keep from drowning from that high dive. My life has been a nightmare since then. All I ask of the BVA went I filed all of my papers, was to please take the time to read my claim and I would like for my case to finally be heard. I am 62 years of age and I have lived with this nightmare for 43 years. I filed for early social security and received my first large check of $251.00, because I could never hold down gainful empolyment. A person with an histronian personality is not going to have water running down their hands to their elbows from fear. Can't you just imagine how many times, when you wrote something on a piece of paper , just how badly that ink would smear. The lady Pshchiatrist spend 3 sheets of paper writing about my hands, and then gave me that personality. The one who wants to be the Center of Attention and then she writes how I worked nights, so no one would see my hands. I may never collect a dime of benefits, but I will bring them down, for what they did to me. Hoppy, Yes the Dr. Bad, the male psychiatrist did speak in those 3 and 4 word sentences. I can hear him saying to me." show me how you kick a wall". and I thought that was the most stupid thing to do, but I did it. " show me your valium" . I could never see him as he spoke, I could only see her, and she did not one time open her mouth. There will not be another C&P examination, only for those two to give a new opinion on the record, using rationale and sound judgement and to use only the records and new information that the remand ask for. No more changing of the records. It has to be the where my claim is open to 1978 with the VA. themselves stating in the pension, 100% disabled since 1983, due to chronic anxiety and depression. If I should win this, they would have to pay me back to their own ruling. 100% from 1983 to now and what ever they wanted to pay me from 1978 to 1983 and give me the medical discharge that I deserved. Someone set out to seek a denial after the first decision was made. That is the only reason that I can think of that this would happen. Now that the file is back with those two psychiatrist, perhaps this claim will be decided soon. I never knew that their was an organization for patient abuse? You all see now how I came up with that GAF of 40 that day. I didn't have sense of a bedbug! Thanks to all, Josephine

John 999 Yes, I have a copy of the C&P examination and I also kept the paper sent to me by the medical center for my treatment appointment. I sent all of this mess into the BVA for a complete investigation. My file is right on the desk of the male psychiatrist for him and the lady shrink to explain all of this to the BVA and to give an opinion of me with sound principles and complete ratinale. No more slander and lies and I was told their is a some legalities involved and code of ethics. Thanks, Josephine

Jstacy, Why was the psychiatrist sitting right beside of me insisting upon having it? I may die trying, but I am going to get to the bottom of all this mess. Yes, the Va. has been Evil to me, but they can't do anymore damage than they have already done. The two Psychiatrist are in the hot seat now, not me, as the BVA is breathing down their neck. They won't to know why all of these strange things happened. Thanks, josephine

Vike, If by chance, you should read this. I have what may appear a dumb question to you. Why did I receive a Statement of the Case stating this is not the DRO's final decision, with a form 9 to fill out within 60 days and have a note stating that you are going for a C&P examination. I filed out the form 9. My file went no where. I went for the first C&P and was given a more likely than not decision. File was immediately transferred to another state to susposedly rate. No true. 5 months later, I was send for a clinic appointment for treatment, which turned out to be a board of two psychiatrist. One year later I received a denial of benefits, as the Service Manager stated, they placed their weight with the psychiatrist, since they were psychiatrist, even though one refused to sign the examination, making this an in complete exam. Who had jurisidiction of my claim once I filled out the form 9 and it was turned in to the BVa? Thanks, Joephine

John999, If you read my reply to the Financial Statement, you will get a better ideal of what is going on. I never dreamed that I could get involved in a mess like this. It is all true. This is the flow of my Va. Claim: Filed in 1978 - No service connection, by counselor. The Va has in my pension that they sent me a letter in 1992, denying me benefits. The BVA and I have a copy of such filing. I filed again in 2002 - Denied no Service connection 2003 With this decision I was awarded a NSC Pension, stating that you have not been employable since 1983, due to chronic anxiety and depression and high blood pressure. Denied due to excessive income. Even with my chronic vertigo and balance problem, I made it down to the Va. Office, and demanded to see my claims file. What a fuss!!! I did get to see it and I ask, " Where are my Compentency Review Records, The counselor said there aren't any! I said, well those Military Psychiatrist sure didn't think much of me. I came home and wrote a letter to the St. Louis Archives and they mailed me all of my Psychiatric Records and a letter from the Commanding Officer as to the reason for my discharge. This had never been seen by the Va. I turned them in with a NOD of the decision of 2003. Within 3 months, I received all in one envelope. A Statement of the Case - stating it appears that you may have a personality disorder, but this is not the DRO final decision. You will be having a C&P for an Acquired Chronic Psychaitric Disorder. I also received a form 9 to have in within 60 days. I called and called the Counselors as to what to do with the form 9, they said fill it out and turn it in. I turned in the form 9 in November of 2004. October the 19th, I went for the C&P, which the Psychologist spend every bit of a hour reviewing my claim. As the R.O ask him to evaluate me from 1978 to date. He stated too many years have gone by. I ask him, " do you not have my medical records from 1965 to 1978 and he said no. He ask me if I had them. I said yes, but so does the Va. as I saw them in my file. This dear man spend at least 45 minutes until he located all the hidden medical records within my file. Diagnosis Generalized Anxiety Disorder not other wise specifiec with depression. More likely than not that my anxiety began in service. On November 30th, my claims file was transferred to another state for rating and this is where the trance board of two comes in at, 5 months after the first examination. The rest is in the other financial statement question. Now my claims file is with the two Psychiatrist to reconcile their difference and come up with a reason for all that has happpened. I know that any form of trance or hypnosis is not legal within the Va, but it sure happened to me. I have a letter from the nurse that saw me afterwards and she said that the male psychaitrist is the best for hypnosis in the state. John, If I had a scanner, I woud be happy to let the whole world read this dumb C&P by those two and my military and private records to compare the two. John, I think these strange things are happening because of the psyciatric records being located in 2002 and by me. Thanks, Josephine

John999, Thanks so much. Yes, I had or perhaps I have a NSC Disability, but was denied due to excessive. I was denied in 2003 for Service Connection and awarded that Pension, but was denied due to excessive. I will never be able to claim it , for my husbands Social Security would be too much also. John, I know it makes little sense to some, but I know that you are trying to have your discharge code changed. I appreciate your understanding me. I am determined to crack this case wide open. No, they didn't pay me anything for mileage. I received the first C&P exam which was more likely than not with no signs of a personlity disorder, but the psychologist did recommend me go back into counseling. I received a letter from my local Medical Center to remind me of my clinic appointment. I called the R.O and was told that they were sending me down for an evaluation of the type of treatment that I needed. When I arrived at 8:00, the receptionist did not even have me on her schedule of appointments. I showed her the appointment reminder and she said that she would beep someone. Dr. L, the lady psychiatrist, came and told the receptionist that they needed to get a financial statement on me for my treatment. She sit right beside me while they filled one out, but definitely did not turn this into my private insurance co. The receptionist told me to have a seat and a few minutes, Dr. L came for me and my husband ask to go back with me. She said, " absolutely no'. When I got to the room there was the Male Psychiatrist waiting for us and I received a C&P that day, and it was definitely under some type of trance. Completely full of lies. The BVA has sent that examination back to the two for a rationale of their opinion that nothing bothered me in service and to use only the medical, military and private and give a new opinion. I knew that with my first C&P, there was no financial statement filled out. I have not been to the Va. Medical facility for treatment and never plan to. I have always had my own private insurance. I am a pack rat and keep everything, so I sent all of this to the BVA. Thanks, Josephine

I am sorry to be such a nuisance. Has anyone out there filled out a Financial Statement with the Va. upon arrival for a C&P Examination? This would not be for treatment, just a plain old simple C&P at the Va. Medical Center? Thanks, Josephine

Berta, No need for an appology. I know that my claims file is down on the desk of the psychiatrist, the male that refused to sign it. The BVA is doing a full investigation of this C&P. The male is the only one in the room that did any talking and we were sitting to where I could only see her. She was sitting to my opposite corner and he was sitting to the far left side. Anytime that I wanted to see him, I had to turn around in the seat. His voice always came from where I could never see it. The trance or hypnosis is a violation of the C&P. He certainly would never say that he did it, but I feel that I have given the BVA enough proof to prove this point. Actually, what I do remember of the examination is not even written in the examination. This is the way he did things. He always spoke in 3 or 4 words. He would say" Tell me about the pool"? " Tell me about Doris"? "What about your dad"? I can see myself saying to both of them. " You may think that I don't know who you are, but you are doctors for the Veterans Administration". I still don't know what they said to me, for me to say this. When I left the office and ran back into the center to see the nurse, I was sure that I had had a stroke. My daughters and my husband all three say the same things about me that day. They say I kept repeating" I will never have another C&P exam, for the money is not worth it". I do not remember saying any of this. They say this went on until the next morning. My husband was frightened and called the make Psychaitrist 3 times that day and he said, I would start remembering what he looked like in about 3 days. That lady psychiatrist never spoke a word in that room. All I was asking, now that the claim is back with them for a new opinion, per the remand, to give a new opinion with complete rationale and to follow the records only, is it in my best interest to be present when they review the complete records. All of the records even down to the insurance bank. Thanks Berta, I sure hope that I didn't hurt your feelings. I realize that this one is a hard one to prove, as my psychiatric records only surfaced 2 years ago, with my getting them from the archives. Before that each filing was not service connected. This all started in 1978 and the BVA wants to know " What was the real reason for my early discharge"? Thanks, Josephne

Berta, Let's assume that my nerves, just got the best of me. I had the session, with no recollection, of what went on in the room, to the extent that I had to see the staff nurse, as I couldn't even remember the examination. Three phone calls placed to the male doctor, who said that I would remember what he looked like in about 3 days. Telephone call placed the next day from the nurse to see if I was feeling any better. When I entered the room, as they would not allow my husband to be present. Why? What harm could her do? I noticed the strangest seating arrangement. It certainly wasn't a conference table and the lady shrink did not open her mouth not one time during the complete session. I spend 3 days trying to fiqure out what was said and done in that room. Some things I remember and some things are like a dream. Any reason, why she chose not to speak? We can assume again that it was not hypnosis. Why did the male doctor refuse to sign the C&P and why did she attack my character. Why did she change all of my military and private medical records? Why would she wish to do this? If you were with your husband for his hypnotic sessions, did they use the old watch and lay him on a bed routine? Thanks, Josephine

Hi, As most of you know that my claims file has left the AMC to go back to the two psychiatrist, who did the hynpnotic and slanderous lies in the last C&P. I called the medical center and my claims file is there for the new opinion? Am I allowed to be present during this review? What assurance, if any, do I have that they will not turn around and write a slanderous lying opinion? Trully the C&P is full of lies. Ones that I can prove. If the the BVA didn't believe me, I don't think that they would be sending it back to them for a new opinion. The AMC stated this morning, that they use the last physical to make their decision as to service connection??? I called my rep this morning and he didn't even know who I was. Stated that he represents 6 organizations.' Can you change Reps this late in the game? This guy surely has no clue as to what my claim is about. He just said, we would have to wait until the opinion comes through and if it is the same. He would receive another remand to fill out a form 646. What in the heck is he talking about? If two psychiatrist were reviewing your claims file, as remanded by the BVa, would you trust the two psychiatrist to do any thing any better than previoulsy. I would like to be present, as it has been approximately 18 months since that C&P was done, definitely under hypnosis. I should have some say in this. Does the Veteran stay in the dark through - out the complete process? My form 9 was turned in to the BVA by the Virginia office November 2004, before I had my first C&P and then transferred when the first C&P came in for rating. Who has jurisdiction over your claim once you fill out a form 9. After I filled out my form 9, I had two C&P's and it was two years later, before the DRO finally made a decision to deny me. Thanks again, Josephine

Boondoc, Hynosis is illegal when used for a C&P. My claim is so stupid anymore it is pathetic. The Va. sends me a notice of my treatment appointment. I arrive at the medical center. They refuse to allow my husband back there and do there little hypnosis thing. I have written a 15 page letter to the BVA of these dirty dealings. I went so far as to send them a drawing of the room. What they wrote in the C&P are a bunch of slanderous lies. They took my military and private medical records and changed all the wording of all of my records to make me what they wanted me to be. I am so happy that I didn't throw away that innocent little Notice of my Clinic appointment, as it shows how they planned to disqualify me. I would never advice anyone to enter a room with two psychiatrist. unless you have someone with you. You are fair game, unless you can prove that your rights were violated. Now, the C&P is back with the two psychiatrist to explain why the hypnosis and review my record and make a new opinion, based on medical facts only with complete rationale for the decision. No more of their hog wash! The BVA is representing me against them. They both are sitting there, as their license is at issue and so it their positions at the hospital. Hypnosis is only allowed, if you sign a form and never allowed for a C&P. They can plant ideals in your head and tell you what to say. If you ever for before a Board, don't walk in their alone. Jospehine

I am pleased to state that the two psychiatrist that did my last c&P which was full of slanderous lies. are sitting on the hot seat this very moment. They will now address the issues as to why I went for the c&P examination and why I was sent a letter of my reminder for my treatment appointment, which turned out to be a c&p under hypnosis. The BVa wants a complete rationale as to how they came up with their decision and they want a new opinon. They have 30 days to complete this and to turn this back into the AMC. If the examiner did not do a complete and through examination, report it in writing to the medical center and to the R.O Request a new C&P, and if you don't get it as I didn't. Appeal and go over their heads. Now the two of them have their license and the code of ethics of the medical center to deal with also. Sometimes persistence pays off. Josephine

How was your thyroid cancer detected ? They usually cannot be 100% sure that it is cancerous until they operate. I have had the Cancer PET test and the glucose tracer did go to my right thyroid and ascending colon. I had the colonoscopy last wednesday and the the 7 polyps removed and the pathology report came back benigh. Absolutely no Cancer. I have had a serious of test, one kind of delaying the other one, but have had the ultrasound on my right thyroid and all appears alright, but I do go the end of the month for the nuclear medicine uptake test for the thyroid. Did you have the needle biopsy? Did this confirm cancer? I have had a right side goiter for 16 years and have been taking synthroid for it. I will have to wait for more conclusive test to see if this side is still funtioning at all. It is my understanding to determine, now after all these test, that the only way to know for sure if it is indeed cancer is with the surgery. I am going to have to surgery to remove the right lobe, regardless of all the test. Just wanted you to know that the PET glucose tracer is not always correct and you may be worrying about only a simple 30 minute surgery. My niece had the lobe removed and felt no pain afterwards and I expect the same. You will definitely be placed on Synthyroid. I have been off my medication since August 15, and I have not noticed any change in my being. Wishing you well. Always, josephine

I am sitting here laughing with you and not at you. I needed that one!! You made my day! I will quit filling sorry for myself for a few minutes and go make me some coffee. Always, Josephine

Hi Wings, I was discharged in 1964 and at that time, I was told by Lt. K that if I took the early discharge, I would be a disgrace and would be giving up all of my G. I Benefits. I told them to take them, for I was not staying in that place. Yes, I turned in a buddy letter, of a girl from Georgia, just happen to locate her, she was with me at boot camp, corps school and at this duty station, She has written a letter to the Va. of what boot camp was like for me and my attempts to pass their old swimming classes and also about Doris. She told them that she was aware of my medication that I was taking in D. C. and how the doctors treated me. When I was ordered never back into the one department by a cussing doctor, just because I was passing out during a procedure, she was the one to relieve me. In fact she took an overdose of my meds and was taken by the M. P's to the dispensary. The lady Psychiatrist stated" she would have to discount her letter, because she didn't tell of my personality". I have a letter by a friend that I have known since I was about 9, she is a retired school teacher, she wrote a letter to the Va. of our being in the girl scouts together and how my life was before service, carefree and fancy free and my being as normal as she was. I played the piano for our church and how she loved to sing in the choir. How she always wanted to teach the small child to be the most that they could be and that my dream was to be a nurse, but my dream never came true. I would have to say she would have been about the first to see me after my discharge. She talks about how she is not a qualified physician, but that she is qualified to tell the Va. that something happened to me in service, because of all the head ache pills and nerve pills, which I had never taken or needed before. As for the lady psychaitrist giving me an Historian personality, she is crazy, she spends 3 pages talking about my sweaty hands and my having a disheaveled look and then gives me the personality of - Always having to be the center of attention, man chasing, drug addict, anoxeia, and what ever sounded good at the time. I have three letters by my pastor that knew me for 7 years before service and counseled me afterwards. The BVA has ask him if he kept written papers. His answer was no, then he wouldn't have been my pastor. I turned in my letter from my treating physician at this duty station, as a buddy letter, as he was there present during all of this mess. The stangest thing to me to this date is: I get a telephone call from the R. O in West Va. that they are sending me down for the treatments, as the first doctor, who did the first C&P recommended. I get a reminder from the medical center of the date of my first treatment appointment. My husband drives me almost 150 miles to be there at 8:00. This first treatment is a C&P under Hypnosis, and they absolutely will not allow him to go back with me. I was so sick afterwards that the nurse on duty had to check me out, for I couldn't remember a thing . There is a loose screw some where, and I am determined to find it, unless it is just in my head. Thanks, Josephine

John, Believe me, I have heard every darn excuse in the book to not grant benefits. I know that myself, I may end up at the Court of Appeals. This is one crazy mess and I know, first hand, that the Va. does not read the records. Josephine

Berta, Please try to walk me through this one. I have printed out your reply. This claim of mine has been the largest cover - up since WaterGate. This seems to me a key reason they denied: The BVA and The AMC state they denied me because, the C&P by the Board of Two Psychiatrist was not a complete examination, as the male Psychiatrist would not sign the examination. They told me that they want to know the Why's he refused to sign the examination. Was it the Hypnosis, Was it her slanderous accusations of me with no medical records to support what she said. The BVA wants to know why the R.O did not send this examination back to the Board or Two to iron out their differences or to order me a new C&P. The BVA wants to know what in the heck am I doing there? I am there, because I received a Statement of the Case in October of 2004, enclosed the DRO wrote appears that you may have a personality disorder. I am sending you a form 9 to appeal this decision, although my this is not my final decision, as I am sending you for a C&P examination. Due to the 60 days time line. I filled out the form 9, but my claim stayed with in the R.O for another two years. I went for the first C&P in October of 2004 with a More likely than Not. My claims file was immediately transferred to another R. O . This R. O was to rate my claim. They chose to send me to the Board of Two Psychiatrist. She states what I consider indicative of abuse she doesn't. Nothing bothered her in service. The BVA wants to know " What is the reason for her early discharge from service". Was I a behavior problem with article 15's. Was it a medical reason, as they know that I was taking Librium and Caffergot. What was the real reason that I received an unsuitable discharge? My service records state that I placed an order for a transfer out of the area in January. I have this long lost document. February - Dr. C. places into my sick bay records. " Vascular verus Tension Headaches" Caffergot not effective. Librium t.I.d. February- Dr C places in to my records counseling. March - Dr. J. Military Pshchiartist states that I was referred to him by the medical officers with the symtoms of nervousness, headaches and irrability. My complaint was dis- sastifed with the working conditions and living in the barracks. He states that he feels that if there were to be a change of working conditons, I could service my time. March - Dr. M Board Certified Psychiartrist states symtoms are the same. States that she has been dis-satisfied with service since boot camp. He wouldn't write down about the swimming pool. Recommends and early discharge. April - Letter from commanding Officer, discharged due to unsuitability. She saw Dr. J and we felt that she could remain in service, but after she saw him, she vented her mouth off to anyone that would listen to her that she felt that the psychaitrist would not help her or listen to her. She feels that her values have been deficatd due to crude and foul mouth people. She was not able to do the most menial task. She is of no further use to service. Now, the 64, 000 question. I vented my mouth off to anyone who would listen, that Dr. J refused to write down the incidents of a doctor jerking me by the neck until I wet all over my self. Being cussed out by the other doctors at the station. Dr. C. took me home with him on Friday evenings to baby-sit for him and his wife, to watch their two children and spend the night at their home. His letters states that he added a tranquisher to my headache medicine for anxiety, that I baby- sit for him and his wife and the station was a close knit bunch, and he would have been made aware had I been any behavior problem. He assisted me with my early discharge and referred me to the psychiatrist for caring and sensitivity. I was a very suitable person, or they certainly would have not allowed me into their home to watch their children. I was credible and please award me my benefits. I never took a pill in my life before joining service for headaches for my nerves. Dr. C gave me RX at his home that are not on records. I have been on medication from 1967 to date. My doctor states service was the origin of my problem. The first Va. doctor states more than likely and that he isn't telling the VA. anything that they don't already know, as it is down in black and white. What happend to the aspiring pianist in one year to make the lady psychiatrist write down , when she was discharged from service she took a night job in a hospital as she never wanted anyone to see her sweating hands. She goes on an on about my hands. from a three month job here to a three month job there, until she finally was desperate and saw a surgeon to cut my hands? Her hands followed her everyone she went! She had to finally quit trying employment in 1983, due to the stress and fear of her hands. What happend in one year to cause this? This is what Pastor B is saying. " Where did she go and what in the world did they do to destroy her? I know that my discharge came in and they gave me 24 hours to leave the base with the large total of $15.35 cents. This was to take me from D.C. To Ky. That was the Total amount, not per mile. It is all in black and white in my records. Thanks, Joephine

I promise to let this claim rest soon. I called the medical center today and my file has been with the male psychiatrist that refused to sign the C&P of April 2005. He has been asked by the AMC, for a complete rationale of the decision rendered by him and the lady psychiatrist. The lady shrink authored the C&P with a decision, " nothing bothered her in service. " I am so nervous to know that he is making a decision and I am not allowed to speak to him or be ask any questions. If he didn't agree and wouldn't sign the original C&P , there has to be a reason why? Since that C&P: Letter from my Military treating doctor, of 40 years back. ( to state that he did indeed gave me prescriptions for librium for anxiety and caffergot for headaches and began my psychiatric consulations for my early discharge). This is already in my sick bay records with his signature on the meds. Letter from my Board Certified Internist , stating that the lady shrink was patently incorrect in her facts of me. He has been my doctor for 29 years and would actually know me much better than their one hour visit. He has the expertise, to state if he has ever treated me for an eating disorder, self inflicted injuries, and that I take my medication as prescribed and that I am not a drug addict. Letter from husband, two daughters to dispute the lady shrinks slander of me, concerning beating husband and tearing up our home and destroying out home through - out our marraige of 42 years. She states this has been a pattern for me. Letter from my pastor, ( who has known me since I was 13 and played the piano for the church and counseled me after service), He knew me years before service and after service and the changes in me. A letter from a friend that has known me since I was 13 to state that I never appeared nervous before joining service and took no medication to her knowledge, and only after service did I start tranquilishers. She was also with me when I lost the 2nd baby. He will also have the first C&P done 5 months before with a more likely than not. by the Va Psychologist, which was not included in my claims file by the R.O, for this examination. I have a copy of my medications taking my CVS to look at and see that I take my medications as prescribed. I have a letter of explanation of " Doris", the last time that I saw her, she was lying on the right side of the pool, not breathing, I was told to leave immedicately. I never saw her again. I have the rebuttal to the examination that his partner, Dr L authored and pointed out in my military and private records, that she is using them to give me the historian personality, to which I don't have. I am not saying that over the years, that I may not have some type of personlity problem, but not the Historian one! He has all of my medical records from 1965 to date. I began Librium for Anxiety in 1964 and pick up again in 1967, as I was pregnant in the years of 1965 and daughter was born in 1966. He does have a record of over dose in 1965. I can't meet with him or have any conversations with him. Do I have everything in my claims file. Have I left anything out? Thanks, Josephine

John, I only see two normal readings the first one and the second one and after that the diastolic is sky high. Who do they think they are kidding? I wouldn't think that you would need to pay for an IMO for something so obvious. Any private doctor can see this one! They will have to give you your retro- pay on this one, but it isn't fair, how the Va is doing everyone! Josephine

larry, Thanks for putting up with this worry wart. I am so sick and tired of the Veterans trying to say that black is white, when we both can see that it is black. I don't believe that there is much more that I can add to the same old story that I have been telling them for years. My niece is a DRO, where my claims file was. When she signed off, my file was transferred to another state. Of course, I received the form 9 with a statement of the case, before I received my first C&P. When the first Va. Doctor ruled More likely than not, out the door, they sent me. 5 months later, I meet with those two shrinks. She was a quack and a half. Had I been crazy, I wouldn't have known that! The BVA and The AMC has been telling all along that my file was going back to the two shrinks to come to some agreement on my claim. Who knows. that may have been just been a lie to appease me at the time. I guess that I will have to do as Berta says, Take that darn stupid test, if that is what they want. This problem is all about when I filed in 1978, the Va did not secure my psychiatric records. I filed again in 2002 and the same thing happpened. This time in 2003, they give me a pension rating me disabled back to 1983, but denied due to excessive income from my husband. In 2004, I wrote to the St. Louis Archives and secured all the psychiatric records, that they never bothered to get. My claim is open back to 1978 and the Va. has declared me 100% disabled back to 1983. If I win this case, then they have to pay me at least 100% back to 1983, as I turned in new and material evidence, never seen by the Va before. I also located a letter from my commanding Officer as to why my early discharge. The lady shrink said that I did not ask Dr. C. my treating doctor in service, to assist me with an early discharge due to my nerves. So, she ruled nothing bothered me in service. I located Dr. C and sent him all of his military records and he wrote a 2 page letter to the Va. of how he treated me with Librium for anxiety and Caffergot for headaches, which is in my sick bay records anyway, and how he arranged my psychiatric counsulations. I baby - sit for him and his wife at that duty station, so he had no problem remembering me after 40 years. The lady shrink tried to say that the C.O ordered those Consulations with the two Psychiatrist that I saw in the military. because of a behavior problem with article 15's. Not true, I don't have any. Dr. C. ordered those. The two Shrinks did not count on me locating Dr. C. Now they are working on how to get rid of me next. It isn't going to work, for I am going no where, except for another C&P if requested. I am a code 6, due to my niece being a Supervisor of the DRO's, so only Pearl can open my claim. I wish you well on getting that needed letter from the Olka Rehab, and get your case moving through the system. Always, Josephine

Larry, I sent a letter to the BVA to waiver all rights of the R.O having anything to do with my claim. They cannot touch it. The BVA is to handle my claim only. The Board of two Psychiatrist were to reconcile their differences, as to why one would not sign the C&P and give a rationle as to the decision that they made. When I went into this appeals I was given one C&P and was given a More Likely than Not. Within 5 months the R.O sent me to this dumb board of two Psychiastrist who ruled, nothing bothered me in service. It was my understanding, since the lady psychiatrist changed all of my military and private medical records to sound good, the BVA wanted an explanation of why? I understood the Remand to state that the claims file was to go back to them if they were available and they are. This was the next step in the remand 7. After the above development has been completed, the veteran's claims file should returned to the board of VA psychiatrists who participated in the April 2005 examination for clarification of the provided opinion. They should be requested to review the record and reconcile their opinion as to etiology in light of the evidence added since their examination of the veteran, including the May 2005 statement of Dr. B C. C and the January 2006 statement of Dr. M P. Yes, the AMC does set up the appointments for you at your local Medical Center. Thanks Josephine

Why doesn't the AMC have to follow the guidelines of the Remand by the BVA? Remand 7. After the above development has been completed, the veteran's claims file should returned to the board of VA psychiatrists who participated in the April 2005 examination for clarification of the provided opinion. They should be requested to review the record and reconcile their opinion as to etiology in light of the evidence added since their examination of the veteran, including the May 2005 statement of Dr. B C. C and the January 2006 statement of Dr. M P. If neither of these examiners is available, ( They are both employed by the Medical Center and are free to do this, as I checked with the medical center). the RO should consider whether the veteran should be scheduled for an additional examination by a board of two VA psychiatrists for an opinion as to whether there is at least a 50 percent probability or greater that an acquired psychiatric disorder was incurred in or aggravated by active service. All indicated tests and studies are to be performed. Prior to the examination, the claims folder must be made available for review of the case. A notation to the effect that this record review took place should be included in the report. Opinions should be provided based on the results of examination, a review of the medical evidence of record, and sound medical principles. All examination findings, along with the complete rationale for all opinions expressed, should be set forth in the examination report. Why is the R.O involved with my claim, since it is at the BVA? This is the letter that I received from the AMC October 6, 2006 Dear---- We are writing in connection with the claim that was remanded by the Board of Veterans Appeals on April 10, 2006, however we need additional information or evidence. WHAT WE HAVE DONE? We asked the VA medical facility who conducted your April 2005 examination to review and make a new medical opinion in your appeal. They may contact you to report for a new exam. This exam is very important. If they ask you to report and you fail to attend the exam, we may have to deny your claim, or you might be paid less than you otherwise would. If you can't report for the examination as scheduled, contact the medical facility and arrange a more convenient place or time. HOW CAN YOU CONTACT US This letter will give you the phone number to call. Why doesn't the AMC have to follow this remand? I called the Medical Center and they are both still employed and are free to do this. Thanks, Josephine

I am not concerned about their dumb test. I want to know why the AMC does not have to follow the remand as it is stated. Both doctors who particpated in the Examination are sitting on their ___ down at the Medical Center. I have already checked this one out. Here is the remand: 7. After the above development has been completed, the veteran's claims file should returned to the board of VA psychiatrists who participated in the April 2005 examination for clarification of the provided opinion. They should be requested to review the record and reconcile their opinion as to etiology in light of the evidence added since their examination of the veteran, including the May 2005 statement of Dr. B C. C and the January 2006 statement of Dr. M P. If neither of these examiners is available, the RO should consider whether the veteran should be scheduled for an additional examination by a board of two VA psychiatrists for an opinion as to whether there is at least a 50 percent probability or greater that an acquired psychiatric disorder was incurred in or aggravated by active service. All indicated tests and studies are to be performed. Prior to the examination, the claims folder must be made available for review of the case. A notation to the effect that this record review took place should be included in the report. Opinions should be provided based on the results of examination, a review of the medical evidence of record, and sound medical principles. All examination findings, along with the complete rationale for all opinions expressed, should be set forth in the examination report. Now, why doesn't the AMC have to follow this remand? I am faxing a letter to my representative tomorrow,as those two doctors need to clean up their mess. Josephine