Guest allanopie Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 NEWS FROM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE U.S. SENATE COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AFFAIRS CRAIG'S "CHOICE OF REPRESENTATION" FOR VETERANS BILL PICKS UP SUPPORT -- Legislation seeks to overturn 150 year-old prohibition on hiring lawyers Craig's legislation seeks to change a policy prohibiting attorneys from representing veterans -- a policy which began during the Civil War. Image courtesy the U.S. Social Security Administration June 8, 2006 Media contact: Jeff Schrade (202)224-9093 (Washington, DC) Legislation to allow veterans to hire an attorney as they seek benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs picked up strong support Thursday. The positive reaction came during a hearing of the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs. The legislation (S. 2694), sponsored by Chairman Larry Craig (R-Idaho), seeks to overturn a policy begun during the Civil War. Under current law, all 24 million living veterans are prohibited from hiring legal counsel to help them navigate the Veterans Affairs system. It is only after a veteran has spent months and even years exhausting the extensive VA administrative process that the veteran then may retain a lawyer - a process that often takes 3 or more years to complete. "Particularly for veterans of today's All-Volunteer Force, the current paternalistic Civil War-era law is completely outdated. These highly-trained, highly skilled veterans have the ability - and should have the right - to decide for themselves whether to hire a lawyer," Craig said. The Idaho Republican noted that many veterans have written in support of the bill, including one from New Jersey, a decorated disabled military retiree who served in Vietnam. He wrote: "Murderers, rapists and pedophiles can hire an attorney; why are veterans treated as third, yes third class citizens?" Among those who spoke out Thursday in favor of changing the law was former Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims, Donald Ivers, as well as Rick Weidman of the Vietnam Veterans of America and Barton F. Stichman of the National Veterans Legal Services Program. "Freedom to seek counsel of one's choice has long been a hallmark of this nation's system of justice. That those who have given much in defense of that system are denied that freedom in pursuing claims arising out of their service is, at best, highly contradictory," Judge Ivers said. Under current federal laws and court rulings, criminal defendants, illegal aliens, and enemy combatants have the right to have legal counsel. Veterans are the only group which does not enjoy that privilege. "It makes no rational sense to deny them this right," Stichman said. That sentiment was shared by Rick Weidman, who spoke to the committee on behalf of those in his organization. "Vietnam Veterans of America strongly and unreservedly supports S.2694 by convention resolution," Weidman said. "We urge its endorsement by this committee and passage by both houses of Congress." In the House of Representatives, two bills similar to Sen. Craig's have been introduced, one (H.R. 5549) by Rep. Jeff Miller, Chairman of a subcommittee of the House Committee on Veterans' Affairs, and (H.R. 4914) Rep. Lane Evans, the top Democrat on that same committee. Despite the strong support Craig's legislation has received, the Department of Veterans Affairs voiced opposition to the bill during the hearing. That drew a strong rebuke from Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) who is co-sponsoring the bill with Sen. Craig. Other co-sponsors of the bill include Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), who chairs the Appropriations subcommittee on the Military Construction and Veterans Affairs, Jim Jeffords (I-VT), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK). ##### See this story on-line at: http://veterans.senate.gov <http://veterans.senate.gov/> If you want to send Chairman Craig a message, click on: Contact the Veterans' Affairs Committee <http://veterans.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Home> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDGE Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 "an ex parte, non-adversarial system, with VA being obligated to provide all benefits allowable under the law." Well, that's a joke. The DAV should pull their heads out. sledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Memoriam Stretch Posted June 10, 2006 In Memoriam Share Posted June 10, 2006 Here is another angle. §§§§ The Genevase effect was discovered when 38 people each watched the murder of a young New Jersey woman being stabbed repeatedly to dead. Nobody did anything. Experiments revealed that one person witnessing an event would assume responsibility and do something; that when more than one person was involved nothing was done. This was because there was shared responsibility. Oh, I didn't do it, he did it or somebody else did it. VARO BVA BAV VHA AME CAVC C&P Primary Care Urgent Care Mental Health MRI Nexus Current Diagnosis Stressor SMR MOS NEC DOD FOIA VSO's VSR's NPRC (St. Louis-sombody smell smoke) Identity Theft What do these all have in common? They all share in the responsibility of a Single Veterans Claims. Probably left a few out. Lawyer is one of them. This sounds like the Genvase Effect in reverse. All of these, with little screw-ups in the transitions, against or for, one Veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fla_viking Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Dear Fellow Veterans & Friends. In my brief i will complain to the court about the American Legion representig me without my knowleg or consultaton. This would be illegal in teh civ9ilan world. Unless us vets start raising hell about these standard pratices. we will continue to be 3rd class citizens. Terry Higgins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadIt.com Elder john999 Posted June 10, 2006 HadIt.com Elder Share Posted June 10, 2006 Sledge That comment from the DAV was on the joke page of their magazine. No one could actually believe such a statement was made in a serious manner, ha, ha I get it, what a punch line. Non-adversarial...he,he, ha, ha boy that's a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogus Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Strectch makes a very good point about watching and not doing anything. My hat is off to Terry and anyone else on this site who has the ambition to take the VA to court. For some of us this is the only place we can vent our frustations to people that actually have "been there, done that", and that's fine. However, if we as a group actually want to change things we have to take some kind of action - we can fight within the system - but we already know from experience that the system is broken (otherwise we wouldn't have anything to complain about). What we really need to do is come up with a plan as a group to challenge the law that allows the VA to get away with this. I plan on contacting the ACLU later this month. If anyone has any other ideas please let me know. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fla_viking Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Dear Robert You hit the nail on the head. I have been preaching for years the 1933 Economy act that took away our acess to the courts is is unconstitutional and violates our civil rights. Until veterans treat the lack of acess to courts the same way blacks treated jim crow and the voteing rights issue. We will continue to be 3 rd rate citizzens. The VA hides behind the laws that keep effective review of its screwed up system. However 2 years ago when the ajudicators changed my direct deposit bank # loosing my chefck and refusing to fix it. I had 3 days to eviction and I threaten my congressman, VA lawyers If I lost my home or the lights turned off. I was going to surrender to a Fed Jury trial in progress. I would then be arrested and have my own day in court where i will tell every one of the VA criminal acts. 4 days latter I had my check in the mail box Every veteran right now who is at risk of family harm or loosing there home has the right to warn the VA of a pending jury trial if things dont change quick.. IF the VA belives you will really go to a jury. They will pay up. Terry Higgins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Question
Guest allanopie
NEWS FROM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE U.S. SENATE COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AFFAIRS
CRAIG'S "CHOICE OF REPRESENTATION" FOR VETERANS BILL PICKS UP SUPPORT --
Legislation seeks to overturn 150 year-old prohibition on hiring lawyers
Craig's legislation seeks to change a policy prohibiting attorneys from
representing veterans -- a policy which began during the Civil War.
Image courtesy the U.S. Social Security Administration
June 8, 2006
Media contact: Jeff Schrade (202)224-9093
(Washington, DC) Legislation to allow veterans to hire an attorney as
they seek benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs picked up
strong support Thursday. The positive reaction came during a hearing of
the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs.
The legislation (S. 2694), sponsored by Chairman Larry Craig (R-Idaho),
seeks to overturn a policy begun during the Civil War.
Under current law, all 24 million living veterans are prohibited from
hiring legal counsel to help them navigate the Veterans Affairs system.
It is only after a veteran has spent months and even years exhausting
the extensive VA administrative process that the veteran then may retain
a lawyer - a process that often takes 3 or more years to complete.
"Particularly for veterans of today's All-Volunteer Force, the current
paternalistic Civil War-era law is completely outdated. These
highly-trained, highly skilled veterans have the ability - and should
have the right - to decide for themselves whether to hire a lawyer,"
Craig said.
The Idaho Republican noted that many veterans have written in support of
the bill, including one from New Jersey, a decorated disabled military
retiree who served in Vietnam. He wrote:
"Murderers, rapists and pedophiles can hire an attorney; why are
veterans treated as third, yes third class citizens?"
Among those who spoke out Thursday in favor of changing the law was
former Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for Veterans
Claims, Donald Ivers, as well as Rick Weidman of the Vietnam Veterans of
America and Barton F. Stichman of the National Veterans Legal Services
Program.
"Freedom to seek counsel of one's choice has long been a hallmark of
this nation's system of justice. That those who have given much in
defense of that system are denied that freedom in pursuing claims
arising out of their service is, at best, highly contradictory," Judge
Ivers said.
Under current federal laws and court rulings, criminal defendants,
illegal aliens, and enemy combatants have the right to have legal
counsel. Veterans are the only group which does not enjoy that
privilege.
"It makes no rational sense to deny them this right," Stichman said.
That sentiment was shared by Rick Weidman, who spoke to the committee on
behalf of those in his organization.
"Vietnam Veterans of America strongly and unreservedly supports S.2694
by convention resolution," Weidman said. "We urge its endorsement by
this committee and passage by both houses of Congress."
In the House of Representatives, two bills similar to Sen. Craig's have
been introduced, one (H.R. 5549) by Rep. Jeff Miller, Chairman of a
subcommittee of the House Committee on Veterans' Affairs, and (H.R.
4914) Rep. Lane Evans, the top Democrat on that same committee.
Despite the strong support Craig's legislation has received, the
Department of Veterans Affairs voiced opposition to the bill during the
hearing. That drew a strong rebuke from Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) who
is co-sponsoring the bill with Sen. Craig.
Other co-sponsors of the bill include Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX),
who chairs the Appropriations subcommittee on the Military Construction
and Veterans Affairs, Jim Jeffords (I-VT), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) and
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK).
#####
See this story on-line at: http://veterans.senate.gov
<http://veterans.senate.gov/>
If you want to send Chairman Craig a message, click on: Contact the
Veterans' Affairs Committee
<http://veterans.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Home>
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Top Posters For This Question
6
6
3
1
Popular Days
Jun 9
11
Jun 10
9
Jun 11
4
Jun 12
4
Top Posters For This Question
john999 6 posts
rogus 6 posts
timetowinarace 3 posts
Berta 1 post
Popular Days
Jun 9 2006
11 posts
Jun 10 2006
9 posts
Jun 11 2006
4 posts
Jun 12 2006
4 posts
30 answers to this question
Recommended Posts