C+p Examiner

[aidenspapa]

SHE STATED IN HER C+P EXAM THAT MY SCHIZOPHRENIA/SCHIZOAFFECTIVE DISORDER WAS FIRST DIAGNOSED IN THE SERVICE AS PER THE SERVICE MEDICAL RECORDS.THEREFORE THE PERSONALITY DISORDER THAT THEY POSTED IN MY SEPERATION PAGES WAS INAPPROPRIATE( THIS IS THE VA C+P EXAMINER STATEING THIS)I WAS DENIED IT IS GOING TO DRO SOON,DO I HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON ACCORDING TO THE C+P EXAMINERS OWN REPORT,I WAS OFFERED SERVICE CONNECTION FROM PSYCH DRS IN USMC ON THE GROUNDS I TOOK MEDS.I REFUSED MEDS,YOUNG+STUPID.SO THEY PUT ME DOWN AS PERS DISORDER=NON COMPENSATIONAL.THANKS FOR FEEDBACK

[john999]

The fact your refused meds is no valid reason for changing a DX of schizophrenia to a borderline PD. Many people with schizophrenia refuse meds because they think that they are perfectly OK and that the meds are poison or some kind of mind control. If you had schizophrenia what justification would there be to keep you in service if you took meds or not. How could you deploy with schizophrenia? If the VA continues to deny you I would hire me a lawyer. As Hoppy says the VA is expert at kicking up dust and blowing smoke to delay and/or deny a claim. Your claim is stronger than mine was and I got 70%. Did you file a claim within one year of discharge? I was hospitalized and got DX of depression and anxiety. I, too, went back to duty. Big mistake if I could have gotten medical discharge, but the army is sneaky. They will tell you all sorts of tales about taking that general discharge and it will be all straightened out when the VA gets your claim. Untrue as you see.

If the military can get you out on a PD as opposed to medical board for a mental condition they sure will do it. This is a ongoing problem even today with PTSD cases. Did the military kick you out because you got in trouble, or just because you could not function?

[aidenspapa]

The fact your refused meds is no valid reason for changing a DX of schizophrenia to a borderline PD. Many people with schizophrenia refuse meds because they think that they are perfectly OK and that the meds are poison or some kind of mind control. If you had schizophrenia what justification would there be to keep you in service if you took meds or not. How could you deploy with schizophrenia? If the VA continues to deny you I would hire me a lawyer. As Hoppy says the VA is expert at kicking up dust and blowing smoke to delay and/or deny a claim. Your claim is stronger than mine was and I got 70%. Did you file a claim within one year of discharge? I was hospitalized and got DX of depression and anxiety. I, too, went back to duty. Big mistake if I could have gotten medical discharge, but the army is sneaky. They will tell you all sorts of tales about taking that general discharge and it will be all straightened out when the VA gets your claim. Untrue as you see.

If the military can get you out on a PD as opposed to medical board for a mental condition they sure will do it. This is a ongoing problem even today with PTSD cases. Did the military kick you out because you got in trouble, or just because you could not function?

I DID NOT GET INTO TROUBLE.I DID NOT SEEK VA HELP FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS AFTER SERVICE. WHEN I GOT MY C+P EXAM IN DECEMBER THE DOCTOR WROTE THAT HER OPINION WAS: VETERANS AXIS 1 DIAGNOSIS IS CONSISTENT WITH SCHIZOAFFECTIVE DISORDER WHICH WAS FIRST DIAGNOSED (AS PER DOCUMENTS IN SERVICE FILES ) WHILE VET WAS IN SERVICE. AS A RESULT OF THE PRESENSE OF AN AXIS 1 DISORDER,THE DIAGNOSIS OF A PERSONALITY DISORDER IS THEREFORE NOT APPROPRIATE. IS THERE TOTAL OCCUPATIONAL+ SOCIAL IMPAIRMENT DUE TO MENTAL DISORDER SIGNS + SYMPTOMS? SHE STATED ,YES. SHE THEN STATED THAT I WAS RECIEVING SSD FOR SCHISOAFFECTIVE DISORDER FOR APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ADVISE???? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.

[Pete53]

Considering you dx and that you cap everything I think that you probably need to get a Veteran Service Officer to help you with your claim. I have a hard time making sense of your post cause there is no punctuation no breaks or new paragraphs and I cannot see well.

If you could just ask one question at a time maybe I could help more.

[Hoppy]

I have seen cases service connected with weaker evidence than the evidence in your file. Was the C&P exam in the file at the time of the first denial? What was the logic used for the original denial? If the DRO denies your claim keep appealing. There was an attorney named Kenneth Carpenter whose cases I used to read. He won several Schizoaffective claims that were first diagnosed after service and linked to service. The logic used by the clinicians in these claims was that the inservice symptoms were actually early symptoms of schizoaffective disorder.

Edited May 28, 2010 by Hoppy

[aidenspapa]

I have seen cases service connected with weaker evidence than the evidence in your file. Was the C&P exam in the file at the time of the first denial? What was the logic used for the original denial? If the DRO denies your claim keep appealing. There was an attorney named Kenneth Carpenter whose cases I used to read. He won several Schizoaffective claims that were first diagnosed after service and linked to service. The logic used by the clinicians in these claims was that the inservice symptoms were actually early symptoms of schizoaffective disorder.

No,the first time i was denied was 15 years ago,they never gave rational for there denial. but i just got a c+p in dec.Shot down 30 days later,i have an attorney this time though.there reasoning for shooting me down this time was that it was not new evidence,but my attorney put in a nod stating ,of course it's new evidence,the va sent me to a c+p and even the dr stated that the personality disorder in 1981 while in service was an incorrect diagnosis,and that there was an initial admission into camp lejeune hospital stated schizofrenia, the dr at the time told me in private,i think your mental illness is service connected but in order to substantiate to washington dc i want you to take lithium,it will be easier for me to service connect you,i was to scared of what was in pill,i declined so it was easy for the board at the time to give me general discharge with non compensatable disorder.BIG MISTAKE I MADE.Hopefully before i die i will get this thing.Thanks Hoppy.

[john999]

I think you will win your claim. Too bad you missed out on all that retro pay for the last 15 years. Your discharge should have been attacked long ago when you might have gotten it changed to a medical discharge. It is still possible if the facts are there. How long were you out before you filed a claim?