Try To Keep Disagreements As Civil As Possible

[Pete53]

You can catch more with honey than vinegar.

No one needs to leave Hadit, Disagreements can sometimes show a new way for a Veteran to win a claim. New members of Hadit are the lifeblood of this Board and we are here to help each other not get into fights. If someone bothers you put them on ignore.

Courtesy is a must. If my friend John quits posting it will be a loss for Veterans who need insight into the system. I learn something almost every day from his posts.

Personal attacks are not allowed on Hadit. The VA is tough enough without compounding the problems. Just cause someone has an opinion that does not make them a liar. I am quite confident that if there is a fake here that the VA will weed them out. Only someone who is determined and really has the medical evidence will prevail against the VA Gauntlet.

The family members who are helping Veterans deserve even more respect in my opinion. So please be nice and try to support each other as much as possible.

[Berta]

"If my friend John quits posting it will be a loss for Veterans who need insight into the system. I learn something almost every day from his posts"

Me too Pete-this was very alarming for me to read-John was one of the very first people to welcome me here and I seek his posts every day.

I have one thing to say-

The regs are the regs-

once in a great while the VA changes regulations-the entire electronic vets community finds out of the changes in a heartbeat-

Other then that there is no way anyone can alter them, unless they are prepared for a long drawn out legal challenge-with NVLSP on their side- like Beverly Nehmer did-

I have been reading VA regs and case law since 1988. I think the regs are 99 % perfect. and

I think I would agree with 99% of the BVA decisions from the past 5-6 years as they contain enough rationale to support whatever the BVA decision is. We need the established criteria of the regs as much as the VA does.

It is up to the claimant to satisfy what the regs require-with medical evidence.

I have challenged a reg that I feel is wrong- it only affects a small % of VA claimants-I challenged it using VA case law itself- long story-

other than that reg I think the rest are swell-

When Ben Franklin discussed the last draft of the Declaration of Independence he referred to it as being almost perfect-and besides -he added- it was all they had-

I think of the regs this way too.

Edited January 19, 2007 by Berta

[kkp]

I also have benfited greatly from Johns posts. I was so ignorant to va regs, and the questions I asked were and are so elementry. But John ,Berta and a few others were there with answers, even though they had answered them many times before, And there was always ( you may not like what I have to say but). At first I ignored it when directed at me,but to come down on a Brother vet with 28 years of service devoted to this Country is a bit much for me. I have been biting my toung since the statement that no one was under fire 24-7.Brother vet I was in the 1st bat. 501st inf 101st ABN. div. Have you ever heard of hill 937 above the a shau valley ( HAMBURGER HILL) hOW ABOUT 24/10. Elder on this forum or not right is right and wrong is wrong. The insulting remarks made and then someone calls his attention to it he wants to take it to e-mail while he keeps the same subject going on the forum. (I was not at hill 937 but I knew many who were, and I underline were.)

I write one sentence to try to point out what was going on yesterday, so we could get back to subjects that mattered and I am reppremanded, and My one sentence move and then removed within twenty minutes.

Hadit has been a God send to me, but I've hadit.

so long kkp

[Guest rickb54]

No one needs to leave hadit.

With that said I am sorry that John, KKP and others feel the way they do.

from time to time we have some misunderstanding and fail to communicate this happends in all walks of life.

I often ask a veteran to take a problem to email when I preceive a problem, most comply and this generally leads to an understanding between the parties that disagree. Sometimes a veteran refuses to take it private, and this can cause greater problems. The idea is that we like to keep the dirty laundry out of sight, and still be able to resolve any problems...

Sometimes it is best not to comment it the open when there seems to be a problem, I know I too can be guilty of making comments that seem to add salt to a wound, we are all human and make mistakes.

Hadit is a great resource for all of us. In todays day and age we need hadit now more than ever, what with the disability commission reviewing benefits and the DAV going against us concerning the use of Lawyers. We all benefit from hadit.

I know there will be disagreements form time to time, but we always are able to move on and become better people in the process. I am sure this time will be no different.

Let is continue to work together with one cause in mind veterans brothers and sisters.....always remembering that we share a

special bond that no one can ever take from us. This alone will get us through the bad times......

god bless each and every member of Hadit......

[Objee]

Dear Fellow Veterans & Friends

Someone who disagrees with me or even makes fun of me is the least of my problems. On this format we must learn to intellectully defend ourselfs. This is so much better than what I and many of you came out of wherein threats and beatings would occure. Life use to be a violent propisiton even in the veterans home.

For me its feels so good to be free to say what I want how I want and not get hit for it. I know many of you have been through this violent world like me. Maybe some of you were not phycially threaten or hit, but it came in sideways at you as sexual harrasment. All this is attempts to power dominate over others.

Jhon I know you had a rough life. and it will be a great loss if you leave. I hope you can just be greatful that your not being phycially attacked and rely on your intelllect to defend yourself here on hadit. You have a right to say what ever you need to say to defend yourself and no one can touch you. This is a great day for people like us who they want to abuse.

Terry Higgins

THE UNTOUCHABEL

So we're agreed - we won't form that circular firing squad.

Dylan Thomas, the alcoholic Irish poet, comes to mind - "Do not go gently into that dark night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light." Our rage is with the VA system and related institutions, not each other.

A gentle peace.

Ralph