Victor Ray

Yes, you are right. I meant “file a claim on duty” to begin disability the day after discharge, “not sue the Army”. It was all planned and controlled and it’s worked. It is now at my life’s end, and they have “skated from all responsibilities since June 1971 to March 2015 without it casting them a cent, but cost me everything.” 44/45 years at ZERO, and the last three at partial disability. Then any retro is paid at the old rates, further screwing you, which is totally immoral, but doesn’t make one bit of difference to the VA. You know that yourself. SUICIDE IS A BETTER OPTION FOR MANY, and I totally get it. It’s hard for the victims of military abuse of power to deal with, as much or more than rape IMO. They can’t handle the knowledge they found. They finally see the truth and it’s too much. Yes, I did want 100% benefits with 100% retro pay as a minimum, but I want my kids paid for every dime and every benefit they were screwed out of growing up not the 1972 rate. I’m dead and I know it. I will never see any of this, but there are people that will, that have POA TO OVERSEE this out. I didn’t want anything other than fair honest treatment, as I told (her), but I see that’s not going to happen. I’m tired of trying to get honestly out of the VA. They know who deserves what, down to the sent. They know everything including the brain damage and the causes for everything else vr

Solo. That shows there is every reason and every motive for the VA to fight against all the presumptive conditions it can for as long as it can. The government should not be policing itself. We don’t let prisoners run the cell blocks, or do we? Spoliation of evidence is a big NO-NO. I received a ram-rod Medical Board (it was a medical board or sorts I presume), and if I had known their was going to be any boards, what the board was for, when it was going to be, what they were looking for, if it was punitive or medical, if I needed anything to prepare, if there was options available, if I was entitled to any discovery, any legal assistance (a PEBLO), records to review as what was being said about my conditions. I did not know anything, just like the Army had planned. 47 years of retro pay would be pennies on the dollar, and another slap in the face. I did nothing to receive such treatment. I ingested Agent Orange daily, was eaten alive by drug resistant plasmodium falciparum carrying mosquitos (a Tropical Disease), and received a big injection in the rear of an unknown chemical that’s never mentioned. That’s three reasons I may have developed a need for hospitalization. Two of those are bad, no doubt. The injection may have been the worse. I know how it works. You can’t decide the VA owes you for back benefits when you didn’t even complain in service or ever have an issue and now 47 years later you start having chest pains so you go down and file for heart disease after being diagnosed, and expect benefits retroactive. I get it, but what we have here is a failure to communicate. I developed many conditions in Vietnam, a place I would not normally visit. I became ill with permanent limitations to everything in my being (look up P-3 profile physical capacity and stamina). I complained in 1971. I was sent “ HOME AWAITING ORDERS “, and there is only one reason the military uses that term, as opposed to furlowe, recovery time, leave of absence, vacation, and it because the service member is going to be separated from military service period. Medical retirement if 30% disabled or more and over six months active duty, with permanent disabilities. I was all that and it got worse. There’s a regulation that talks aboutgoing back to the day following the Evacuation. The Army avoids that by hiding the evidence, telling you it’s lost, destroyed, burned up in a fire(s), etc. 47 years of retro pay would be nice, but reimbursements for all benefits lost and all costs associated would be nicer. If the pain and suffering was experienced by the DRO’s they would give all that 10 times over and be happy to do it. vr

Solo. We are talking about two different conditions here and getting them confused. While I was in Vietnam on active duty, I broke out with acne, urinated blood, liver out of whack, irrational heart rates, respiratory issues, endocrine issues, blood coagulation problems, back problems, bone problems, abdominal problems, migraines (stroke), prostate problems, Rheumatic Fever, undetermined organisms in lungs in lungs and blood, swollen lower extremities upper extremities, ALL WHILE ON DUTY. I am not just now claiming these things. I was hospitalized for them in another country while serving, and more conditions developed as a result of exposure to unknown. It was known in 1971 that I was ill due to service in Vietnam, and I was still on duty, but not given any records. I was seen in the service for what are now presumptive conditions. I was directly service connected with disabilities, regardless whether Agent Orange exists now or ever did. I am not necessarily presumptive, but completely directly service connected. The presumptive connection is a back up for those in doubt with ZERO evidence of illness, injury, or disease, while serving in the military. I don’t need the presumptive law to prove direct in service disabilities, do I, if I have in service evidence??? There is no fake evidence used here and that is the lamest argument the VA could possibly use. They did have doubt of a few documents, but I was the one complaining about them. They complained after I had to point them out. They all were all in the VA’s favor having no form numbers, no signatures, no dates. I pointed the defects out to the VA and they agreed, but they are the one that sent them to me. They verified the alteration of their own evidence they were using. It’s s been a dirty job, and makes VA employees turn whistle blowers, because there are good people working there. The more numb they become to the truth, the higher up the money tree they can climb. Do you see the difference in my case and a Vietnam Vet just now having problems and using presumptive law? The Army treated me in Vietnam and all the time after Vietnam til Discharged for Permanent conditions regardless of Agent Orange being destructive or deadly. I ingested something that was deadly, no matter what it was, and it ruined me while on duty. Does it make more sense? PS. I want to correct something I said last night because I was tired not thinking right. I was talking about filing a claim for disability while still on duty, butvwas using the term “suing” while on active duty. Active duty can not sue as far as I know either, but they can file a claim, “ if they have evidence”! If you have no evidence of it happening in service, you are screwed. The Army made sure I was screwed, then the VA made sure I’d it. I’m glad they didn’t put a hit on me, but now I don’t care. I wish they would to prove it all being true. Victor ray

Yep, that settlement was before Nehmer, before the presumptives. The scientific evidence and the medical records from Vietnam are the ones I got from NARA. I got a few from NPRC, and some from the VA. I would have filed for disability while on duty, and you could do that, but the Army would not give me the records. They said they were lost, but they weren’t. They never were. YES, they can do anything they want to do. They can go back 80 years for the veteran, and at least legal age for children, and longer depending on the child’s disability. The VA is the most powerful agency in the world. there is only a couple reasons I didn’t get disability the day after discharge. The Army, the DoD, and the VA. All withholding the evidence. That’s it. I lost a hell of a lot more than 47 years of disability. I paid for the insurance premiums, the medicine, the out of pocket cost for deductibles, medicine, hospitals, doctors, and you know what? I nearly died several times from presumptive conditions, not to mention brain damage, strokes, GAS with Streptococcal Pharyngitis, and Tropical diseases, and much of it I have records for. They have the rest and they are sitting on it. It’s up to the VA, but they were in the wrong, and I expect they will have me dead first. I would bet on it, but I need good help, not cowards or sell outs.. vr

I am not active duty. It doesn’t matter what I want because the VA never had any intention on granting anything at all. They have sat on my records for almost 50 (FIFTY) years, they told me they were lost, they ignored 20 FOIA Requests, blamed my conditions on syphilis but their own tests showed negative every time. They did not do anything to help my Respiratory infections or Group A Streptococcus with Pharyngitis which is Rheumatic Fever and when you have that, the URI, the GAS with Pharyngitis, and prostatitis when covered with mosquito bites, pain behind the eyes with parasites in them, you can almost bet it’s malaria, especially when the urine is bloody and the liver is out of whack, diarrhea, blood dots are all over. When you’re broke out in acne around the eyes and temples, and blistered hands with rashes all over, swollen legs ankles and arms, and inflammation with thick large wheals on your trunk, back, chest, with bone pain, leg pain, abdominal pain and cramping, it’s not Atopic Dermatitis. It may have been Agent Orange. They don’t evacuate you for dry skin, and Chloroquine wasn’t the only anti malaria drug they had, and I wasn’t allergic to it either. No, back benefits? What’s that? You mean $400 a month for 1971, $425 a month for 1972, $475 a month for 1973 and so on? That’s what they want isn’t it. Pennies on the dollar. I never got any records to sue with or even file a claim. There was a surprise board held in Alabama in July 1971, and I figured out it was a medical board when it was over. I didn’t know it was going to take place, or what I needed to do, or anything at all. Totally in the dark, and had no notice, no idea that there were any options, had no records to look at, didn’t know if it was a court marshal or a medical board, but it didn’t matter because I was uninformed and didn’t get any legal assistance or advise, and I was ill, and didn’t understand what they wanted, or what I could do about it. Turns out it was already decided what I would do. Plans were already in place and the “HOME AWAITING ORDERS “ was done and I DID NOT EVER STABILIZE. I deteriorated continuously, and all the regulations were worthless and still are in my opinion. STATUE OF LIMITATIONS? What the hell is that? When was that created? Probably in June 1971 when the Army started the one year clock, or when they gave me the benefit of doubt and allowed it not to start until April 21, 1972 when I had my first civilian day. Well I requested my records and the Army’s response was the records were lost. The VA had them in 1983 as the BVA correctly stated, but withheld them from me. According to the BVA “”THE EVIDENCE CONSIDERED AT THE TIME OF THE JUNE 1983 RATING DECISION CONSISTED OF THE VETERAN’S SERVICE TREATMENT RECORDS, AN APRIL 1983 DERMATOLOGIST’S LETTER, A VA AGENT ORANGE EXAMINATION REPORT, AND THE VETERAN’S LAY STATEMENTS. The VA established that it did have my service treatment records “in hand at that time”, yet my request for a copy was unanswered, and we both have the request. Yes, I just wanted service connection at the time and any compensation due, but the fee based dermatologist withheld information concerning my lung condition or the VA altered the report or both. Nothing is beyond belief. My requests in 2012 got no medical records, and the other 15 or 20 didn’t either. In 2015 I did finally receive some treatment records from the 21 days I was hospitalized in country on Vietnam soil, yet I need someone that saw me in the hospital, ill, while the other 2 to 3 million do not. Why is that? Why is a buddy statement considered more affirmative than the Commander of the entire medical facility’s Testimony? The largest of all our overseas medical facilities! This is the kind of stuff that makes every veteran question every word the VA prints, posts, advertises, or states in any form of media. WTH is wrong here? I have been lied to, deceived, manipulated in about every conceivable way, and run around for 50 years (for figuring purposes like the % awarded). In a few more it will be over 50, so we can round it up to 100 years, right? If nothing else, it will show what I just said about the runaround. How can the VA refuse “any medical treatment to any veteran with a condition that’s even remotely due to parasites, toxic chemicals, or unknown causes?” Justify letting a veteran’s condition(s) to deteriorate to the point of death!!! I want an answer from Sec. Robert Wilkie, from President Donald J Trump, VP Mike Pence. I just wanted what was right for myself and my family, but I can see that there is not now and never was any intention to do the right thing. The last five years (from March 2014) have been almost a waste, from the time DAV’s Dan Knabe and Joseph Braun trashed my claim to now. I have been writing for years, and it’s eaten up my life, wasting it. All of this was unnecessary, but maybe fate made this happen to open the VA’s eyes. I won’t live to see this end I am sure, but I will not sell out my family. I lost my first family and the Army caused it. I had brain damage and the Army was 100% aware, but hoped I would go off and die like an old diseased dog. Tomorrow I will send in my NOA and wait. I am done and just a lay person, not knowing what is good or what is much much better. Can you tell me? I wish I had a say so, but I never have had. This time I will. They have my phone number and I haven’t talked to anyone yet, or the VA can wait, it doesn’t matter. I am leaving some video instructions for my kids, so they aren’t lost after I pass away. victor ray PS. I sleep in sometimes because I still have sleep problems, which also started in Vietnam. I know they say I slept well in Vietnam, because we all did, like babies. I slept 20 hours a day sometimes. Thanks

The VA is hiding the brain damage results in about every Vietnam Veteran. Every person that set foot in Vietnam or drank one cup of water from cycled Vietnam water or ocean water from 150 miles out or closer should demand an MRI. EVER VIETNAM BLUE WATER NAVY VETS should demand an MRI, or if you set foot or touched any aircraft craft carriers, destroyers, or any piece of equipment, machinery, clothing, food, medical supply, or you were married, had family, they all need an MRI. Who would believe the military. The 310 day average for a DRO , is easily twice that at minimum. The 13 to 30 months for a review is easily 5 to 7 years, 3 or 4 times what they say. They told me that Agent Orange does not cause one single disability, none. Why shouldn’t I believe them? There is no way they would ever lie. They wouldn’t inject syphilis into airmen and just let them rot in the name of science would they. They wouldn’t slip LSD to us and not tell us would they. They wouldn’t have our VSO’s threaten us would they. They wouldn’t let over 300,000 vets die waiting for resolution would they! They take care of their vets, and their offspring when they are mutated from deadly chemicals, and they keep us all informed and treat us as soon as they can, even if it takes 50 years. They would give us new brains if they could but Dioxin doesn’t cause tumors or cancers and we know this because they said so. They would not lie. victor

Solo. They don’t destroy documents on personnel that considered casualties, or are tracked with permanent medical disabilities documented. They are kept separate from any service records and that goes for everyone. They cherry picked my medical records, which is completely obvious. The only lost records are those they want lost. I didn’t believe mine were lost in transit from Vietnam like the letter says, but when you are young, dumb, ill, and too trusting for your own good, you pay for it. Like an idiot, I believed our VA government, but just look at the DOJ, the FBI, and now the Treasury Department for what they really are. They would just as soon see you dead. They have let hundreds of thousands of Vietnam Veterans suffer and die, and we don’t know the half of it. The same people running the VA are scamming it on a daily basis, and I bet that over a million dollars a day is stolen by employees using phony accounts by those that have access to direct deposit accounts that raters set up. They called me up right after I had filed and gave me the good news that my disability ratings were being increased and I think she said the new claim or claims were approved. I said that’s great but I didn’t claim xxx and didn’t claim xxx, and had never seen a dime in compensation or pension, in fact I was denied everything including getting any records. She didn’t believe me because she was looking at her screen showing my disabilities and amount I had been receiving for YEARS. The problem is that I had never been granted any service connection at all, after spending a month in the hospital, being issued a permanent profile for permanent defects in my physical capacity and stamina, medivac’d out of Vietnam under false pretenses because they were lost for a cause of the defects, supposedly, and continuous deterioration all the time on duty after Vietnam, and decades afterwards. I think the issue is that they knew they did wrong, intentionally, and there was no doubt about it. They had no choice but to cover it up, no matter how many lies had to be told, or what had to be done. What is amazing is that if you only had 5 months, or less, why didn’t they give you a little severance settlement and out the door. You didn’t get a settlement? I have been hearing of people not even getting through Basic Training and getting 100% disability. I was 100% after Vietnam and got ZERO disability even when the Army documented it, with more than six months active Duty, with 100% Permanent Disabilities being acquired in a War Zone. How ironic! The Army really pulled the big one over on me didn’t they, and it must be the record, or one of them. Maybe the President can use my case as an example of the need for thousands of corrupt employees, especially raters and examiners, needing terminated, and replaced. Well, I hope your conditions improve, and I always thought mine would, but they didn’t. They couldn’t. Do you mind me asking what your disabilities are? Thanks victor ray PS. Yes, I did apply for “ IU” and was denied, twice. The cardiologist I went to for an evaluation saw me three or four times for a total of five or six minutes, grunted two or three times each visit, told me I am 29 times more likely to have a massive heart attack I could not survive, than anyone else, that my bones were very deteriorated and that I have degenerative bone disease so don’t fall and take vitamins D twice a day with lots of fish oil, that I have a very high calcium score, coronary artery disease, atherosclerosis, that I still have one carotid artery that wasn’t totally occluded, take the anticoagulant meds religiously and he was sorry about my conditions. He told the VA I had CAD, but could climb mountains, jog much as I wanted, play football, could golf all I wanted, hike, play most sports, and was basically fine. Tell me the VA didn’t own his a+s. It seems everyone the VA touches turns into a POS - LIAR, so my hope is for a large audience including our president, because Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill could not even get as many medical records as I could, and she has six offices that are staffed, and travels by private jet and limousine.

Solo. They don’t destroy documents on personnel that considered casualties, or are tracked with permanent medical disabilities documented. They are kept separate from any service records and that goes for everyone. They cherry picked my medical records, which is completely obvious. The only lost records are those they want lost. I didn’t believe mine were lost in transit from Vietnam like the letter says, but when you are young, dumb, ill, and too trusting for your own good, you pay for it. Like an idiot, I believed our VA government, but just look at the DOJ, the FBI, and now the Treasury Department for what they really are. They would just as soon see you dead. They have let hundreds of thousands of Vietnam Veterans suffer and die, and we don’t know the half of it. The same people running the VA are scamming it on a daily basis, and I bet that over a million dollars a day is stolen by employees using phony accounts by those that have access to direct deposit accounts that raters set up. They called me up right after I had filed and gave me the good news that my disability ratings were being increased and I think she said the new claim or claims were approved. I said that’s great but I didn’t claim xxx and didn’t claim xxx, and had never seen a dime in compensation or pension, in fact I was denied everything including getting any records. She didn’t believe me because she was looking at her screen showing my disabilities and amount I had been receiving for YEARS. The problem is that I had never been granted any service connection at all, after spending a month in the hospital, being issued a permanent profile for permanent defects in my physical capacity and stamina, medivac’d out of Vietnam under false pretenses because they were lost for a cause of the defects, supposedly, and continuous deterioration all the time on duty after Vietnam, and decades afterwards. I think the issue is that they knew they did wrong, intentionally, and there was no doubt about it. They had no choice but to cover it up, no matter how many lies had to be told, or what had to be done. What is amazing is that if you only had 5 months, or less, why didn’t they give you a little severance settlement and out the door. You didn’t get a settlement? I have been hearing of people not even getting through Basic Training and getting 100% disability. I was 100% after Vietnam and got ZERO disability even when the Army documented it, with more than six months active Duty, with 100% Permanent Disabilities being acquired in a War Zone. How ironic! The Army really pulled the big one over on me didn’t they, and it must be the record, or one of them. Maybe the President can use my case as an example of the need for thousands of corrupt employees, especially raters and examiners, needing terminated, and replaced. Well, I hope your conditions improve, and I always thought mine would, but they didn’t. They couldn’t. Do you mind me asking what your disabilities are? Thanks victor ray

Buck. I posted some of the records on here. Like I said, the VA acts like they don’t see them. The nurse practitioner that wrote up my exam at Excelsior Springs took the records as I handed them to her and turned them face down without losing eye contact with me. She never looked at the evidence, the records, the proof, the nexus, and it was 100% intentional. She intentionally avoided eye contact with the record, showing her intent to discredit me as presenting any evidence. This is criminal crap they are doing now. Maybe she caused the other Stroke because I was so upset at knowing she rigged the exam. Isn’t it illegal for an examiner to “fix” an exam, let alone a C & P exam (that’s nearly 50 years late)? Isn’t that racketeering to rig the outcome of a government exam to see that a veteran is denied benefits? You see Buck. You see how corrupt the VA is. What’s next? Is there anything the VA won’t do? If they can rig exams, buy lawyers, I will guarantee they can buy judges too, and probably do, way more likely than not. The VA has rigged this whole situation for 47+ years and making damn sure it can keep depriving me. My baby girl is 38 years old now, and never saw a dime in any form, no medical, no nothing, even though she inherited my conditions, the chest pains, palpitations, abdominal pain and cramping, and I bet she’s full of tumors. The CHILDREN OF MALE VIETNAM VETERANS HAVE BEEN SCREWED ENTIRELY. Yes, I need a number of attorneys at least, and probably need several complete firms I guess. The VA proves daily that we have no idea how MANIPULATED the entire disability process really is, and how phony the back log is. It is completely produced, intentionally created specifically to slow down the retro payouts and service connection. It’s unnatural for a hundred raters, DROs, attorneys and judges to look at all this mess and miss something that’s in the record and pointed out a hundred times. How can females spend less than six months in Training and get 100% disability rating? How does a vet completely denied PTSD FROM ONE RATER AND VSO then go to 100% with another VSO? Then gets a job with the VSO? Thanks Buck and wish me luck finding an attorney. I hope to find one the VA doesn’t own, one that has guts instead of feathers. victor

Buck. this is what I don’t understand really. I don’t think proving I was sick would do anything at all because they know that already. The have every record I have. They sent me a few of them and I sent them the ones from the NPRC showing me being hospitalized from May 18 1971 in Vietnam to Release from GLNavy Hospital on June 14 1971 (28 days straight) then again in January 1972 and Feb 1972, besides clinic visits. They know I was sick. they have records from the 3rd Field Hospital Saigon, the 3rd Surgical Hospital Bien Thuy Vietnam , the 24th Evacuation Hospital, Long Binh Vietnam, Yokota Airbase Hospital Yokota Japan with lab and test results are all missing, the Great Lakes Naval Hospital, and the RSA (Redstone Army Hospital. It is so pathetic that the VA don’t trust their own doctors, isn’t it? I mean really, isn’t it pathetic? Do they think I forged them? I would have to know a gazillion things to pull that off, and if I was that smart I would own our defense system and lease it to America, when I wasn’t busy running GOOGLE. Simply astonishing, and they thought us vets were the paranoid ones. We are the only ones telling the truth it seems. Maybe I do have a few friends that saw me in the hospital that I was lucky enough to run into in Long Binh and Saigon. General Patton’s granddaughter was in Chicago, but she’s busy in Ireland I think. I had a buddy in Alabama that took an RPG THROUGH THE MOUTH” in Vietnam and he got denied too. The lawyers can dig these guys up and it would be good to see them, and he can bill the VA for their flight and other expense. There’s one that would remember me 100%, still in my hospital gown, and he said he saw guys in the bush with my condition often, but this was just before I was headed for Japan in my baby blues and flip flops. He didn’t see the swollen limbs and ankles, bloody urine, the pains in the bones, acne, abdominal pain, my lab results because I never saw them and never told about them. I would only bring these guys out in a trial, and only because the VA has gone insane with an obsession in proving it is above all authority on earth given to mankind. They have already proven that the FOIAs do not apply to the VA, and have proven that I have already lost. It is not possible for me to get the 47+ years that we’re lost back, but maybe my living offspring won’t lose. they want 6K for an add, but an interview is free, but yes, I need to send the NOA off Monday, and try to figure out why they don’t believe their own people. They don’t trust themselves, and probably the people they sleep with and work with. Not their own parents or children. I thought my life had been screwed up, but I have hope, and they have nothing. thanks Buck. victor ray

Buck, I’m a deadman walking, but I appreciate your encouragement. I have already lost, so what happens from here on out is what ever the VA wants it to be, and I’m sure they have already informed everyone that needs to know what the result will be. It was all figured out 47.5 years ago what it would be, depending on how long I survived, and should have expired by now. I bet they are disappointed, but they still win. Every year the retro pay is worth less and less. In 1971 a Z28 Cameron was $5100, with the options and a monster 402 cu., poi’s rear, and today it’s about $70K. 14 times increase so basically today’s money is worth 1/14th of what it was in 1971. The VA makes a killing treating vets like this, paying them with a fraction of what’s fair. Veterans always lose, “ALWAYS LOSE, and can not win, not yet!. i think if anything, the bare minimum should go back uptown the day I left Vietnam, every benefit my kids lost out on, reembursement for every cent we spent that the VA should have paid for, and some extra, for all damages, pain & suffering, and extra for it all being intentional. thats the way I feel, but we will see if any firm has any guts or are hooked to puppet strings. Thanks Buck. victor ray

Solo. yes, I am still at 90% and have been for about four months, I think it is. They put me there before the BVA denied everything except a “0% SC Award” for atopic dermatitis that BEGAN IN VIETNAM, which they denied knowing about for 47 years-2 months-14 days. The government documented it and dozens of raters in St. Louis, Atlanta, Omaha, Waco Texas, and Washington DC looked at, while the DRO in St. Louis thought about it, and the Disability Board looked at in 1983, and not one VA employee realized that The Atopic Dermatitis that began in Vietnam continues today. What, 30 to 50 of the finest and brightest think it cleared itself up I guess. Didn’t any of the lawyers see it even after I pointed it out hundreds of times? It’s these kind of life altering fibs that destroyed my life and family while they all have drinks and discuss how they F’d me over. What a bunch of POS. I have been totally disabled with Social Security for almost nine years, following a bad stroke. That’s when they discovered my left carotid artery was completely and severely blocked and inoperable. A very old blockage extending from my neck deep into the skull. I didn’t realize I had also had a stroke at 19years old while on duty at Redstone Arsenal Alabama, five or six months after battling malaria or the chemical used to experiment on me with. Direct Dioxin injection I guess to make sure I was a good little control subject for the next year, unless I died on duty. When they scanned my brain during another stroke, they found an old basal ganglia infarction. It was almost forty seven years old, about the same as the left anterior carotid artery’s age. A lot of coincidences, diseases, and various strange medical conditions, all in less than one year after arriving in Vietnam. The carotid artery isn’t even there anymore. It’s so old it has been absorbed into the muscle, beginning about forty seven years ago. The Army probably knew down to the week when the artery would close, when the stroke would occur, and that the VA had already ordered the phony losing of my medical records to protect the government in its coverup of Agent Orange. It’s amazing, and it’s shameless.

Buck. I guess so. Basically, they confirmed what I thought. I need a law firm that will represent me, get the records that I can’t, then proceed to put the events in order for the VA’s record. Of course they already have every speck of information that exists, know the complete line of events, but we have to show them that we also know more likely than not, what the scenario is too, and prove at least equally, to more likely than not to everyone else what the case is, why it’s taken my lifetime to get here in order to get a few answers and proper compensation for my offspring, seeing that I was 100% disabled at discharge and should have been medically retired. I already know these answers, I think?, but maybe they will give me a wink to let me know I was right, even if they don’t or won’t put it in writing for their own reasons. Something must have been very very special, in my opinion. victor ray

It’s disgusting to me the amount of deceit that is exposed on a daily occurrence from the government. The only thing keeping us from imploding is lies. Lies are holding this all together, with some deceit thrown in. I have always been refused treatment at VAMC’s because of no service connection and I only got SC’d three years ago, and was forced to by my own insurance and find my own doctors all my life. I always paid for everything. I was treated in the Army, by the Army, until April 1972, then seen again in 2015 at VAMC. The years inbetween were out of my pocket, and I never dreamed the VA would call me a liar when the Army documented everything. I never kept records because I never knew the VA was so corrupt, and that I needed to, because the Army had them. Everytime I see a VA employee now, doctors and such, I will ask if they are contractors or direct VA employees. They are contracting the liability out to others, putting the responsibility and liability on others, away from them selves. My case is different. It was all military medical practioners. The government misdiagnosed me dozens of times, and allowed us to rot rather than admit they were so inferior in modern medicine, in comparison to civilian medicine. The changes I went through and acquired after the injection in Vietnam and the stroke afterwards, are inherited by my kids. Yes, the VA will cover up all malpractice if it can. It will hide any evidence it can find that incriminates itself. Which is worse, the crime or the cover up? In a good “cover up”, who knows if a crime really exists or ever actually took place. the Army left me ill and dangling on occasion after occasion, not naming the cause and often the issue, like swollen legs ankles and arms. So they are swollen, but why? WHY? No diagnosis? Is that the Army’s best analyses? WHAT CAUSED THEM TO SWELL.??? Are they so dumb they can not understand the simple question? That’s what I have had to put up with. Their experts tell them not to name conditions and diagnosis because you can’t file for disability without a name. Thanks Berta victor ray

Solo. you’re right. His lawyer made .5 million for a few hours work. On most every veterans clean has been around that same amount it seems and it makes you wonder why. I have made of veterans having good claims that should have been 10 times what they got at least but they put the fear into you and flex their muscles that if you don’t take that offer you’re going to get nothing. It’s No wonder there are so many veterans suicide’s and it’s on the rise again. A person can only take so many lies and so much deceit before they snap, and we are getting more educated in the law that was so secret and heavily guarded. Personally they have already cheated me out of 47+ years that I lost. They manipulated everything to work out this way and knew they were going to cheat me 47 years ago. I was too ignorant to see it, and too stupid for believing they wouldn’t lie. Now the treasury department is being exposed for some of its corruption. It makes you wonder if there is even one branch of government that isn’t controlled by Crooks, Liars, and Thieves. They create the law, preside over the law, and decide what part of the law they will allow to be used by the veteran, and if they don’t like the case, they throw it out, like DAV in the VARO Building did with my claim. I think Dan threw it straight in the trash when he saw it was 1983 reopened. To hell with that he said, but it went back to the day after I was medivac’d out of Vietnam so he did his job for the VA, or DAV, or DVA. They are one in the same, but they will lie about that too. Nobody at the St. Louis regional office has any truth in there being. It’s all corrupt to the core. vr

Buck, I did not know that. I know less than I know, lol, if you know what I mean. When I learn a good thing about favorable vets claims I also see where the same claim is denied by a different judge. It’s who you know pretty much, apparently, and where you’re located. My claims were handled in St. Louis, Mo, Atlanta GA, Omaha ? Nebraska, Waco Texas. Waco said I never complained in service. With this being such a mess, it has to involve secret stuff. I know I sound against the VA most the time but I am not at all. If anything, I have been patient. Way too patient, way too trusting, way too believing that the right person would see the issues, the evidence and step in to resolve this, but it’s not going to happen it looks like. They screw me either way no matter what. Imagine the interest on a 100k on the money market for 47 years, or imagine the interest they made on not giving me the millions in benefits and C & P all these years. The VA, after the Army shafted me, took their turn and made it impossible for me to get to the cause of my conditions, or documents that actually name anything. There are at least three different things being done in my situation. 1.Unspecified cause of urticaria, 2.undetermined organisms, medical conditions not connected to VVets yet. With any settlement, I loose any future benefits until the VA recoups all of its payout. I have lost over 47 years of what I can’t get back or enjoy, and all because of the untruth. victor Ray

I don’t trust lawyers either. I wouldn’t doubt Tally’s lawyer sold him out, and I would almost bet money on it. The lawyer scared him, like they usually do. They say hey bubba, if you pursue this you have less than 1% of winning. They will throw it out then you won’t get “anything”, but worse that that, I won’t get anything for the full 18 hours I put into this”. That’s my opinion. My brothers mother in law lost two sons, his two brother in laws in a train accident at the same time. She got nothing even though the unmanned caboose a half mile away backed over them. They were trespassing while crossing over a trestle to go fishing..

Berta. thank you for posting this. I can relate 100% and have been treated for bone degeration for many many years. I also have Spinal Srenosis, and many other conditions as documented in my service records, but the VA and recently the BVA just ignored them. I have been misdiagnosed at least, very minimum, a dozen times while on duty. I can’t name them all now, but some are blatantly obvious, and the VA has just used up my life running me around. One instance is six or eight months after being released from the infectious disease ward, I had developed Group A Streptococcus with Pharyngitis which became Rheumatic Fever. I repeatedly over and over sought treatment for dozens of conditions but it seems they were just watching to see how sick I could get without dying on duty. They did not treat me like I was ill, despite repeated clinic visits, having to stay in quarters, or rehospitalization. I can not believe the level of care furnished to us in 1970-1972. It’s as though they were all nurses in training and not one bit better. Even though the results stare them in the face, they had no idea what to do. “Ok, the guy has Rheumatic Fever, we know it, but we weren’t trained beyond that so just see if he gets better. No blood pressure in this guy, so he must be ill from something”. That seems to be it. Seriously, they did not have a clue what any parasitic diseases were, or lysis from malaria, and don’t have to answer for it. That is what’s sad. I’m not anti-VA either, but I am anti-deceptive practices of the VA, don’t agree with any of their supervisors ordering record destruction, manipulation, altering documentation, or withholding evidence that would vindicate the veteran. I had already been ill six years when Brian Tally was born. It’s beyond tort claims I think. The VA has to be corrected. Thank you! Victor Ray

Solo. the records were never destroyed. I was just told they were lost, and that was six or seven months after I returned. I came back June 11 1971. My first records request was in January 1972, and in February 72 they said they were lost in transit from Vietnam. The next one was in 1983, and I got no response at all, although I had filed a claim and requested records again. From February 2012 on, I have requested my medical records, and the last couple years been told “they are being withheld which if released would fall under the Deliberative Process Privilege.” The VA has been anticipating litigation since I was discharged. I finally got some of the hospitalization records from treatments in RVN in 2015/16, but not those showing the stroke, migraines, names of parasites in the eyes, lungs, blood, the chemicals I was injected with in RVN. no, they weren’t destroyed or they wouldn’t be withholding anything. Other countries would just execute you for asking for your evidence, and I am thankful this is America.

Ok Buck. I’ll set my alarm and plan on calling in tonight. There was “0 duty to assist” help in 1983. I did not receive any help from the VA in anyway in 1983. The military did not want me having any records. They got the requests, but sent no records. A January 11, 1983 NOP note gave the authority to defer all Agent Orange claims. Mine was as well. I requested my medical records before being discharged and was told by Army Authorities they were lost. If I would have been given those medical records from hospitalizations in Vietnam, I could have proven while still on active duty that my conditions were directly 100% acquired on or made worse by active duty service. The simple truth is they began on duty because of toxicities. The Army caused it, simply put, but the VA has denied they were ever mentioned in the service, but I have some of the documents in hand that do, but the Army was sneaky back then, and still today deny their own evidence. Especially with experiments done on service members. My medical opinion means nothing, and there is no such thing as a benefit of doubt, or a tie going to the vet. That’s a myth, created to give us the impression of fairness in decision. It’s total meaningless bull. Pits like the Atopic Dermatitis I was awarded after it being in plain sight on record as beginning in Vietnam, discovered on May 26, 1971 at the 24th Evacuation Hospital in RVN. I told them for a hundred years and after looking at it for 47 they gave me the “benefit of doubt (choke cough puke). That’s their way of saying “see how great and just we are to you?” It’s absolutely a CUE, but much, much worse. It was intentional and that should be penalized very very heavily with damages and corrections to other vets records. Another NEHMER, of sorts. I will call tonight. 6pm central time right! victor ray

Buck. I don’t think I should call in. I think I had better get the NOA on record, and stop wasting time. I plan on listening, but it’s out of my hands now anyway and I need to get the records in order and write some things down for others. Nothing I say or do would make any difference. I may up and call, but I’m not figuring on it. I hate hearing how the VA can twist the entire scenario to make the victim be guilty of getting injured, ill, or diseased, and for being in any situation where it could even happen. The victim violated some article, rules, or regulations to be damaged, there for the VA is not responsible. I was told the Army is not part of the VA, so any issue from Army service needs to be taken up with the Army. At this point, the VA’s purpose is to make sure no settlements are to be made before my death, so my family will never see justice, and you can bet your life I won’t. All this pretense of caring is a show for themselves, those that run the VA, the superiors with power over the law, those that have the power to change-alter-hide what ever they want or need to in the interest of benefiting the government. I probably shouldn’t call Buck because I would say something that would offend someone in some way, I’m sure, but I may. I will listen for sure, but I may. Thanks for the reminder. I really appreciate the link and the number. Thanks to everyone! victor ray

Solo. Thank you very much for the information on the doctors and about the VA concerning your case, and their manipulative ways. I would not believe this was possible 47 years ago, but with all I have seen the last six years, there is nothing that would surprise me. I may be shocked, but not surprised. I tried to work with the VA directly believing that the corrupt fossils of yesteryear had passed away and a new generation of honest employees had taken their place. Wrong. It seems things are better for veterans only because we are not as asleep and trusting as we were. The VA has always taken advantage of my trust, and manipulated me in about every way they could and still keep me ignorant using up my life. They’ve succeeded, but I’m sure the VA figured it would have ended before now, but they still win. I will be dead before the end of this so it will be a family affair, since they’ve inherited issues as well. I was wanting things made right, but after waking up I realize “that” will never happen. I can’t handle this because the “right thing” is not part of it. It’s gonna take a team of experts, the media, and time that I don’t have. Maybe lots of time, and another stroke or condition won’t wait for the VA. They’ve had 47 years to mull it around, and despite the claims, begging for help while still on duty, to the present day manipulation and with the BVA, I am done. No single lawyer could win this in my opinion, so there is no way I would attempt to represent myself. They are forcing me to loose a lot, give up what I never got, and for almost half a century deceived me over and over and over, without giving a xxxx about me or any member of my family. I think there is more to this than I know, more than any—-one, knows. This shouldn’t be such a big deal, so secretive, so mysterious, so hidden and covered up for so long. I really don’t get it, but something is very wrong, and always has been. Thanks Solo vr

You are exactly right and Solo is on it. It took me all my life to realize many of these things being discussed here, now, and especially the magnitude of it all. My initial Agent Orange Registry Exam from when I filed in 1983, was missing much of the findings the doctor discussed with me, at the exam. I never received a single result of that exam. We discussed my lungs being all spotted and me having chronic lung conditions after Vietnam, even being rehospitalized months after Vietnam for lung problems at 19 years old and I knew it wasn’t from smoking. We discussed me still swelling up at times with hives, but suffered insomnia and an abnormal itching of the skin, with dots all over. He said it was Atopic Dermatitis and prescribed Benadryl which I have taken much of my life. He never mentioned Denny’s lines, or what it meant. The only thing I got from this fee-based dermatologists exam was the VA’s denial letter for Eczema and Agent Orange Residuals citing “ Atopic Dermatitis with Generalized Pruritus “. No mention of any lung condition with spots and no mention of petechia in the denial letter. In the denial was the first time Denny’s lines was mentioned as well. Never saw the blood work results, x-rays of anything, and never received a single medical record after our requests. I have never gotten any medical records at all until 2015, and finally got “some” of the hospitalization records from Vietnam. The ones that were lost intransit from Vietnam 45 years earlier. The VA has experts that all they do are study these cases and the end results to manipulate the outcome. It’s a game to them and they can’t lose no matter what. It’s not their money nor their problem and are rewarded no matter what. A win-win for the VA because they never answer for any wrong doing, no matter how purposeful or intentional. It’s dirty, the lawyers are dirty, the law is twisted, and suicides are up due to VA Law mishandling and white collar crime running the VA. They can NOT do the right thing. It’s not who they are. What do we do? victor Ray

Broncovet. I will totallly check them out, do not worry. Also, I misunderstood and the attorneys assistance didn’t explain some of the conditions that fall under 38 CFR 3.309 (a), and I have a number of them. The chronic diseases. There are 40+ conditions, and at a glance I see at least ten that I have, at least one Tropical Disease under (b), six that are under (c). I was not a POW, BUT developed the same six conditions. The records showing brain hemorrhage, thrombosis, malaria, migraines, are all withheld, so, the VA put a limit on what I can claim. It’s totally intentional because it would be one more case proving the malaria-PTSD Connection. They truly are the sneakiest at what the do. i’m gonna Win this.

Broncovet, As Buck said, that’s a great suggestion and good advice. I have to do something soon, but maybe a local attorney would be better. If I have to sign something, or get a copy to them, I can do it in a matter of minutes, and if they screw me over and sell me out, I will organize a Pickett party in front of the firm for the camera crews. I am really tired of being screwed over just for trying to get justice. The Army did this, then then VA partnered up to cover it up. They did this to others too, but they probably got attorneys right away. They probably weren’t lied to like I was. This is a shame on the government for being so ruthless in stealing due compensation and ruining a career. I would like to hear their excuses, but it doesn’t matter because nothing is believable. They say what ever it takes to put you off, cause another delay, or cover up the last story. You talk to levels of different rank and department and they are forbidden to talk to each other. i just spoke to an attorney, and it was a waste of time. They want to go after the least of the conditions. Atopic Dermatitis that was awarded for an earlier effective date of 0%. Lol, so 0 + 0= 0, or am I wrong? They want to fight for an earlier effective date for a 0% award? Doesn’t the fact that they are withholding the evidence have anything to do with this? Why can’t I understand the VA’s law? They can say “we are not going to release the records because they fall under the Deliberative Process Privilege, allowing us to withhold the truth and facts the Army documented in 1971 and 72, therefore you have no claim”? Is it really that easy to dismiss a case, just by withholding evidence? They have the documents and are saying what are you gonna do about it. We own the law, the truth is what we say it is, it is what we want it to be, and you idiots can’t change it. They lied about having the records in 1971, ignored the request in 1983, ignored dozens of other requests through to 2015/2016 as well as all benefits over my lifetime. Thanks Broncovet for all the good information, but I am going to the news stations and give them a story. Thanks. victor ray