The "dirty Dozen"

[broncovet]

The VA has at least a dozen UNDERHANDED ways they deny claims, please add yours to the list:

1. The Veteran never applies..they make it hard for the Veteran to even know he is eligible for benefits.

2. Shredding the Veterans claim or evidence is effective at denying.

3. Ignore the claim, or parts of the claim and secretly deny it. (We dont have record of your claim for.......)

4. Delay the claim indefinately until you die or give up.

5. "Award" you zero %, which is just a back door denial.

6. "Horn swaggle you" by asking for multiple C&P exams to doc shop and deny you by finding one doc in a dozen who will give them the opinion they want, and cite that opinion in their denial. Or, they can just send you for a C&P with a doc that they know will give them evidence to deny.

7. Issue you a letter of denial..even if you have good evidence.

8. They can deny you, then when you appeal, they can deny your appeal by "interpreting" your NOD as something else, like a claim for benefits.

9. "Farm out" your denial by sending your claim to multiple Regional offices until it gets lost. Then they can blame other RO's for loosing your claim file.

10. Even if your appeal makes it through the system, the RO has to implement the BVA or CVAC decision and they Fail to implement the appeal

11. "low balling" your claim, and then use the "fuzzy math" to pay you even less.

12. "Fake dates," for example, by saying you appealed past the one year period when you sent the NOD in and they shredded it.

Please add your methods of how the VA denied you.

Edited March 6, 2009 by broncovet

[yoggie2]

Man, I have hit just about everyone of these and I can prove it but I think 2 need to be combined but I have had pretty much all of them. However there is another and its huge.

13. "Edit" a DRO Review Hearing Transcripts to seek a different outcome, either to fit 1 of the 12 you listed here it is a vicious circle...my transcript was edited like no bodies business.

Edited March 29, 2009 by yoggie2

[yoggie2]

How about this one, as it pertains to my appeal.

Misinterpretation of a condition. When the VA misinterprets a condition, they give you a C&P exam for a condition in which you do not have. They then base their decision completely off of this incorrect C&P exam. Even if you can get them to change the condition to the correct one, on subsequent appeals they still base their decision off of a C&P exam for the other condition that they had you rated under.

I don't know how many other people this has happened to, but one is enough.

yeah this is a good one too. Kinda like when your C&P is done by Nurse Practitioner it carries more weight than any 5 IMO's of specialist of doctors..

[mrsvet28]

I may be one of the very few...whoever they are?? I am a veteran just like you. I served just the same. The only difference is that I am on the inside. I am still the same person.

"My pet peeve is that it should take an IMO from an outside physician, costing maybe thousands of dollars an ailing vet can't afford to get what he deserves."

Why? Why is that all it should take? What does the vet deserve? I have seen 2 physicians in the past three years who are probably gonna lose their license to practice because they accepted "thousands of dollars" to manufacture IMO's for some veterans. Are there more out there? Possibly. There are always 2 sides, Jayg... In war, in peace, in love. marriage, and life. There are 2 sides with veterans and the VA as well. There are some out there who are not genuine....on both sides.

Want me to tell you why the examiner was "instructed" not to look at your secondary problems... Think I'll admit that on here? That they purposely don't look? That we "instruct" them in not doing so? OK, that's fair. I'll tell you.

Did you say that you are S/C for your feet? Tell me the exact things that you claimed (everything), and I will tell you something that I guess is not common knowledge on here. Maybe it is, but from what I read and see, it's not.

HERES OUR BVA APPEAL: attachment=2575:0900500_APPEAL.txt

EVIDENCE NOT MENTIONED-MAYBE IT ISNT NECESSARY????

2 IMO'S WHICH DIAGNOSE PTSD- ONE IS SS WHICH HE'S BEEN ON FOR PTSD SINCE03'- BUDDY STATEMENT THAT WITNESSED SAME ATTACKS IN BUNKER/ THAT IS WHO-WHAT WHERE AND WHEN-IN STRESSOR-NOTARIZEDAND SUBMITTED IN 04'-THEY ONLY REFER []TO OTHER STRESSOR EVENT-/LEG INJURY THAT IS IN VA CP PTSD EXAMINERS REPORT 01' AND 07'/COMBAT INFANTRY TRAINING NOT MENTIONED/IN REPORTS/

THESE ARE A FEW THAT WITH DIFFERENT SOCS AND SSOCS AND NODS-SOME LIST THEM SOME DONT-BEEN AT THIS SINCE98'---SEE WHAT YOU THINK--

0900500_APPEAL.txt

[halos2]

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[broncovet]

Snave, and other posters have pointed out still another reason why Veterans are homeless and commit suicide more than the civilian population, when Veteran's had to pass strict physical, medical, and mental tests to even be admitted to the military.

They were the "cream of the crop" when they went in..top physical, medical, and emotional condition.

Then, as Veterans, they are at the "bottom of the barrel" in homelessness and suicide. This "transition" from top physical condition into homelessness and despair can only be explained by a broken Department of Veterans Affairs, who is in charge of assisting Veterans.

Far too many VA employees view Veterans either as a "problem", or, even worse, someone to victimize.

Veterans do not deserve substandard medical/administrative care where "dirty" equipment is reused to perform medical tests such as colonoscopies.

A Veteran with a mental issue should not have to have perfect medical records, clear and concise explanations of the conditions he is seeking (mailed certified, of course, keeping precise records and copies of everything..all organized in a manner willing to replace any document "lost" by the regional office), and perfect attendance of VARO mandated Compensation Exams. It is simply unrealistic to expect a mentally/physically disabled Veteran to FLAWLESSLY jump through the multiple hoops in able to be awarded just compensation, and even then, be able to survive a 5year or longer wait for the VA to "process" his application, while often being destitute. Since so few Veterans can ever negotiate the incredible "maze to benefits" the result is high Veteran suicide and homelessness. It is a disgrace.