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At The Va, Lying Is Now Called "misinterpreting"

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Berta
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Mindset or groupthinking is what perpetrated the fiasco of the Bay of Pigs as well as the beginning of the Pearl Harbor attack. I studied this in psychology class many years ago, but what is ,in e

Navy04
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It seems that no matter who's Donkey it is, we are still going to get Kicked in the process!!!

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Misinterpreting is one of their favore things to do in investigations, here is their other favorite thing to do to a vet. Griffen hangs his own self with these contradictions. we did not co

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I believe it is the mindset of VA managers, VA employees and even VA OIG personnel who all believe lying and denying are normal and acceptable behavior as long as they personally benefit (bonuses, promotions, lighten workload, protect their jobs, etc.) from the behavior. This mindset is systemic throughout the VA and the welfare of the veterans is forgotten or intentionally disregarded. JMO

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Mindset or groupthinking is what perpetrated the fiasco of the Bay of Pigs as well as the beginning of the Pearl Harbor attack.

I studied this in psychology class many years ago, but what is ,in essense, a social or group phenomena, has become the status quo for the VA....with many good dedicated employees of the system victimized by this typr of thinking and they fear retaliation if they don't comply with the powers that be.

At least Kennedy admitted to his Bay of Pigs errors. I wonder if the VA will ever fully take accountability for their errors.

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You are right. The good ones have to go along to get along or suffer the consequences. Hopefully, more of the good VA employees will have the courage to become whistleblowers and continue to reveal the dark secrets of the VA. I can understand why they are hesitant to speak out as it appears the level of accountability so far has not been adequate to really address the problems and change the current mindset.

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The system needs a complete rehaul and needs to be simplified.

1. Tell vet what medical information is needed

1A. Have a documented episode in service or one year after discharge.

2. Lets vet get information from current physician.

3. Let information speak for itself.

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Folks:

With over 200,000 VA employees, it's no fair to paint them all with such a broad brush? There's a new boss there now, so we'll get a chance to see what he can do?

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Misinterpreting is one of their favore things to do in investigations, here is their other favorite thing to do to a vet.

Griffen hangs his own self with these contradictions.

we did not consider this a systemic issue.

although no actions were actually taken to obtain the required evidence.

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Now you folks know its all about the interpetation. I guess the posts I have written about Regs and the iterpetation is now the focus of the VA's misinterpetation.

I guess they have been a bunch of misinterpeters.

I interpet this claims system as a Denial Based system in the first place. Am I misinterpeting this issue. Of course not.

Oh well. We Vets need to take a crash course on this issue. not.

Basser

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"Immunity, impunity, anonymity, unaccountability"

Gee, I thought that was what bureaucracy was all about!

A corollary, and standard bureaucratic practice-

When &*&^ hits the fan, reorganize. Works every time for bureaucrats!

Any residual accountability or traceability is, by intent, lost!

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New VA SOP:

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WHAT A JOKE THE OIG IS..

Where in the hell, did they get Linda (SHREK ) Halliday anyway.

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also it should be mandatory that the RO notify the veterans whose claims were wrongfully manipulated, and any other claims in the past that the vsr worked on should be pulled and quality checked. EVERY ONE .

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Possibly from a Cracker Jack box?

If the OIG just did their jobs and looked out for us, then they would not be in the scandal spotlight.

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the whole executive branch is a mass entity of corruption . the Accounting office reports millions unaccounted for by the Va every year, and nobody bats an eye. its accepted corruption. its like the three stooges. Larry , Curlie and Moe. Office of accountability doesnt account for anything, Office of inspector general does staged inspections and find the same things and try and minimize them, and the Va just keeps doing whatever it wants. They are all getting paid very well, they dont give a rats ass, and dont want to rock the boat, because sometimes the squeaky wheel doesnt get no grease it gets replaced.

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I think we would be better off with Curly as the OIG

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