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Changing A Nsc Condition To A Sc Condition?

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In 1974 I lost my original claim when the VA said that an alternative diagnosis was made, changing a psychiatric diagnosis to a personality disorder.

Now I have in the records where the VA had awarded me a 50% disability for pension purposes, for an Adjustment Disorder with Depression and Anxiety. and 30 % for Sarcoidosis and gave me 100 % IU but this was only for pension.

The original diagnosis I had when I left service was for an Acute Schizophrenic Episode, in remission demonstrtating moderate impairment to social and industrial adaptability. associated with depression and anxiety. The nervous disorder as they called it was changed to a personality disorder, but nothing was said or done about the moderate impairment to social and industrial adaptability associated with depression and Anxiety. Get where I'm going with this?

Would it be worht the trouble to file for the Adjustment disorder with depression and anxiety as Service connected using my existing medical and treatment records to substnatiale the claim.?

Would it still be necessary to get an IMO, to prove Nexus even though their appears to be enough evidence in the records to show a continual problem with this new claim?

Also would it be classified as a unadjudicated claim that might have a much earlier claim date than the NSC claim that brought to like the similarities of diagnosis?

Any thoughts or rules regulations, or laws that might help me understand if this is a course for a claim would be most appreciated.

Rockhound :rolleyes:

Are you a paranoid schizophrenic

if the ones you think are out to

get you, really are?

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wow Rockhound thats a good and difficult question. I dont have an answer, but will look forward to seeing how you can get your due. The wording on your VA award sounds very clear, sounds like it should be 'rated', but I am no expert. Come to think of it, my early psych disability diagnosis always had a 'dangler' on it as well. When I recently applied for increase to mdd alone, the VA automatically put that dangler (additional tag terms) on it again. The diagnosis in my VA med records doesnt have the extra terms anymore on the diagnosis. I feel curious as to why the VARO keeps it there without validity. odd. Guess I better ask too, eh?

The way I understand it decisions regarding claims are supposed to lean in favor of the vet. So I hope it all goes your way, while I dont know your story, I do know if one doesn't ask, one wont get a answer. Best to ya', cg

In 1974 I lost my original claim when the VA said that an alternative diagnosis was made, changing a psychiatric diagnosis to a personality disorder.

Now I have in the records where the VA had awarded me a 50% disability for pension purposes, for an Adjustment Disorder with Depression and Anxiety. and 30 % for Sarcoidosis and gave me 100 % IU but this was only for pension.

The original diagnosis I had when I left service was for an Acute Schizophrenic Episode, in remission demonstrtating moderate impairment to social and industrial adaptability. associated with depression and anxiety. The nervous disorder as they called it was changed to a personality disorder, but nothing was said or done about the moderate impairment to social and industrial adaptability associated with depression and Anxiety. Get where I'm going with this?

Would it be worht the trouble to file for the Adjustment disorder with depression and anxiety as Service connected using my existing medical and treatment records to substnatiale the claim.?

Would it still be necessary to get an IMO, to prove Nexus even though their appears to be enough evidence in the records to show a continual problem with this new claim?

Also would it be classified as a unadjudicated claim that might have a much earlier claim date than the NSC claim that brought to like the similarities of diagnosis?

Any thoughts or rules regulations, or laws that might help me understand if this is a course for a claim would be most appreciated.

Rockhound :rolleyes:

For my children, my God sent husband and my Hadit family of veterans, I carry on.

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Cowgirl: Reminds me, I wore my riding chaps to help keep the cold of my legs, when I went into town the other day. The only thing I had to ride was my electric chair. LoL got to get my mind back on subject.

If I should file this claim action and they deny it, saying the same old thing, that the acute schizophrenic episode and its trailer was changed to a personality disorder, can I then appeal bringing to light that their change of diagnosis has no basis in fact, since the VA C&P Examiner did not state that the original diagnosis was clearly and unmistakably in error. finally getting them in my cross hairs as it were?

Rockhound :rolleyes:

Are you a paranoid schizophrenic

if the ones you think are out to

get you, really are?

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"Would it be worht the trouble to file for the Adjustment disorder with depression and anxiety as Service connected using my existing medical and treatment records to substnatiale the claim.?"

Yes if you get current treatment for this?

I am confused by the diagnoses you mentioned as to inservice etc-

SC depends on:

1. current diagnosis and treatment

2. inservice event that supports inservice nexus

3. medical evidence that connects # 1 to # 2.

What are you currently diagnosed with and treated for?

The same diagnoses in your pension award?

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Berta: You think your confused, you should see it through my eyes: LoL

The original diagnosis for which I received my medical discharge was for an

"Acute Schizophrenic Episode, in remission. (DNEPE) DC #2954 or VA DC #9205 manifested by agressive, assaultive and hostile behavior, with no know precipitating event, followed by a period of catatonic stupor, now in complete remission. He demonstrates moderate impairment for future social and industreial adaptability, but severe impairment for future military service."

It goes further to say, "associated with Depression and Anxiety, Listing that the condition was probably perminent.

Of course the acute schizophrenic episode, in remission was what was changed, (illegaly in my way of thinking) to a personality disorder. Nothing was ever mentioned about the effects it caused concerning social and industrial adaptablity with depression and anxiety.

Although I have been able to subsist in society, my records speek of many jobs, poor college records, moved around more than what I would think was normal, three failed marriages, letters from employers, One mental health evaluation that treated me for depression, in 1979 and one psychologist Phd. who listed me as having an Adjustment Disorder with Mixed Anxiety and Depressed Mood, in 1999 an then their was the diagnosis of the Adjustment Disorder with Depression and Anxiety that led to my NSC pension.

I guess all I can say it that I demonstrated an adjustment disorder with depression and anxiety in service, which was said to probably be perminent. Personal records showing a considerable difficulties adjusting to social and industrial norms. treated for problems with ongoing depression and anxiety, and two concurring findings of an adjustment disorder with depression and anxiety.

All I would need I think would be a Nexus letter, that they all are for one and the same disorder.

To get me past the new and material evidence rule in order to reopen my claim. Although to me, this is a claim that has never been considered except for the NSC pension and If I remember right, they should have considered it for SC at the same time as an implied claim?????

Sorry for the long post, learning bits and pieces, doesn't give you as good a picture of my problem.

Rockhound :blink:

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Are you a paranoid schizophrenic

if the ones you think are out to

get you, really are?

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Rockhound, Lets see if I get this right....becasue I dont have answers, but I think you can get some here or somewhere....

You filed an orginal claim in 1974

You either do or dont have a copy of your original claim.

If you don't, its probably in your CFile.

Your VA claims history is:

1974 I lost my original claim when the VA said that an alternative diagnosis was made, changing a psychiatric diagnosis to a personality disorder.Your current VA diagnosis for SC issues are, if any:

??

Your current NSC issues are:

the VA had awarded me a 50% disability for pension purposes, for an Adjustment Disorder with Depression and Anxiety. and 30 % for Sarcoidosis and gave me 100 % IU but this was only for pension.

Your current claim at the VA is for:

What new claim and is it in now? Would it still be necessary to get an IMO, to prove Nexus even though their appears to be enough evidence in the records to show a continual problem with this new claim?

Your Medical Discharge states a certain diagnosis of:

The original diagnosis for which I received my medical discharge was for an

"Acute Schizophrenic Episode, in remission. (DNEPE) DC #2954 or VA DC #9205 manifested by agressive, assaultive and hostile behavior, with no know precipitating event, followed by a period of catatonic stupor, now in complete remission. He demonstrates moderate impairment for future social and industreial adaptability, but severe impairment for future military service."

It goes further to say, "associated with Depression and Anxiety, Listing that the condition was probably perminent.

You seem to have different doctor/psych diagnosis(s) from the VA and/or Civilian Drs:

One mental health evaluation that treated me for depression, in 1979

one psychologist Phd. who listed me as having an Adjustment Disorder with Mixed Anxiety and Depressed Mood, in 1999

Then the diagnosis of the Adjustment Disorder with Depression and Anxiety that led to my NSC pension.

You want to change a NSC to SC condition based on the following thoughts:

Would it be worht the trouble to file for the Adjustment disorder with depression and anxiety as Service connected using my existing medical and treatment records to substnatiale the claim.?

My thoughts agree with yours, Good thinking!!

I think a current diagnosis, VA and/or IMO and clear nexus statement is important.

I am not sure but curious too! Do you have a VSO to check with?

Would it be classified as a unadjudicated claim that might have a much earlier claim date?

best to ya, cg

p.s. ya know they make some warm fleece chaps nowadays dont ya?

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If a current diagnosis means. I have had one on the books for three to four years now, that i am still to this day being treated for. Then yes I guess I have a current diagnosis. That would then only leave a Nexus letter that needs to be written. It will probably have to come from the VA because I cannot find a psychologist or psychistrist who takes Medicare to help defray my costs for an IMO. I'm going to try and get seen by the Adult mental health services here, they work on a sliding scale on ability to pay, will have to see what it will cost, maybe medicare will be enough?

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Are you a paranoid schizophrenic

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get you, really are?

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