I need to Prove I went to VA when I was released in 79 and in 2010 but was denied

[Ronald Bailey]

I got discharged in OCT of 79 with Hepatitis I was in the Hospital for 2 weeks, I was Discharged with Honorable Discharge I immediately to VA to file a claim they couldn't help  No Records of me being in the Hospital back then ( no computers back then) the VA was negligent what's the best way to prove I went to VA to file claim and they couldn't help because no records how convenient. I went to VA again in Phoenix AZ I could  not get Help a lot of documented Corruption that was 2010 then I went to VA again in April 2016 they filed a claim I'm very grateful its bitter sweet I couldn't help thinking i  would of got Help in 79 if my records showed up then how can i prove I went to VA back then?

[brokensoldier244th]

Whomever was working your claim should have sent a form 7131 to any VAMC that you stated you went to- computerized records only go back to about 2005, anything else has to be requested on paper. If nothing else they can look in the VAMC Registrations to see if you were at least registered for VA health care prior to 2005.

[broncovet]

YOU can go to or call the hospital yourself to get the records.  IDK if its a VA hospital, but there should be a record of it.  Start there.  You can also ask for a copy of your records at your VAMC , and see for yourself if those were there.  

Your's is NOT the first time medical records/service records have gotten lost.  In fact, there is even a regulation addressing this, 38 CFR 3.156
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/38/3.156

"New" evidence" is created when you go to a doctor/hospital and it is also "new evidence" when VA adjuticated your claim without it, but you submit "new" evidence., that is, evidence that was missing but now found.  

[Lemuel]

On 7/3/2024 at 9:08 AM, Ronald Bailey said:

I got discharged in OCT of 79 with Hepatitis I was in the Hospital for 2 weeks, I was Discharged with Honorable Discharge I immediately to VA to file a claim they couldn't help  No Records of me being in the Hospital back then ( no computers back then) the VA was negligent what's the best way to prove I went to VA to file claim and they couldn't help because no records how convenient. I went to VA again in Phoenix AZ I could  not get Help a lot of documented Corruption that was 2010 then I went to VA again in April 2016 they filed a claim I'm very grateful its bitter sweet I couldn't help thinking i  would of got Help in 79 if my records showed up then how can i prove I went to VA back then?

I am having the same problem with some of my medical records.  Hard copy pages were removed from my C&P file prior to scanning.  My hard copy C&P file was not scanned until 2014.  It had been at Pittsburg VARO after being moved there from DC when I was in Japan.  There are items that were in the file before the "Sensitivity 7 officer" got hold of my file and handled my claims.

There is a 5+ mile high stack of VA records the VA OIG found that have not been scanned about 5 years ago.  Because we cannot get copies of our hard copy medical records now even though they are in custody of the VA Archives, we must assume they were mishandled worse than the 1971 St. Louis Record Center Fire.  At least some of them were recoverable.  But the way these have been handled we cannot get the copies we need retrieved to fill the gaps in the C&P file that is now automatically updated digitally from our digital medical files.

We have to in mass complain to our congressmen citing the problem.  Probably after we are dead they will finally scan those records so we can retrieve copies for our claims.

For now, we are SOL the same as if we failed the other SOL.  If you find a way, please let the rest of us know.

[Ronald Bailey]

On 7/3/2024 at 10:45 AM, brokensoldier244th said:

Whomever was working your claim should have sent a form 7131 to any VAMC that you stated you went to- computerized records only go back to about 2005, anything else has to be requested on paper. If nothing else they can look in the VAMC Registrations to see if you were at least registered for VA health care prior to 2005.

I have ( TBI ) I cant remember which VA,s I went to but I know I went I know I went to Phoenix VA in 2010 they didnt help me there was major corruption there at that time then I went in 2016 to Reginal office in Wichita  Ks  they finally helped me IM service connected for Hepatitis , PTSD, TBI  100% for each I was an 18 year old Kid Back then I was entitled for Benefits' upon my discharge I can get my medical Records from FT Gordon GA when I was entitled in 10/ 79 Please Help Me with any advice

[Ronald Bailey]

6 hours ago, Lemuel said:

I am having the same problem with some of my medical records.  Hard copy pages were removed from my C&P file prior to scanning.  My hard copy C&P file was not scanned until 2014.  It had been at Pittsburg VARO after being moved there from DC when I was in Japan.  There are items that were in the file before the "Sensitivity 7 officer" got hold of my file and handled my claims.

There is a 5+ mile high stack of VA records the VA OIG found that have not been scanned about 5 years ago.  Because we cannot get copies of our hard copy medical records now even though they are in custody of the VA Archives, we must assume they were mishandled worse than the 1971 St. Louis Record Center Fire.  At least some of them were recoverable.  But the way these have been handled we cannot get the copies we need retrieved to fill the gaps in the C&P file that is now automatically updated digitally from our digital medical files.

We have to in mass complain to our congressmen citing the problem.  Probably after we are dead they will finally scan those records so we can retrieve copies for our claims.

For now, we are SOL the same as if we failed the other SOL.  If you find a way, please let the rest of us know.

My Med Records are at the Eisenhower Hospital in FT Gordon GA not the VA I went to VA upon my discharge that was Honorable to file a claim which back then there was no records I went to the VA in Phoenix AZ In 2010 again they couldn't Help Me they couldn't Help Nobody Due to Massive Documented corruption that is well known in 1980 I put a written Request for my records at the NPRC in ST Louis I'm still waiting In 2016 I went to reginal office in Wichita KS thanks to Computers they finally help me file a claim now I'm Service Connected 100%  For Hepatitis  PTSD TBI and Sexual Assault which I'm Grateful for Wichita Helping Me Its Bitter Sweet because I told them my story of lost Records why would I wait till 2016 to file a claim when I was eligible upon my discharge in 79 A veteran get the Benefit of the Doubt also I was so Distraught do to my Disabilities I went to VA To get Help which I was a victim of Equitable Tolling Is why I didn't pursue My Claim every year because of the PTSD I got the Hepatitis and the TBI which I still have which was caused by the Assault

[Lemuel]

These are things that need corrective action by congress.  But looks like it will not happen.  The "delay, deny, wait until the die" is working.  And a lot was done to get the delay and make the deny possible.