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Confused With Latest C&p Exam

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4MR05C

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Hi all,

I'm new to this website as a member; but I've been here many times to read up on stuff in regards to my claim. I have a question that I'm hoping some of the more experienced members here can help me with, because I'm concerned that my last exam, which was yesterday (yes, a Saturday) was not done correctly, or by a competent doctor.

A little background first.... I have filed my first claim (since separating from the Army in 1984) in May of 2012. There has yet to be any decision on my case.

I have been to 5 previous C&P, none of which have been on a Saturday. This was at the local QTC offices here in Atlanta. This exam was for my claim for a secondary condition of my ankles (they are painful and occasionally, I limp from not being able to put a lot of weight on them.) The primary condition is that I had a shattered sesamoid bone totally removed from my right foot (its like a ball bearing at the big toe joint) which was not replaced with anything. Over the years, I have developed a way of walking that takes the pressure off that joint by walking on the OUTSIDE of my foot and shifting my weight to the other foot whenever possible, which I contend has caused my ankle problems on both sides.

Now, on to yesterday's exam: First problem: I brought in a pair of flip flops that I have been using this summer to walk in, she refused to exam them, saying that "those are going to do that." Well, no, cause it shows a clear wear pattern on the outside of my shoe.

Second problem, she wanted to see the shoes I had just taken off, well, these shoes are relatively new as I bought them last winter/spring and have not worn them much, she looked at them (entirely disregarding me saying "I haven't worn those much" and said "There's no wear pattern here." Well, duh, I haven't worn them much!

Third problem: When she asked if I had been to doctors about this, I forgot that I had been to see the podiatrist at the VA, for my foot issues (I don't think he made any notations on my ankles, he was more interested in coming up with a custom prosthetic for the bottom of my foot.) that when she asked me if I had gone to the doctor to see about my ankle, I said "No." to which she repeatedly said to me "So they hurt but not enough to go to the doctor?" (in an incredulous tone). My ankles have an ache damn near constantly, but not sharp stabbing pains all the time AND I have a VERY high pain threshold... (I had stitches put in my hand last year and the doctor hadn't numbed my my hand properly, so for at least a couple stitches, I felt the needle go in...and out and in and out - I didn't punch the doctor or anything.. I just gritted my teeth and let him finish. He even said that he was impressed that I could tolerate such pain). so, back to the lady doctor, she rudely cut me off when i tried to tell her that I have a high pain threshold and started scribbling on her notes (my medical records were NOWHERE in sight, btw) while I was trying to talk to her.

Fourth problem: She used her hands to rotate my bare feet around and around, and kept saying "give them to me" to which I explained that she was hurting me so I was resisting her), she just kept insisting that I ""give them" to her and didn't stop trying to twist my feet around.

Fifth problem, Now, I don't know what "repetitve use test" really is, but she never asked me to do any lifting of my heels or standing on my tip toes, she just asked me to walk about 6 feet from the chair I was sitting in to the wall of the exam room and back (three trips total chair to wall, turn, back to chair, and then back to the wall). That as the extent of the repetitive use exam.

Sixth problem, she eyeballed my feet/ankles when she asked me to push them down, wasn't there supposed to be a measurement taken?

Seventh problem: She looked at my feet from the back... while I still had my shoes ON. (isn't there supposed to be an exam from the back with shoes off?

Eighth problem: She did take out the goniometer and measure when she asked me to pull my feet up, and when I did, she asked (again in an incredulous tone) "Can't you get them to go higher?" To which I said "No." Also when she was doing the measuring, (the one and only time that she actually measured anything) she measured my left foot from the outside ankle bone and the right foot from the INSIDE (with out adjusting the alignment goniometer).

Ninth problem: She asked me how my ankles affected my work to which I relied that I was a student and ddn't stand on my feet all day but I had to walk arcross campus and that I had stairs to climb, but I also said, most of the day, I sit (which is the truth). Then she asked "Well, how did it affect your previous job" to which I said "Well, I was a paralegal" and she jumped in with a "So, you sat then too." And I saw her mark a BIG "O:" with a line through it (I'm assuming this was for how my ankles affected my ability to work).

Tenth problem: She's a gynecologist!!!! How is a gynecologist supposed to rate an orthopedic problem (and no, she has never been qualified as an expert witness or anything like that for ortho, I checked on-line.)

I did have x-rays taken and the x-ray tech asked me if I had had a recent injury to my ankles because they looked swollen to her, and I said, "No, that's just the way they are, all the time."

So, now that you've read this small book... what can I do to make sure my claim is done correctly and that I am examined fairly? (Which I do not feel happened here.)

Do I even have grounds for a complaint? Should I complain now or wait until I get a decision of some sort? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Btw, I found this online as a guide on how to test ROm in ankles: https://www.med.unc.edu/surclerk/medselect/resources/suggested-readings-for-subspecialty-clinics/rheumatology/Foot%20exam%20reivew_11-4-09.pdf

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Wow, that sounds totally insane! I didn't know we were entitled to ANY further dental care after getting out.

lol... the rumors of my not wearing my own shoes have been greatly exaggerated! :wink:

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http://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/resources/publications/IB-10-442_Dental_Benefits_for_Veterans_4_13.pdf

Apply for dental care within
180 days of discharge or release
(under conditions other than
dishonorable) from a period of
active duty of 90 days or more
during the Persian Gulf War era.
One-time dental care if your DD214
certificate of discharge does not indicate
that a complete dental examination and
all appropriate dental treatment had been
rendered prior to discharge.*
Class II
IB

It doesn't seem like that should have taken years to never get granted....

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Huh! Well, I dunno what my DD214 says, but I'll certainly check!

And, it SHOULD have been granted! So sorry you and your husband had to go through this!

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http://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/resources/publications/IB-10-442_Dental_Benefits_for_Veterans_4_13.pdf

Apply for dental care within
180 days of discharge or release
(under conditions other than
dishonorable) from a period of
active duty of 90 days or more
during the Persian Gulf War era.
One-time dental care if your DD214
certificate of discharge does not indicate
that a complete dental examination and
all appropriate dental treatment had been
rendered prior to discharge.*
Class II
IB

It doesn't seem like that should have taken years to never get granted....

Ok so I read pdf you linked to and I don't qualify. I didn't serve during the Persian Gulf war.

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Okay.. I have diagnosed you... I am not a orthopedic doctor, but I do have a Bachelor's in Psychology and Speech Communication and a Master's in Speech -- which is dang close by VA standards for C&Ps...

https://nwfootankle.com/foot-health/drill/3-Problems/34-Sesamoiditis

Sesamoiditis may cause you to limp or walk on the outside aspect of your foot to help remove pressure from your painful involved area. Gait changes are a problematic compensation for this health problem, as they may cause pain and disability in one of your other joints, such as your knee, hip, or low back joints or some other part of your foot. You should always seek treatment as soon as possible if you suspect you have sesamoiditis.

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