HadIt.com Elder Wings Posted November 13, 2008 HadIt.com Elder Share Posted November 13, 2008 x x x Phone call to AMC sez they have my claim and is "before a rating specialist" Phone call to VARO sez they don't have it. When I read my BVA Remand, I am VERY confused as to who has jurisdiction, who has it, where is it going, etc? Tell me what you read from the remand found here http://www.va.gov/vetapp08/files4/0828378.txt Citation Nr: 0828378 Decision Date: 08/21/08 Archive Date: 09/02/08 DOCKET NO. 06-33 573 ) DATE ) ) On appeal from the Department of Veterans Affairs Regional Office in Oakland, California THE ISSUE Entitlement to an effective date prior to January 25, 1999 for the grant of service connection for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD M. Sorisio, Associate Counsel INTRODUCTION The appellant is a veteran who served on active duty from October 1980 to November 1986. This matter is before the Board of Veterans' Appeals (Board) on appeal from a January 2005 rating decision of the San Diego, California Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Regional Office (RO) that denied an effective date prior to January 25, 1999 for the grant of service connection for PTSD. The veteran’s claims file is now in the jurisdiction of the Oakland, California RO. The appeal is REMANDED to the RO via the Appeals Management Center (AMC), in Washington, DC. VA will notify the appellant if further action on her part is required. REMAND In a June 2008 submission to the Board, the veteran alleged that the RO committed clear and unmistakable error (CUE) in an August 1988 administrative decision that found that she had a dishonorable period of service from October 13, 1984 to November 21, 1986. Specifically, she argued that the finding that she had a dishonorable period of service and that a failure to notify her of the August 1988 decision were CUE. A review of the record indicates that she has previously raised similar arguments; however, the RO has not adequately addressed the veteran's allegations of CUE in the August 1988 administrative decision. While the veteran indicated that she was waiving initial review of the CUE claim by the RO, the veteran is unable to waive such review as the Board does not currently have jurisdiction over a CUE claim. 38 C.F.R. §§ 20.101, 20.200. Notably, the veteran's effective date claim is a "freestanding" claim; she did not appeal the November 1999 rating decision that assigned the effective date of January 25, 1999 and that decision became final. 38 U.S.C.A. § 7105; 38 C.F.R. § 3.104(a). Where a decision assigning an effective date is final, only a request for revision based on CUE can result in the assignment of an earlier effective date. See Rudd v. Nicholson, 20 Vet. App. 296, 299-300 (2006). Hence, the allegations of CUE are inextricably intertwined with the earlier effective date issue on appeal, and both issues must be adequately addressed prior to final adjudication of the veteran's claim for an effective date prior to January 25, 1999 for the grant of service connection for PTSD. See Harris v. Derwinski, 1 Vet. App. 180 (1991). Accordingly, the case is REMANDED for the following: 1. The RO should adjudicate the CUE claim and notify the veteran of the decision and of her appellate rights. If the CUE claim is denied and the veteran files a timely notice of disagreement, the RO should issue an appropriate statement of the case (SOC) and notify the veteran that the matter will be before the Board only if a timely substantive appeal is submitted. 2. The RO should then readjudicate the earlier effective date claim for the grant of service connection for PTSD, considering the determination in the CUE claim. If the effective date claim remains denied, the RO should issue an appropriate supplemental SOC and give the veteran the opportunity to respond. The case should then be returned to the Board, if in order, for further review. The appellant has the right to submit additional evidence and argument on the matter the Board has remanded. Kutscherousky v. West, 12 Vet. App. 369 (1999). This claim must be afforded expeditious treatment. The law requires that all claims that are remanded by the Board for additional development or other appropriate action must be handled in an expeditious manner. _________________________________________________ George R. Senyk Veterans Law Judge, Board of Veterans' Appeals Under 38 U.S.C.A. § 7252 (West 2002), only a decision of the Board is appealable to the United States Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims. This remand is in the nature of a preliminary order and does not constitute a decision of the Board on the merits of your appeal. 38 C.F.R. § 20.1100(b) (2007). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MARINEVET Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Accrding to Wikipedia a writ of mandamus or simply mandamus, which means "we command" in Latin, is the name of one of the prerogative writs in the common law, and is issued by a superior court to compel a lower court or a government officer to perform mandatory or purely ministerial duties correctly. What is a Writ of Mandanus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurryupnwait Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Wings My claim was at the AMC for close to two and half years. I do believe it would still be there, if I did not fly out to Washington DC in Oct 2007, picked up a copy of my c file and got an IME from DR. Bash. I met him at the BVA office and he read thru my c file and gave me a physical exam. Then, I finally got in touch with a VSO in Washington DC, not mine, he went searching for my claim and found it in a store room covered with dust. The next day when I talked to him he told me that the AMC had done me a big disservice, actually his wording was much more graphic. After that, I got the phone numbers of several VA officials and I started calling them routinely. After about a month of hounding the top brass, they farmed my claim out to a contract rater. The decision was made in Nov 2007. It was a lowball decision, but at least the claim was out of the AMC. I do believe that AMC has your claim and they may or may not make the final decision, I do think they will develop it, but they are notoriously slow. I would stay on top of any claim I had at the AMC. Happy Trails Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadIt.com Elder Wings Posted November 16, 2008 Author HadIt.com Elder Share Posted November 16, 2008 Wings My claim was at the AMC for close to two and half years. I do believe it would still be there, if I did not fly out to Washington DC in Oct 2007, picked up a copy of my c file and got an IME from DR. Bash. I met him at the BVA office and he read thru my c file and gave me a physical exam. Then, I finally got in touch with a VSO in Washington DC, not mine, he went searching for my claim and found it in a store room covered with dust. The next day when I talked to him he told me that the AMC had done me a big disservice, actually his wording was much more graphic. After that, I got the phone numbers of several VA officials and I started calling them routinely. After about a month of hounding the top brass, they farmed my claim out to a contract rater. The decision was made in Nov 2007. It was a lowball decision, but at least the claim was out of the AMC. I do believe that AMC has your claim and they may or may not make the final decision, I do think they will develop it, but they are notoriously slow. I would stay on top of any claim I had at the AMC. Happy Trails Paul Thanks Paul, Since the 1st part of the remand order is purely a legal matter, they should be able to do this at the AMC. If they grant this issue, then I have won the CUE, and the second part of the remand order will prolly take more time. I haven't ever used a VSO, but maybe now is the time to find one in the DC area. In any case, I'll try to make enough noise until I can get a name and tel. number, some consistent contact person would be great, but we know the VA all too well. ~Wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurryupnwait Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) Thanks Paul, Since the 1st part of the remand order is purely a legal matter, they should be able to do this at the AMC. If they grant this issue, then I have won the CUE, and the second part of the remand order will prolly take more time. I haven't ever used a VSO, but maybe now is the time to find one in the DC area. In any case, I'll try to make enough noise until I can get a name and tel. number, some consistent contact person would be great, but we know the VA all too well. ~Wings Wings Dean Vorgey is the name of the VSO that helped me, even though he was not my POA, I told him how long my claim had been there and he said he did n t care if he did nt have the POA and he got my claim moving thru the system again. His office is in the same bldg as the AMC, American Legion, telephone number 202 530 9142 or 41 or 40 or 43. One is his direct line, but I can not remember which one. Fax 202 530 0126 This link may help you find contact numbers AMC Happy Trails Paul Edited November 17, 2008 by hurryupnwait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaf Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 You're all probably sick of hearing our story about our experience with the AMC, but if you believe that "expeditious" is an enforceable Board directive, you are going to be disappointed. We were at the AMC since October 2005 until we finally filed a writ of mandamus request to the Court in April 2008, after the Board tried to remand again to the AMC in March 2008 (for the second time). It's still pending, and we finally got some movement, so the Court's monitoring the situation put a stick of dynamite under the AMC's collective butt... In a nutshell, we filed an appeal to the Board in 1994. C & P exams were ordered in 1995, 1998 and 1999. We didn't hear anything until the Board issued its first remand back to the VARO in 2001-- the VARO did nothing. In 2003, the Board re-issued the same remand back to the VARO -- the VARO did nothing but order another C & P examination. In 2005, the Board re-issued the remand again, only this time to the AMC. The AMC did nothing. The Board attempted to re-remand it again to the AMC this past March, when we finally had enough and asked for the writ. It is not a complicated procedure, and as loathe as the Court is to get involved with VA adjudication issues, it did call "the agency" on the carpet in a nice way and told them to get moving, filing reports every 30 days, etc. We just received the SSOC from the AMC and it's a denial, of course, but so full of holes you can drive a tank through it. They list evidence we sent and never discuss it in the decision, they don't list evidence we sent and don't discuss it in the decision, or they cherry-pick evidence listed for aspects of it that favor a denial, and disregard any discussion of the evidence in my husband's favor. So, the response is about three inches high that includes evidence that they're going to receive all over again, complete with all the legal precedents, statutes, etc., that they've totally disregarded. However, this time, we're also copying the Board and the Court. At least there's movement, and if the Board supports the AMC's decision, we'll move on to the Court where we can get an attorney. We're expecting a dismissal of the writ as being moot any day now, which is about the most a veteran can hope for. So, you see, you can be at the AMC for years and years -- don't give the AMC more time to rate a claim than you would wait for the Board to review your appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phone call to AMC sez they have my claim and is "before a rating specialist"
Phone call to VARO sez they don't have it.
When I read my BVA Remand, I am VERY confused as to who has jurisdiction, who has it, where is it going, etc?
Tell me what you read from the remand found here http://www.va.gov/vetapp08/files4/0828378.txt
Citation Nr: 0828378
Decision Date: 08/21/08 Archive Date: 09/02/08
DOCKET NO. 06-33 573 ) DATE
)
)
On appeal from the
Department of Veterans Affairs Regional Office in Oakland,
California
THE ISSUE
Entitlement to an effective date prior to January 25, 1999
for the grant of service connection for post-traumatic stress
disorder (PTSD).
ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD
M. Sorisio, Associate Counsel
INTRODUCTION
The appellant is a veteran who served on active duty from
October 1980 to November 1986. This matter is before the
Board of Veterans' Appeals (Board) on appeal from a January
2005 rating decision of the San Diego, California Department
of Veterans Affairs (VA) Regional Office (RO) that denied an
effective date prior to January 25, 1999 for the grant of
service connection for PTSD. The veteran’s claims file is
now in the jurisdiction of the Oakland, California RO.
The appeal is REMANDED to the RO via the Appeals Management
Center (AMC), in Washington, DC. VA will notify the
appellant if further action on her part is required.
REMAND
In a June 2008 submission to the Board, the veteran alleged
that the RO committed clear and unmistakable error (CUE) in
an August 1988 administrative decision that found that she
had a dishonorable period of service from October 13, 1984 to
November 21, 1986. Specifically, she argued that the finding
that she had a dishonorable period of service and that a
failure to notify her of the August 1988 decision were CUE.
A review of the record indicates that she has previously
raised similar arguments; however, the RO has not adequately
addressed the veteran's allegations of CUE in the August 1988
administrative decision. While the veteran indicated that
she was waiving initial review of the CUE claim by the RO,
the veteran is unable to waive such review as the Board does
not currently have jurisdiction over a CUE claim. 38 C.F.R.
§§ 20.101, 20.200.
Notably, the veteran's effective date claim is a
"freestanding" claim; she did not appeal the November 1999
rating decision that assigned the effective date of January
25, 1999 and that decision became final. 38 U.S.C.A. § 7105;
38 C.F.R. § 3.104(a). Where a decision assigning an
effective date is final, only a request for revision based on
CUE can result in the assignment of an earlier effective
date. See Rudd v. Nicholson, 20 Vet. App. 296, 299-300
(2006). Hence, the allegations of CUE are inextricably
intertwined with the earlier effective date issue on appeal,
and both issues must be adequately addressed prior to final
adjudication of the veteran's claim for an effective date
prior to January 25, 1999 for the grant of service connection
for PTSD. See Harris v. Derwinski, 1 Vet. App. 180 (1991).
Accordingly, the case is REMANDED for the following:
1. The RO should adjudicate the CUE claim
and notify the veteran of the decision and
of her appellate rights. If the CUE claim
is denied and the veteran files a timely
notice of disagreement, the RO should
issue an appropriate statement of the case
(SOC) and notify the veteran that the
matter will be before the Board only if a
timely substantive appeal is submitted.
2. The RO should then readjudicate the
earlier effective date claim for the grant
of service connection for PTSD,
considering the determination in the CUE
claim. If the effective date claim
remains denied, the RO should issue an
appropriate supplemental SOC and give the
veteran the opportunity to respond. The
case should then be returned to the Board,
if in order, for further review.
The appellant has the right to submit additional evidence and
argument on the matter the Board has remanded. Kutscherousky
v. West, 12 Vet. App. 369 (1999). This claim must be
afforded expeditious treatment. The law requires that all
claims that are remanded by the Board for additional
development or other appropriate action must be handled in an
expeditious manner.
_________________________________________________
George R. Senyk
Veterans Law Judge, Board of Veterans' Appeals
Under 38 U.S.C.A. § 7252 (West 2002), only a decision of the
Board is appealable to the United States Court of Appeals for
Veterans Claims. This remand is in the nature of a
preliminary order and does not constitute a decision of the
Board on the merits of your appeal. 38 C.F.R. § 20.1100(b)
(2007).
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