DC Codes? Is PTSD & MDD separate claims?

[Buck52]

Anyone know what the DC are for this these two conditions below?

1.Major depressive disorder, recurrent, moderate .

2.Anxiety Disorder, unspecified.

Anxiety is a mental condition and is rated in with chronic PTSD  but the Major depressive disorder , recurrent , moderate could be filed as another claim    correct?

Which no claim as been filed for that..yet!! the MDD.

I know  Veterans can't have two mental disorders together  so do they use the MDD as another condition  as a mental health condition separated from the PTSD?

I AM SERVICE CONNECTD FOR CHRONIC PTSD  BUT NOT THE MDD.

Can I file for the MDD? SEPARATE FROM MY PTSD?

I CLAIM MY PTSD IS THE REASON I AM DEPRESSED  AND ALSO MY BAD HEARING  WHICH FOR THE HEARING LOSS I AM SERVICE CONNECTED AT 90% FOR THAT.

Yes I am damn near completely deaf  but unfortunately not by VA Standards  reason the 90% but was given TDIU P&T  BACK IN 2002/2003 Actually my  S.C.hearing loss is 80% and they gave me 10% for tinnitus  making my rating a 90% combined rating...but being paid at the 100%rate also since then I filed a PTSD CLAIM and was 70% rated for that..that got me up to the SMC S pay scale for a final 100% degree rating

SO SERVICE CONNECTED AT 70% FOR THE CHRONIC PTSD WOULD CAUSE THE DEPRESSION?

OR IS THE HEARING LOSS A REASON TO FILE FOR THE MDD?

AS I UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T HAVE TWO MENTAL DISORDERS TOGETHER  SO DEPRESSION WOULD BE A MENTAL DISORDER  CORRECT?

Anybody know?

Thank you all in  Advance

Edited June 3, 2020 by Buck52

[GBArmy]

Buck Major Depressive Disorder is dc 9434. Generalized Anxiety Disorder is dc 9400. As you know with MH conditions they usually can't give you more than one, so they rate you for the highest that is the worse condition. That is because many of the symptoms for different MH conditions are similar, so pyramiding.I believe that they also have to make note that you are also s-c for each one. Don't know if they note it on your rate sheet as "0" rating or what. I'm not sure about depression secondary to PTSD, but depression certainly could be caused by 80% hearing! But you already have a MH rating.

[kanewnut]

To me they all fall under 38 CFR §4.130   Schedule of ratings—Mental disorders.

9400   Generalized anxiety disorder

9403   Specific phobia; social anxiety disorder (social phobia)

9404   Obsessive compulsive disorder

9410   Other specified anxiety disorder

9411   Posttraumatic stress disorder

9412   Panic disorder and/or agoraphobia

9413   Unspecified anxiety disorder

9425   Illness anxiety disorder

9431   Cyclothymic disorder

9432   Bipolar disorder

9433   Persistent depressive disorder (dysthymia)

9434   Major depressive disorder

9435   Unspecified depressive disorder

9440   Chronic adjustment disorder 

General Rating Formula for Mental Disorders

	Rating
Total occupational and social impairment, due to such symptoms as: gross impairment in thought processes or communication; persistent delusions or hallucinations; grossly inappropriate behavior; persistent danger of hurting self or others; intermittent inability to perform activities of daily living (including maintenance of minimal personal hygiene); disorientation to time or place; memory loss for names of close relatives, own occupation, or own name.	100
Occupational and social impairment, with deficiencies in most areas, such as work, school, family relations, judgment, thinking, or mood, due to such symptoms as: suicidal ideation; obsessional rituals which interfere with routine activities; speech intermittently illogical, obscure, or irrelevant; near-continuous panic or depression affecting the ability to function independently, appropriately and effectively; impaired impulse control (such as unprovoked irritability with periods of violence); spatial disorientation; neglect of personal appearance and hygiene; difficulty in adapting to stressful circumstances (including work or a worklike setting); inability to establish and maintain effective relationships.	70
Occupational and social impairment with reduced reliability and productivity due to such symptoms as: flattened affect; circumstantial, circumlocutory, or stereotyped speech; panic attacks more than once a week; difficulty in understanding complex commands; impairment of short- and long-term memory (e.g., retention of only highly learned material, forgetting to complete tasks); impaired judgment; impaired abstract thinking; disturbances of motivation and mood; difficulty in establishing and maintaining effective work and social relationships.	50
Occupational and social impairment with occasional decrease in work efficiency and intermittent periods of inability to perform occupational tasks (although generally functioning satisfactorily, with routine behavior, self-care, and conversation normal), due to such symptoms as: depressed mood, anxiety, suspiciousness, panic attacks (weekly or less often), chronic sleep impairment, mild memory loss (such as forgetting names, directions, recent events).	30
Occupational and social impairment due to mild or transient symptoms which decrease work efficiency and ability to perform occupational tasks only during periods of significant stress, or symptoms controlled by continuous medication.	10
A mental condition has been formally diagnosed, but symptoms are not severe enough either to interfere with occupational and social functioning or to require continuous medication.

[Buck52]

GB yes I understand  what you mention  but they do give a rating for Hearing loss at 100% and a rating for MDD at 100%.

if they show different DC CODES then its supposed to be separate rating?

As I understand   broncovet is rated 100% for the two..100% hearing  loss and 100% MDD. and should render him the SMC -S   he just got his EED back pay for this. and they missed paying hi his dependents payments  so he has to refile a retro Audit

This is why I ask if they can rate the two separately?

[Buck52]

WELL I got the 9413 unspecified anxiety disorder rated with my PTSD  @70% 

But do they rate the 9434   Major depressive disorder separate for a secondary to my hearing loss?

I got the hearing loss at 80% plus 10% for tinnitus.  90%combined rating  and they gave me the 70% for the PTSD which is a separate /& distinct claim from H.L. . And was eligible for the SMC -S

I HAVE Major Depression And its likely a 100% rating. according to my  VA Phyistrist 

I was thinking about filing a secondary claim for it due to my   S.C.Hearing loss.

Anyone know?

 

Edited June 3, 2020 by Buck52

[Buck52]

Thank you kanewnut for those Dianostic Codes.

I appreciate it.