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an accredited attorney/agent properly filed a valid direct pay fee agreement per the provisions of 38 CFR 14.63 in the above cited case. The fee agreement shows that the claimant and attorney/agent request that the Department of Veteran Affairs pay 20% of the claimants award og past due benefits directly to the attorney/agent.

The amount of past dyue benefits, which is computed from the effective date of the award through the date of decision, is $91,951.37. The amount withheld for fees is $12,390.27 which is 20 percent of past due benefits.

Per 38 USC 5904 fees may not be charged, allowed, or paid with respect to services of agents and attorneys before the date on which the notice of disagreement is filed with respect to the case.


What we decided and why

In this case, the NOD was filed on November 7, 2014 and all of the requirements for direct payment of fees have been met. As a result, we will pay the attorney or agent a fee in the amount of $12,390.27. Per the provisions of 38 USC 5904, an assessment in the amount of $100 will be deducted from the fees.

that is verbatim per award letter. im a little confused because 20% of 91k whould be around 18k so why is it 12k? The math just doesnt add up to me or maybe im thinking of all this the wrong way i dont know? and also the last i spoke with my attorney she said the va will send me allt he money and i will pay the firm directly but now va is saying that they are paying the attorney directly at 20% so what gives? and by the way the fee agreement i had with my attorney was 33% so does that mean i cover the remaining 13%?

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Well. My understanding was 20% of past due benefits was the typical fee allowed by law when working on a contingency fee. Was there a break down? Did your attorney pay for an IME/IMO or filling fees up front? Hmm interesting.

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Well. My understanding was 20% of past due benefits was the typical fee allowed by law when working on a contingency fee. Was there a break down? Did your attorney pay for an IME/IMO or filling fees up front? Hmm interesting.

i just read the attorney contract and it says they get 33.3% and i never got a IMO since my evidence was strong enough. all the attorney did was type up my nod and sent the forms needed to file an appeal which was still in RO. The day i was granted which was feb 19 last week va called my attorney and informed me that i was granted IU P&T and my attorney told me that they set it up to where the VA will give me all my back pay and i pay the firm directly. recieved my award letter today and va is witholding 20% for attorney fees. I'll be making a phone call to my RO tomorrow regarding this situation because i just want to know if i have to pay the remaining 13%. my appeal never reached the BVA it was granted at RO level.

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That's wierd. My understanding was no more than 20% was allowed by law. Hmm

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How long did your appeal take from NOD? and did you request a DRO without hearing? I'm curious cause my appeal is relatively on the easy side. The only reason I got an attorney is because I didn't want to wait years for my 100% because I knew I made mistakes in the past , and I didn't want to screw it up. All my attorney did was also file a NOD. That one piece of paper might be worth $20,000? Whatever just as long as I get my 100%. I'm now now at 246 days since NOD

2004-06= 0%

2006-13= 10%

2013-14= 30%

2014-17= 90%

2017= 100%                  

2018 = 100% PT (still at BVA)

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Well. My understanding was 20% of past due benefits was the typical fee allowed by law when working on a contingency fee. Was there a break down? Did your attorney pay for an IME/IMO or filling fees up front? Hmm interesting.

(f) Presumptions. Fees which do not exceed 20 percent of any past-due benefits awarded as defined in paragraph (h)(3) of this section shall be presumed to be reasonable. Fees which exceed 331/3 percent of any past-due benefits awarded shall be presumed to be unreasonable. These presumptions may be rebutted through an examination of the factors in paragraph (e) of this section establishing that there is clear and convincing evidence that a fee which does not exceed 20 percent of any past-due benefits awarded is not reasonable or that a fee which exceeds 331/3 percent is reasonable in a specific circumstance.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/38/14.636

2004-06= 0%

2006-13= 10%

2013-14= 30%

2014-17= 90%

2017= 100%                  

2018 = 100% PT (still at BVA)

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