Ask For Sex If She's Sober

[purple]

This story was sent to me by another woman veteran....disturbs me greatly that a woman, with that much "power" in the Pentagon would say something like this, and it was obviously covered up, well not anymore! I've also passed this along to Jim Strickland and asked him to make it public in his special way!!

Time to send Ms Whitely some correspondence, don't you think?..........

25% increase in sex assault in combat zones: 'Wait until she's sober,' says Pentagon watchdog

BY Richard Sisk

DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

Updated Wednesday, March 25th 2009, 12:44 PM

The Pentagon is launching a sex assault prevention camapign which advises soldies to "ask her when she's sober."

WASHINGTON - It didn't get the attention of President Obama's recent Special Olympics. gaffe, but a "wait until she's sober" crack by the military's top sex crimes watchdog was more offensive, one New York lawmaker says.

"This woman is not in the right line of work," Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-Rochester) said of the statement last week by Dr. Kaye Whitley, director of the Pentagon's Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Office.

Whitley's bizarre quote came as she released the military's annual report on sex assault, which showed a 25% increase in combat zones, including 22 cases in Afghanistan and 143 in Iraq.

In pitching "bystander intervention" to curb attacks and harassment, Whitley gave this example: "If you see one of your buddies serve drinks to somebody to get them drunk, maybe what you do is step in and say 'Why don't you wait until she's sober?'"

Slaughter was aghast. "I was really shocked anyone would say a thing like that," she said.

In effect, Whitley was telling the troops to "go after her when she's sober - that says she's fair game," added Slaughter, who sponsored the legislation that required the military to report annually on sex assaults and its efforts to curb them.

In a written response to The News, Whitley said Slaughter did not "hear the statement in the context of the overall prevention strategy of the Department."

The statement came from a poster in a military marketing campaign called "Our Strength is for Defending" that is aimed at prevention, Whitley said.

The poster reads: "My Strength is for Defending, so when I saw that she was drunk, I told him, 'Ask her when she's sober.' Preventing sexual assault is part of my duty."

Whitley's annual report showed that the number of sex assaults in the 1.4 million-member active-duty military increased 8% to 2,908 in the year ending in September 2008.

Whitley noted that only about 20% of the attacks are reported because of "the fear and stigma associated with the crime."

Just 38% of the cases that were reported eventually were referred to a court martial, she said.

"This is one of the problems," said Rachel Natelson, a lawyer at the Veterans and Servicemembers Project of the Urban Justice Center in Manhattan. "It's a lack of consequences. People think they can act with impunity."

[peacecindia]

I'm having a problem with the 'Just Ask Her When She's Sober'

military campaign.

Is the military teaching men to ASK sober women for sex?

What about drunk women?

What does the military want men to do if the woman is not sober and not completely drunk?

What if there are no sober women to ask?

What if a man just asks her when she's sober and she still says 'No'?

So, if she says no when she's sober and does not say anything when she's

drunk or passed out, wouldn't it make better sense to wait until she's good and drunk?

The military has created a new technique.

ASK FOR SEX IF SHE'S SOBER.

[Meddac]

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Comment From Pentagon Watchdog...disturbing For Women Vets

[peacecindia]

I'd agree.

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[carlie]

purple,

I merged this post in with yours.

carlie

[peacecindia]

Decent people will understand the message and do not need

to be reminded 'Just Ask Her When She's Sober'. Or No means No.

No could become yes eventually, so just ask her when she's sober.

If you get punched or kicked or she points a loaded M-16

at you, DONT ASK AGAIN EVEN WHEN SHE IS SOBER.

The message invites a bystander to ask the

person who wants to get someone drunk, loose, sexy, warmed-up to take advantage

of them to lose the money they spent at the bar and instead wait & Just ask her when she's sober.

Is the military hanging these posters at the bars and clubs on post/zone?

This really could apply to males and females, but then you'd have

to think about 'Don't ASK, Don't TELL and Just ASK her when she's sober'.

Now, does 'Just ask her when she's sober mean to ASK HER IF SHE'S SOBER?

I do not wish for anyone to have bad luck, but maybe she does need to be made an example of.

I guess maybe her child is a whore and only has sex when she is sober. This is very degrading to

to all of us that have MST with PTSD.

[purple]

The whole thing disgusts me. This woman needs to be fired immediately. This "campaign" is just a CYA measure for the military. Well, they can try to CYA all they want....rape is rape. Sober, drunk or any other way.