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    • C&P Examiner Pushed Me...FORCED
      If you feel your C&P was not evaluated correctly or the Examiner did not meet the qualifications you can request a New C&P from RO. They usually set you up another exam   However it may take longer. jmo .....................Buck
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      Questions regarding EED? Vet gets denied claim for  SC 1997...Refiles claim, 1998 vet gets Service Connected  but 0% . Now in 2001 vet refiles claim and is increase to 50%...  (from 0% to 50%)  2003 vet files for increase and has C&P  after the c&p...c&p examiner sends VA letter saying this vet should not been S.C. because he never had any of this disability while in service  or any medical records showing documentation he was seen for it while in service.and furthermore vet was given an exit exam  from military service and was consider healthy and not what he is claiming .  I recommend this Veteran be reduced  at 0%compensation and with draw his Service connection Completely......Sign Dr  xxxxxxx  30 years experienced Medical Dr.  2003 Vet gets letter of Proposal to Reduce him, vet files NOD Request DRO Hearing at his RO, vet goes to his DRO Hearing  with new &material evidence, and letter  from Private qualified Dr receives a favorable  IMO  & letter from Voc rehab declaring this vet unfeasible to retrain because of his S.C. Disability, vet gets notarized lay statements from family and friends...and Veterans own statement! DRO Agrees with this Veteran and sees his disability in person, and initiates an expedition and ask VSO to file TDIU Claim for veteran and is awarded an 10% & 60%  increase to his disability  and with a 90%combined increase  using the  CFR Extra scheduler (b)  Vet is Awarded IU with P&T  and no future exams schedule this disability is of chronic and of nature  an increase is warranted and not  decrease  the examiner that proposed a decrease will not be warranted,  veteran has proved his SERVICE CONNECTED Disability  and  it goes on and state what te DRO used as evidence and with a rating specialist at his hearing  it is Obvious this Veterans disability is REAL. Question  they gave the Vet EED Back to when he filed for increase in 1998 the year he was Service connected? instead from the increase dating back to 2001? ??? After a S.C. is established  don't the EED begin at that date  even if a 0%?? Altho they have is 50% rating at  effective date1998! ...Shouldn't they have went back to 1998  the date the vet was Service Connected?  
    • PTSD Denied NSC - Schizophrenia NSC
      Berta - Here is the rating decision.   We will accept the disabilities granted for his battle wounds, but disagreement is with the PTSD and Schizophrenia being declined as service connected.   They were completely mute on the Agent Orange symptoms we claimed.   The C&P exam performed in April was not included with the VA papers.   I don't know what the Examiner said about his physical and mental condition.   Need help on this: Do I indicate acceptance of the 40% SC ratings decided on his battle wounds and also indicate we're filing a NOD with the NSC decisions for PTSD and Schizophrenia on the same "Statement in Support of Claim"? I need to get an expert involved for our NOD and a new claim for Agent Orange since they completely overlooked that -- A rep at American Legion wants to take it on.   Do I go this route or go to an attorney? Will QTC give me a copy of his exam?  Or do I need to go through the Request for VA treatment records again through Saint Louis Records? I need to get him another dr exam to show evidence of his current Agent Orange symptoms.  Should i get an IMO ? I want to make sure I am chosen as his Fiduciary -  there is a form for this that I presume I send in on line. Rating Decision 5-16-16.pdf
    • C&P Examiner Pushed Me...FORCED
      understand totally i was treated the same way.  does anyone know anything about the c & p ortho doctors in san antonio tx
    • C&P Examiner Pushed Me...FORCED
      understand totally i was treated the same way.  does anyone know anything about the c & p ortho doctors in san antonio tx
    • Sleep Apnea Claim
      Original poster  the VA Should give you a C-PAP to use and all the equipment  hoses.Mask..you need to use distilled water. Anyone that has Sleep Apnea /OSA  needs to be using a C-Pap/Bi-Pap machine. For some  reasons the VA is turtle slow on getting VietNam Veterans their C-File....but some do get their C-File within 3 /4 months. I guess the C-file for us Vietnam Vets got lost in the mail room.  Next Month (June) will be a year for me and I requested it twice during this last year...and not a word from them..I do have the greencard receipts I need my C-file bad  I wonder if it has been didtized and on CD?  Could I make an Unexpected Visit to RO? And  ask for it that way? jmo ....Buck
    • Increase of MRSA from 0%-? unknown, having c&p exam on tuesday
      Do they go back to the date of the original claim? im just curious, ive had this infection, since i was in the army, and it was and is horrible, losing jobs, and such. thanks in advance
    • Osteoarthritis in right knee
      Never say never, but here is your dilemma. In order to get service connected you need either a presumptive condition, which osteoarthritis is not a presumptive condition.Or, you need the following: A service related event or condition, a bridge from that service related event or condition to a current diagnosis that is severe enough to be determined to be disabling. So, if you can get a private doctor to fill out a disability benefits questionnaire  VA FORM 21-0960M-9 then you might have a shot. It would be very helpful if the doctor inserted remarks that stated he believes the condition is directly related to your military service. Even then I wouldn't be surprised if it was denied. As you stated the osteoarthritis is mild. Mild is usually not considered disabling, but all they can say is no.  One other unrelated point, but one worth mentioning. You cannot receive compensation pay and retirement pay at the same time. For example, let's say you get $1100 a month in retirement pay, and $200 a month in compensation. Then you get $900 a month in retirement pay and $200 a month in comp for a total of $1100. The benefit being the $200 is tax free. Now, if you can get the $200 comp as CRDP or CRSC then you could get both the retirement pay and the comp at the same time for a total of $1300 a month.
    • My C&P Results and why i'm disturbed
      In 2012 I EAS from the USMC and began a career in Law Enforcement. Like many of us I started the process of VA disability claims where I had issues which nagged me. Shoulder, knee, and back. I had 2 shoulder surgeries while active on my left shoulder and have been babying my right shoulder due to inflammation issues and restricted ROM.    I met with the VA in Dec 2013 for my initial C&P examination where I explained the symptoms of my issues and conducted a ROM examination. I was provided with a 10% rating for Patello Femoral Syndrome in my Left and Right knee. 10% for my right shoulder and 10% for c-spine bulging disc. This is the minimum rating for pain.    I just recently started a new claim for an increase and was examined a couple of days ago. My initial exam was as follows Knee  Date 2013 a. Right knee flexion Select where flexion ends (normal endpoint is 140 degrees):  [X] 100 Select where objective evidence of painful motion begins: [ ] No objective evidence of painful motion  [X] 80 b. Right knee extension Select where extension ends: [X] 0 or any degree of hyperextension (check this box if there is no limitation of extension) Select where objective evidence of painful motion begins: [X] No objective evidence of painful motion No limitation of extension c. Left knee flexion Select where flexion ends  [X] 90 Select where objective evidence of painful motion begins: [ ] No objective evidence of painful motion [X] 90 No limitation of extension Shoulder a. Right shoulder flexion Select where flexion ends (normal endpoint is 180 degrees):[X] 60  b. Right shoulder abduction Select where abduction ends (normal endpoint is 180 degrees): [ ] 0 [X] 5 Based on the above, I should be at a higher rating for both shoulder and knee. But, I was provided the minimum of 10% for pain. My most recent exam is as follows.    Knee Date 2016 Left Knee --------- [ ] All normal [X] Abnormal or outside of normal range [ ] Unable to test (please explain) [ ] Not indicated (please explain) Flexion (0 to 140): 40 to 55 degrees Extension (140 to 0): 55 to 40 degrees   Shoulder  a. Initial range of motion Right Shoulder -------------- [ ] All Normal [X] Abnormal or outside of normal range [ ] Unable to test (please explain) [ ] Not indicated (please explain) Flexion (0 to 180): 0 to 70 degrees Abduction (0 to 180): 0 to 40 degrees External rotation   I don't know why I was provided the bare minimum. But it is extremely disturbing. I hope they make things right by increasing my percentage this time around. I may have to stop working because I am constantly out due to issues with my knees and shoulder.   

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Personality Disorder Discharge

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Anyone who is getting discharges under Personality Disorder Needs to contact Russell Terry at (909) 494-6218 Grand Central Phone Number. He is in charge of the Operation Heal and also is head of the iraq war veterans organization, afghanistan war veterans.

http://iraqwarveterans.org/ webmaster@iraqwarveterans

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will pass that on!

PD for Iraq vets--- dejavu to Nam vets---all over again---

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i am really compelled to add my cents on htis issue again. if you or someone you know has this character of service, this phone call is very important. i have seen hundreds of dd214's, both from the viet nam era and others more recent, and i recall seeing one maybe two of these.

22,000 people with this character of service is very, VERY fishy. by the way, the person or persons that i met with this character truly deserved it. the one most vivid in my memory was a service member who burned his girlfriends child with lit cigarettes intentionally. his girlfriend was also a service member and she reported him.

this is the type of person who should receive this deal breaker!

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Many Vietnam vets in the waning years of the war were exposed to very cheap heroin. Many became addicted. Most were given undesireable discharges based on misconduct and personality disorders. At the airbase where I was at during the last few months of my tour in Vietnam in 1970 probably 25% of the troops were snorting this cheap heroin believing it was "coke". At first the Army pretended to treat the addicts. Then they just started kicking them out. I would bet that almost all these troops had never taken heroin before being exposed to the cheap stuff in Vietnam. The CIA at the time was helping to transport the stuff from Laos. The CIA helped to addict thousands of Vietnam vets in order to make Laotian war lords and Thai war lords rich and probably to make themselves rich.

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Yeah and the Army after the Korean War was kicking out soldiers for all sorts of reasons-

the Army was over booked with enlisted and they used creativity on some of those BAd paper

Discharges and Court Martials-to reduce their personnel numbers-

what a scam

Bad paper and character of discharge and phony baloney court martials can be overcome.*

It all gets back to those bad RE codes too-

* see Attard Vs Secretary of the NAvy, HArvey Vs. Secretary of the NAvy, Heiler V Williams (civil action against BCMR) Bird Vs. Sec of the Navy-

Hard to do but persistence -as always-------pays off.

Iraq is becoming sameo sameo to Vietnam-it makes me sick.

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I am telling you, this organization has been already doing great things. Terry Russell is the founder and he has already helped fix some of these erroneous discharges. I personally think its a way to discredit those who are coming back with a bad label. With PTSD claims becoming a big deal in the VA, I personally think its a way of hoping to badly manage the costs that the government is and should have to take care of the veterans. Think what all these guys and ladies coming back from iraq would cost the VA and the military in benefits if each one just had one PTSD claim each. It's getting ugly.

FYI this organization is coming to NYS and I am going to be a rep/advocate. More to come.

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It all comes down to laziness, when I was in service I saw many many people get OTH (other than honorable) Discharges. The Legal people would call the individual in the office and explain their rights to them and tell them they had two choices, waive the board and be out of the military in a matter of days or if they wanted to exercise their right to the board it would take a matter of months. What option do you think most choose? 75% would have received a honorable or general discharge had they went infront of a board.

It all came back to me when I

at the 5 minute mark in the video he says he was given a choice and mislead. Same thing I watched over and over in my 28 years of active duty. The individual waives their rights and it cuts all the red tape out of the picture and the member is discharged within days. Thats what its all about, laziness to properly process a individual, get rid of them faster and of course save some money. Any individual who is sick mentally is not going to be in their right mind to make such a decision. But it happens everyday. While on active duty I grew to despise JAG Officers and LN's (Navy's enlisted version of a paralegal called Legalmen) for this practice. Criminals I had no quams about, they dont deserve shit or VA benefits, but all the others getting screwed out of their benefits, this is a shame, down and dirty out right trickery on the part of DOD to throw away troops and not pay them a cent for their service to our country. JESUS what I wouldn't do to see congressman and senators having to be ruled by the same regs as military personnel, do they get a offset if they are disabled,? NO. Are they required to pay 50% of their retirement to a cheating x wife, no USFSPA, you know who is responsible for USFSPA? Senator Dianne Fineswine....................................................................wel

now I've raised my blood pressure at 0819 in the morning I have to go take my little yellow happy pills

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I would bet that most vets who started to suffer PTSD symptoms after Vietnam and still had time to serve in the Army were probably kicked out on PD discharges via AR635-212.

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I received an email from two organizations. The approximate money the DOD/VA is trying to save by doing this insanely dishonor to our military personnel is somewhere around 12.5 Billion dollars. If you watch the video as well, I really would have gotten a BCD discharge when the government told me that I owed the military 3K or 10K because of it.

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When i got out of the military, at Fort Dix New Jersey, there was a huge room full of people. The guy in charge in the front said "Everyone with an Honorable discharge stand up against this far wall" and so 6 people out of 45-50 got up. Then they said "everyone with Medical discharge up against the other wall" about 10 people got up. Than they said " everyone else with less than honorable ie general or other up against the far wall" and everyone else got up. The ratio was astounding.

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Spike-has this guy tied up with Edwin Crosby?

In our tapes of past shows at SVR Stardust Radio he gives quite a talk on Spin Codes and such and how the Mil used them for erroneous bad paper.

He is available for anyone on the taped archive- it is at SVR June 20th or June 27, 2007

Check this put all-it is compelling and necessary info for ALL vets to have.

http://stardustradio.com/

Click on the red blinking light, then click on SVR on the left and then click on the archive date and the tape of the show will come up.

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http://www.iraqwarveterans.org This organization is the only one that I know of who brought this to light. I am going to post the abc you tube video below. You have to listen to it. Bob Filner himself, indicated to someone I know is a very reputable person that VA does not stand for Veterans Affairs. It stands for Veteran Adversary. I will tell you what. I only participate in organizations that are standing up actively to help veterans. I won't tell you something I don't know for true, and I will tell you if I don't know.

I am part of more organizations than I can speak of here. If you want more information contact me.

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Oh yeah by the way contact CSPAN any way you can and let them know you want the congressional hearing with Towne and the Personality Disorder issue broadcasted on tv. Only we can push them to put it on, we want to see what is said, they want ratings, so its a win win, to hear what the house and senate have to say about this issue.

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Spike,

This is really a good thread to keep going. I watched about the first three minutes of the video. It was loading really slow. I did get a good idea of what was going on. Is this being shown on TV or is there a DVD,

T think the blame should be focused on the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association as well as any branch of the military that does not expose the quack and spineless doctors who make the diagnosis of personality disorder at the time of discharge when it is not supported by the facts. These doctors should be identified and disciplined.

Having been diagnosed with a personality disorder and discharged and knowing several other veterans personally who were also treated in the same manner I found that this is a problem with individual doctors and the changing perceptions of psychiatric disabilities.

The VA is not as bad as you might think. Case in point, not only I but the other veterans I mentioned eventually found treatment and doctors in the VA system who went to bat for them and had the personality disorder diagnoses changed and were eventually given service connectable diagnoses and compensation from the VA.

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My DD 214 - Code 460 - Emotional Instability.

When I couldn't handle the abuse from the Navy anymore and ask Dr. C. to assist me with an early discharge, this is what I find that they gave me.

If I hadn't been taking Librium for my nerves and Cafergot for headaches, I would believe some of this B.S.

I had and have the copies of a " Reguest for Transfer" from this duty station, but I couldn't hang on for it to come through. I would have had to wait until July to go to Hampton.

Instead I was dishcarged in May 1964 with an Honorable Discharge by mean of " Unsuitability".

I believe that before the service labels anyone with a Personality Disorder or even a C&P, they should have to administer one of these test.

MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) or MMPI (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory) .

I don't even believe these test are that accurate, but it may be a start.

Always,

Josephine

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I have to say that I believe the personality disorder discharge is just about the military saving money. Same goes for the VA when they try and change a mental disorder into a personality disorder by distorting the facts of a veteran's claim. The military and the VA know what they are doing and why they are doing it.

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I believe my first C&P, which was the TRUE ME , the VA did not like the PhD changing my diagnosis to Anxiety with Depression. His C&P may being a " More Likely than Not" probably would have service connected me.

I have been diagnosed and treated with medication for the same illness for 43 years, " Anxiety", and this being post medical records from 4 different doctors over that many years. Beginning in 1965

Librium for nerves in service and Cafergot for headaches by Dr. C. February 1964.

In my opinion, It appears that it would be a little difficult to state, " This veterans primary symptoms " appears " to be those of a " Personality Disorder" and then give her an Axis 1 of Anxiety. This would be the second C&P by those two quack Psychiatrist, by changing my military and post medical records.

With the VA anything can happen.

I continue to fight this and post on line, just in the event, that my post will be of benefit to others reading this site.

Always,

Josephine

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All,

This kind of stuff shouldn't be happening. Berta, I am already in the midst of sending out letters to our senators and congress representatives, because there is a large majority of our population that are veterans. I'm urging them to put pressure on the people who have pushed this disrespectful way of saving dollars and cents from taking care of the responsibility to our vets.

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