Sc For Cancer. Presumtive?

[Doc John]

I was told by my VSO that some cancers are "presumptive" for service connection.

I had cancer surgery in 2000 for adenoid cystic carcinoma (a.k.a. cylindroma) , along with chemotherapy and radiation. My face is disfigured and I need physical therapy on my jaw 20-30 times a year so that I can open my mouth and chew solid food.

I am in remission but have been assured by my oncologist that metastases will occur eventually in my lungs, and it will kill me if I don't die waiting for it.

I searched hadit.com and found this decision from the VA::: http://www.va.gov/vetapp93/files2/9315426.txt

If I could get it, I would appreciate some expert VA advice from the Elders, VA employees or Berta, who helped this widow originally.

Thanks,

Doc John

[RockyA1911]

Berta,

AO presumptive for cancers does not have to be "Soft Tissue Sarcoma" but STS is one of the 11 AO presumptive diseases......however they also list 25 cancers that are under Soft Tissue Sarcoma.

I have Larynx Cancer and it is AO presumptive under another one of the 11 under Respiratory Cancers. It is no way Soft Tissue Sarcoma and I was a Marine near the DMZ in 1968-1969.

Please don't get hung up on the AO presumed cancers being only Soft Tissue Sarcoma as there are many other AO presumptive cancers that are not, such as basil cell carcinoma and Squamous Cell Carcinoma which is the only type of cancer there is in the throat and larynx.

Rule of Thumb is if it is listed below then it is AO presumptive. For example DMII. There are a bunch of secondary conditions related to DMII such as periphial Neuropathy due to DMII, even though Periphial Neuropathy was not diagnosed 1 year after service in Vietnam it was not the cause of AO. DMII was the cause of AO and then the Periphial Neuropathy was caused by the DMII as a secondary condition.

e) Disease associated with exposure to certain herbicide agents. If

a veteran was exposed to an herbicide agent during active military,

naval, or air service, the following diseases shall be service-connected

if the requirements of Sec. 3.307(a)(6) are met even though there is no

record of such disease during service, provided further that the

rebuttable presumption provisions of Sec. 3.307(d) are also satisfied.

Chloracne or other acneform disease consistent with chloracne

Type 2 diabetes (also known as Type II diabetes mellitus or adult-onset

diabetes)

Hodgkin's disease

Chronic lymphocytic leukemia

Multiple myeloma

Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma

Acute and subacute peripheral neuropathy

Porphyria cutanea tarda

Prostate cancer

Respiratory cancers (cancer of the lung, bronchus, larynx, or trachea)

Soft-tissue sarcoma (other than osteosarcoma, chondrosarcoma, Kaposi's

sarcoma, or mesothelioma)

Note 1: The term ``soft-tissue sarcoma'' includes the following:

Adult fibrosarcoma

Dermatofibrosarcoma protuberans

Malignant fibrous histiocytoma

Liposarcoma

Leiomyosarcoma

Epithelioid leiomyosarcoma (malignant leiomyoblastoma)

Rhabdomyosarcoma

Ectomesenchymoma

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Angiosarcoma (hemangiosarcoma and lymphangiosarcoma)

Proliferating (systemic) angioendotheliomatosis

Malignant glomus tumor

Malignant hemangiopericytoma

Synovial sarcoma (malignant synovioma)

Malignant giant cell tumor of tendon sheath

Malignant schwannoma, including malignant schwannoma with

rhabdomyoblastic differentiation (malignant Triton tumor), glandular and

epithelioid malignant schwannomas

Malignant mesenchymoma

Malignant granular cell tumor

Alveolar soft part sarcoma

Epithelioid sarcoma

Clear cell sarcoma of tendons and aponeuroses

Extraskeletal Ewing's sarcoma

Congenital and infantile fibrosarcoma

Malignant ganglioneuroma

Note 2: For purposes of this section, the term acute and subacute

peripheral neuropathy means transient peripheral neuropathy that appears

within weeks or months of exposure to an herbicide agent and resolves

within two years of the date of onset.

[Doc John]

Berta,

AO presumptive for cancers does not have to be "Soft Tissue Sarcoma" but STS is one of the 11 AO presumptive diseases......however they also list 25 cancers that are under Soft Tissue Sarcoma.

I have Larynx Cancer and it is AO presumptive under another one of the 11 under Respiratory Cancers. It is no way Soft Tissue Sarcoma and I was a Marine near the DMZ in 1968-1969.

Please don't get hung up on the AO presumed cancers being only Soft Tissue Sarcoma as there are many other AO presumptive cancers that are not, such as basil cell carcinoma and Squamous Cell Carcinoma which is the only type of cancer there is in the throat and larynx.

Rule of Thumb is if it is listed below then it is AO presumptive. For example DMII. There are a bunch of secondary conditions related to DMII such as periphial Neuropathy due to DMII, even though Periphial Neuropathy was not diagnosed 1 year after service in Vietnam it was not the cause of AO. DMII was the cause of AO and then the Periphial Neuropathy was caused by the DMII as a secondary condition.

e) Disease associated with exposure to certain herbicide agents. If

a veteran was exposed to an herbicide agent during active military,

naval, or air service, the following diseases shall be service-connected

if the requirements of Sec. 3.307(a)(6) are met even though there is no

record of such disease during service, provided further that the

rebuttable presumption provisions of Sec. 3.307(d) are also satisfied.

Chloracne or other acneform disease consistent with chloracne

Type 2 diabetes (also known as Type II diabetes mellitus or adult-onset

diabetes)

Hodgkin's disease

Chronic lymphocytic leukemia

Multiple myeloma

Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma

Acute and subacute peripheral neuropathy

Porphyria cutanea tarda

Prostate cancer

Respiratory cancers (cancer of the lung, bronchus, larynx, or trachea)

Soft-tissue sarcoma (other than osteosarcoma, chondrosarcoma, Kaposi's

sarcoma, or mesothelioma)

Note 1: The term ``soft-tissue sarcoma'' includes the following:

Adult fibrosarcoma

Dermatofibrosarcoma protuberans

Malignant fibrous histiocytoma

Liposarcoma

Leiomyosarcoma

Epithelioid leiomyosarcoma (malignant leiomyoblastoma)

Rhabdomyosarcoma

Ectomesenchymoma

[[Page 243]]

Angiosarcoma (hemangiosarcoma and lymphangiosarcoma)

Proliferating (systemic) angioendotheliomatosis

Malignant glomus tumor

Malignant hemangiopericytoma

Synovial sarcoma (malignant synovioma)

Malignant giant cell tumor of tendon sheath

Malignant schwannoma, including malignant schwannoma with

rhabdomyoblastic differentiation (malignant Triton tumor), glandular and

epithelioid malignant schwannomas

Malignant mesenchymoma

Malignant granular cell tumor

Alveolar soft part sarcoma

Epithelioid sarcoma

Clear cell sarcoma of tendons and aponeuroses

Extraskeletal Ewing's sarcoma

Congenital and infantile fibrosarcoma

Malignant ganglioneuroma

Note 2: For purposes of this section, the term acute and subacute

peripheral neuropathy means transient peripheral neuropathy that appears

within weeks or months of exposure to an herbicide agent and resolves

within two years of the date of onset.

[Doc John]

Thanks for the feedback everyone,

I have been gone since Thanksgiving and I was glad to see the responses on this thread.

My oncologist (cancer doc) said he cannot state that AO "more likely than not" caused my adenoid cystic carcinoma.

I think the advice about seeing an AO expert might be just what I need to follow up on.

If there are any vets from the Vietnam war who had successful claims for exposure on to AO on Okinawa let me know.

DJ

[Pete53]

Doc:

I am pretty sure that Okinawa has been listed as a source for Agent Orange Exposure but I am no expert on this. As I said in earlier Post I wish you the best on this claim and if one Doc won't help there are always others.

I know that in Dallas there is a chemical exposure Doc who helps people get Disability who were exposed to Chemicals. Sorry I don't know his name just that he also does Medical Exams for Employment and my wife saw him 12 years ago.

John Laseter, Ph.D., MT

AccuChem Labs

990 N. Bowser Road Ste 800

Richardson TX 75081

William J. Meggs, M.D.

Room 4W54, Bordy Bldg.

Greenville NC 27858

Kalpana Patel, M.D.

65 Wehrle Dr.

Buffalo NY 14225

David W. Quig, Ph.D.

Doctors Data, Inc.

3755 Illinois Ave.

St. Charles IL 60174

William J. Rea, M.D.

Environmental Health Center - Dallas

8345 Walnut Hill Lane Ste 220

Dallas TX 75231

Aristo Vojdani, Ph.D., MT

Immunosciences Lab., Inc.

8693 Wilshire Ste 200

Beverly Hills CA 90211

I highlighted the Doc in red that I know about.

[Berta]

There is an Okinawa AO claim on remand from the BVA-

and there is great work being done by some of our members here- and me too -to get other VA recognition of AO outside of Vietnam-as presumptive in other vets exposed to AO in Blue Water (7th Fleet etc), Thailand, Guam, Okinawa, Laos,Alaska, Cambodia and even in the lower USA as the new suit against Monsanto reveals.

It will take a herbicide or exposure expert to SC anything not on the AP presumptive list.

were you exposed to anything else in service that is a known carginagenic?

[Doc John]

Thanks to Pete and Berta.

I am now looking for an environmental medicine specialist near my home in St. Petersburg, Fl.

Doc John