Provisional Claim Settlements - Any Out There?

[cham1968]

I got what looks to be a provisional approval yesterday. I had already received a letter from my vso saying they had approved me for 50% ptsd and 0% for my shoulder and ankles all the things I had completed a C&P for. Yesterday my ebenefits said a notification of decision had been sent. My claim went from gather evidence all the way to prep for notification in like a month and a few days.

I also saw my AB8 and AB7 and talked to them on the phone and they said that they had made a provisional decision and the other parts of my claim like mtbi, sensitivity to light etc had been sent back for more evidence(because they screwed up initially and didn't schedule those C&P exams at the same time. My claim would be two years old in july if that helps. I had been sitting in gathering evidence for over a year and a half prior to this mandate.

Congratulations! I think we've all figured that they would go this route to clear the books. If it's not obvious to them or they've misplaced information, its all on the Veteran once again to go through the BS all over again. I'm right there with you in the 2yr boat got C&P tomorrow for tinnitus and PTSD. Already getting my stuff together because from what I've seen they are only during the direct connect anything after service they just kicking to the curb or 0%. So God bless you and may everything go well with the next phase of your battle.

[WhyMista]

Congratulations! I think we've all figured that they would go this route to clear the books. If it's not obvious to them or they've misplaced information, its all on the Veteran once again to go through the BS all over again. I'm right there with you in the 2yr boat got C&P tomorrow for tinnitus and PTSD. Already getting my stuff together because from what I've seen they are only during the direct connect anything after service they just kicking to the curb or 0%. So God bless you and may everything go well with the next phase of your battle.

I'm not really all that upset because its better than the alternative which is me still waiting for another 6-9mos. They did screw up but I do like that they are at now saying instead of continuing to screw them by making them wait lets give them what we've already gotten and then instead of just denying the rest of the claim and making me file a NOD they just wait for my C&P for the remaining issues to be done and then hopefully the claim will still be streamlined as its still accruing time on the books instead of it being a new claim,NOD or appeal.

[Alishape]

I got a provision rating from the fast track initiative. Now my original claim7/7/2010 is closed as off May 13. I sumbitted some new info and they didn't reopen it, they opened an administrative review claim with the same date as the original one. I had a VA rep go through my file to submit my claim so each and everything in it was in my smr's but they denied service connection for lot's of stuff with no C&P or anything. The VA is fudging the number on this one.

[cham1968]

I got a provision rating from the fast track initiative. Now my original claim7/7/2010 is closed as off May 13. I sumbitted some new info and they didn't reopen it, they opened an administrative review claim with the same date as the original one. I had a VA rep go through my file to submit my claim so each and everything in it was in my smr's but they denied service connection for lot's of stuff with no C&P or anything. The VA is fudging the number on this one.

Congratulations! was your provisional the 40% listed in your profile? If you don't mind what did they rate and what didn't they rate?

thank you for your service and God Bless!

Ooh Rah

[meghp0405]

Let me try to explain the deal with these provisional claims. When a active duty military personnel is medically boarded by their respective service branch, they fall into what they now call the IDAS claim. This claim is determined by the service medical board and the VA. So when a claim comes back, the military member has 2 ratings. A rating from the service and a provisional rating from the VA. When the military member is then medically retired, he/she will draw their medical retirement pay from their branch of service. The day after their retirement, the provisional claim from VA is then re-submitted to the VA for an actual rating. This procedure takes on average here at Fort Knox, about 7 months. When the claim comes back from VA, the veteran then has to decide which check he will receive. The medically retired check from the service or the compensation from VA. This is a Chapter 61 retirement. As it stands right now, the veteran is only authorized one or the other but not both.

At first, I and many others really believed that this IDAS system was going to be extremely beneficial to the veteran. Which, it is not because they have to file the provisional rating after their medical retirement date, and wait again.

I spoke with a supervisor at the IDAS site here. I asked why they were making this IDAS system seem so wonderful, when in fact it isn't. He was offended and told me that I didn't know what I was talking about. I told him that I could take a veteran, put his claim together, submit it to VA as a fully developed claim and receive an answer back way within the timeline of this IDAS path. He told me that "they don't do fully developed claims" and were instructed not to do them. Why, why are we not doing what is best for those that served this country. I received the deer in the headlight look as I often do when I speak with those over at the IDAS facility. Just makes me sick!

[cham1968]

Let me try to explain the deal with these provisional claims. When a active duty military personnel is medically boarded by their respective service branch, they fall into what they now call the IDAS claim. This claim is determined by the service medical board and the VA. So when a claim comes back, the military member has 2 ratings. A rating from the service and a provisional rating from the VA. When the military member is then medically retired, he/she will draw their medical retirement pay from their branch of service. The day after their retirement, the provisional claim from VA is then re-submitted to the VA for an actual rating. This procedure takes on average here at Fort Knox, about 7 months. When the claim comes back from VA, the veteran then has to decide which check he will receive. The medically retired check from the service or the compensation from VA. This is a Chapter 61 retirement. As it stands right now, the veteran is only authorized one or the other but not both.

At first, I and many others really believed that this IDAS system was going to be extremely beneficial to the veteran. Which, it is not because they have to file the provisional rating after their medical retirement date, and wait again.

I spoke with a supervisor at the IDAS site here. I asked why they were making this IDAS system seem so wonderful, when in fact it isn't. He was offended and told me that I didn't know what I was talking about. I told him that I could take a veteran, put his claim together, submit it to VA as a fully developed claim and receive an answer back way within the timeline of this IDAS path. He told me that "they don't do fully developed claims" and were instructed not to do them. Why, why are we not doing what is best for those that served this country. I received the deer in the headlight look as I often do when I speak with those over at the IDAS facility. Just makes me sick!

You just said a mouth full right there. Things really shouldn't be that difficult. What I would say is if you can't receive both then why do we need BOTH. Just more wasted money that could be going into the pockets of the Veterans of this seemingly great country. Or maybe it just appears great until you need it!

God Bless and Good luck to all