Agent Orange Outside Vietnam

[jamescripps2]

[jamescripps2]

This is the web site where my prior post about the Zumwalt report can be found. I forgot to post it earlier.

http://www.koreanwar.org/html/units/dmz/dm..._69.htm?set=150

Scroll down to the "Report" and what I posted will be found under item # 5, but the entire report is very revealing.

Admiral Zumwalt was in charge of all spraying operations in Vietnam. His son was with the Brown Water Navy and was directly involved in the spraying operations. His son died early on as due to Agent Orange related illnesses. The Admiral died a few months back. Pitiful story,but ironic.

[jamescripps2]

This is the web site where my prior post about the Zumwalt report can be found. I forgot to post it earlier.

http://www.koreanwar.org/html/units/dmz/dm..._69.htm?set=150

Scroll down to the "Report" and what I posted will be found under item # 5, but the entire report is very revealing.

Admiral Zumwalt was in charge of all spraying operations in Vietnam. His son was with the Brown Water Navy and was directly involved in the spraying operations. His son died early on as due to Agent Orange related illnesses. The Admiral died a few months back. Pitiful story,but ironic.

help me fan the flames on this one, there are so many like me who stand little or no chance without media exposure to make the VA comply with direct exposure regulations. Post your comments on the Channel 5 News forum. http://www.topix.net/forum/source/wtvf/TOF1SO8736NIUNHNO/p2

Thanks, James

[jamescripps2]

help me fan the flames on this one, there are so many like me who stand little or no chance without media exposure to make the VA comply with direct exposure regulations. Post your comments on the Channel 5 News forum. http://www.topix.net/forum/source/wtvf/TOF1SO8736NIUNHNO/p2

Thanks, James

I cite 38 C.F.R. 38-303 b. and that statute reads, " Where there is a chronic disease shown as such in service, subsequent manifestations of the same chronic disease at any later date, however remote, are service connected unless clearly attributable to intercurrent causes".

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A well recognized mound of scientific and medical knowledge confirms the fact that the disease of Chloracne only occurs in those people who have been exposed to Dioxin, which is the contaminant in Agent Orange. The disease resists all treatment and is known to persist for more than 40 years, and even a lifetime. The E.P.A. has publications available to substantiate those facts. As the effects of Dioxin are known to be dose responsive, there exists only two ways to come into contact with Dioxin in such massive doses as to cause the disease of Chloracne.

The first scenario would be direct involvement in an industrial accident of such magnitude as to release massive doses of Dioxin. Those accidents are known and the persons involved are tracked for life. It does not take a lot of dioxin to constitute a massive dose.

The second scenario is having been exposed to a herbicide agent such as those used in Vietnam. I am due my service connected benefits unless the V.A. can discredit the well documented fact that I have the disease of Chloracne, or clearly show the origin of my exposure as being elsewhere. To deny my claim on its merits, the evidence must preponderate against the claim. I was never an industrial worker, but I was a soldier, with proof of direct exposure. Now add a little reasonable doubt, shake it all about, and see how it all comes out.

The acneform disease is noted on my separation service medical examination . That exam took place on Feb.20, 1970, and that date proves to have been13 days inside the1 year limit after my last exposure date of March 4, 1969. as required to claim the disease of Chloracne. The one year statute is not required unless the case depends on a presumptive exposure, rather than direct exposure. The fact that the diagnosis did take place within one year of my last exposure should add considerable weight to the evidence and show that it is not a new case of Chloracne that I claim, but rather one that clearly was overlooked for 38 years because of the classified nature of my exposure which was not de-classified until the year 2003. I only became aware of the AO use at Fort Gordon in 2005.

http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/reading_room/T...lHerbicides.pdf once again, page49 & 50.

I think that I have documented for you at this time about 900 gallons of agents blue, orange, and white plus more than 20 other herbicide agents that were applied at Fort Gordon. That is in addition to my own application of herbicides. How much more do I need to show?

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[Berta]

James- and all others-

I hesitate to even make this post-

I have in my hands a very recent RO decision sent to a veteran-

AO disability granted-

Exposure to AO? where? In The US of A!!!!!!

I received this decision in an unusual way that bothered me and am trying to get the veteran's full permission to tell any more about it-what

I mean is that I got a phone call about it and I asked for some more info and then I got what I didnt expect -the whole decision was sent to me-

I dont know if that will occur-getting the veteran's permission to say more-

in any event-this is a bonafide certified decision -AO -USA-

We dont have any way to access VARO decisions - unless we see them ourselves-or get them directly from the vet themselves.

We cannot use them tosupport a similiar claim unless the vet agrees to that.

Sometimes the Ros make fabulous decisions- but we never see them- they are not public like the BVA-

I even hesitate to mention this here until I get much more info-from the vet-himself-

it is hard to believe this is true but it must be.

If I cannot get the vet's permission to tell you more on this

so be it-

BUT it shows me that Nothing- as I said here before- NOTHING is impossible with the VA.

James You seem quite familiar with the chloracne regs etc-

and have the diagnosis so I believe you still need the inservice exposure nexus-

Somehow this vet proved he was exposed to AO in the US of A.

Proved it-I wonder how he did that- cant tell yet from what the decision says.

I actually thought this morning that I had dreamed this all up but this AM I read it again

NOthing is impossible-so dont give up on your claim and get all you can that prove direct exposure to AO.

Edited March 14, 2008 by Berta

[jamescripps2]

James- and all others-

I hesitate to even make this post-

I have in my hands a very recent RO decision sent to a veteran-

AO disability granted-

Exposure to AO? where? In The US of A!!!!!!

I received this decision in an unusual way that bothered me and am trying to get the veteran's full permission to tell any more about it-what

I mean is that I got a phone call about it and I asked for some more info and then I got what I didnt expect -the whole decision was sent to me-

I dont know if that will occur-getting the veteran's permission to say more-

in any event-this is a bonafide certified decision -AO -USA-

We dont have any way to access VARO decisions - unless we see them ourselves-or get them directly from the vet themselves.

We cannot use them tosupport a similiar claim unless the vet agrees to that.

Sometimes the Ros make fabulous decisions- but we never see them- they are not public like the BVA-

I even hesitate to mention this here until I get much more info-from the vet-himself-

it is hard to believe this is true but it must be.

If I cannot get the vet's permission to tell you more on this

so be it-

BUT it shows me that Nothing- as I said here before- NOTHING is impossible with the VA.

James You seem quite familiar with the chloracne regs etc-

and have the diagnosis so I believe you still need the inservice exposure nexus-

Somehow this vet proved he was exposed to AO in the US of A.

Proved it-I wonder how he did that- cant tell yet from what the decision says.

I actually thought this morning that I had dreamed this all up but this AM I read it again

NOthing is impossible-so dont give up on your claim and get all you can that prove direct exposure to AO.

Thanks Berta,

More information on this one would be an answer to a prayer! If the veteran involved in the AO exposure claim inside the US the, and the resultant favorable decision can release more information it would be very helpful to those of us who still struggle. I will folllow this one closely.

jamescripps9@aol.com

Thanks,

James

[Berta]

I backtracked this decision- also

I think I said it was VARO decision-

but it wasnt -it came from the Appeals Management Center and I breezed over the first page too fast trying to digest what this was-

the BVA remanded this initially due to my endless point of gripe here at hadit- Violations of the VCAA !

There is nothing whatever in the BVA remand to show how this claim was finally decided-

the remand clearly asked for more information regarding the Agent Orange-proof of exposure-

A lot happened between the remand in 2006 and this decision here in 2008-back and forth between the veteran and the AMC-

I dont have a clue what happened and talked to the vet who sent this to me yesterday-he is still trying to reach the AO vet.

There was an unusual DIC decision at the CAVC many years ago-

AO not from Vietnam-

AT the last minute the BVA awarded- just so there would not be any precedental CAVC opinion-

These claims can be won-I might never get more info on this one-

it takes positive proof of AO usage as well as personal exposure-

the Thailand AO vet's claim I mentioned here before-

had very detailed facts and a buddy statement- and he succeeded in AO award.

VA has awarded AO outside of Vietnam.