RUREADY Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 After raising hell about no treatment for pain in pain-management other than injections in the bones seems as though or was told a program is started in Tampa for Empower Veteran or something that last 10 weeks at 3 hours one day a week to help cope with pain retrain your mind to handle pain and depression suppose to help live a better quality of life. Only one clinic that takes maybe 100 people will get approve for so far . I was ask would I like to try and my reply was why not nothing else worked so far. Anyone in Tampa area tried this. Will have the exact name later for the program but it is just getting started in Atlanta area . I never turn down pain treatments. jmho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArNG11 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I've done chiropractic care, physical therapy, epidural steroid shots, facet block injections, bilateral medial branch blocks and a rhizotomy. This is all on my private medical insurance. I have tried getting fee based care from the VA and that was a no go. I managed to get the VA to do PT and Accupuncture. Now they will do trigger point injections. I haven't tried those but I'm willing to if it can give me some relief. I've considered surgery several times but I am leery of letting the VA do that. Even on the private side I have reservations about spine surgery. It's a gampble and risky even with the newer medical advancements and treatment options. Vync 1 Mr. A " FIGHT TILL YOUR LAST BREATH " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 RUREADY Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) I've done chiropractic care, physical therapy, epidural steroid shots, facet block injections, bilateral medial branch blocks and a rhizotomy. This is all on my private medical insurance. I have tried getting fee based care from the VA and that was a no go. I managed to get the VA to do PT and Accupuncture. Now they will do trigger point injections. I haven't tried those but I'm willing to if it can give me some relief. I've considered surgery several times but I am leery of letting the VA do that. Even on the private side I have reservations about spine surgery. It's a gampble and risky even with the newer medical advancements and treatment options. you have not tried this its a NEW program and covered by VA what you got to loose. Surgery on your back from VA is your choice but me the only way is a last or only resource I have. jmho Edited January 29, 2015 by RUREADY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArNG11 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Oh most definitely. The VA is not going to touch my back. Even with my private insurance I'm leery. It's a big risk, however, I'm at that point. I will look into the program. The closest option I have VA side is the Spine care center near Dallas, TX. Vync 1 Mr. A " FIGHT TILL YOUR LAST BREATH " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Content Curator/HadIt.com Elder Vync Posted January 30, 2015 Content Curator/HadIt.com Elder Share Posted January 30, 2015 Vync, from what I been told they have everything social workers, mental , chaplain , pharmacy a complete team of doctors mental, physical, sleep doctors, that is suppose to help with chronic pain and dealing with it to have a better quality of life. It just this one in Atlanta is in the C&P compensation clinic on FT MCPEARSON Breathe 2 relax and CBT i coach are smart phone apps that VA has made to help with sleep disturbance. After talking to a few in the Jan class they seem to like it and it seem to be helping with chronic pain and enjoying life better It really does sound promising, but folks like ArNG11 and myself have serious trust issues with the VA. I know nobody is perfect. I still am interested in this program because it does not seem to involve any sort of surgical procedures. "If it's stupid but works, then it isn't stupid."- From Murphy's Laws of Combat Disclaimer: I am not a legal expert, so use at own risk and/or consult a qualified professional representative. Please refer to existing VA laws, regulations, and policies for the most up to date information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HadIt.com Elder john999 Posted January 30, 2015 HadIt.com Elder Share Posted January 30, 2015 I live in Tampa but was told I had to be off opiates to use the pain program. I was pressured hard to reduce my opiates, and chose to withdraw from crummy Fentanyl Patches that did not work anyway. This seems to have relieved my doctor's mind, but they won't be happy until I am unhappy. If you have back or neck trouble and don't respond to injections the other real options are dope or surgery. I am not doing surgery on my back or neck until I can't walk or can't hold a cup of coffee. No way in hell would I let VA cut on my back or neck, nor would I allow injections since I had RF Ablation and steroid injections by private doctors and it hurt! These private pain doctors wanted me to come back for more while VA could care less as long as you don't die when they are standing over you with a knife in their hand. My trust issues with VA point towards paranoia, severe, chronic and poor prognosis. I just don't trust the VA at all about anything.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Moderator broncovet Posted January 30, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Yea...I think the VA's "new" pain management is similar to the "old" military "3 step" pain management system. It consists of 3 parts: 1. Tough 2. It 3. Out This is an improvement over earlier (Vietnam Era) military pain management 2 part system: 1. Stop 2. Complaining That is an improvement over WW2 Vets pain management "one step" system: 1. Shutup! While none of these actually helped the Veteran with pain, all, when applied, seemed to make things much quieter for others. Edited January 30, 2015 by broncovet ArNG11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RUREADY
After raising hell about no treatment for pain in pain-management other than injections
in the bones seems as though or was told a program is started in Tampa for Empower
Veteran or something that last 10 weeks at 3 hours one day a week to help cope with pain
retrain your mind to handle pain and depression suppose to help live a better quality of life.
Only one clinic that takes maybe 100 people will get approve for so far . I was ask would I like to try and my
reply was why not nothing else worked so far. Anyone in Tampa area tried this. Will have the exact
name later for the program but it is just getting started in Atlanta area . I never turn down pain treatments. jmho
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Try every pain management option you have before you make a decision on surgery. Lifestyle changes, meditation, acupuncture, chiropractic care, etc, exhaust all options before even considering surge
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everything I do I try to help the next person or make it easier in claims process or getting the proper treatment for pain. I have the negative opinion to offer just to make you get what's n
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It's good to see the VA trying new things. For ages, they were dead set against chiropractic or accupuncture treatment. I guess with the VA becoming anal retentive about opiates or advanced pain manag
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