Got Out Of Hearing Couple Hours Ago

[hulamatt]

Called my NSO last week, to talk about my claim, he had someone else call me, was told i was given 30 mins before hearing to talk to him.... i get there at 10, hearings at 10:30, he is told by another nso thats there that im here, he comes from the back and calls another guy in...the lady is like Mr Trevino is here, he goes i know....So its about 10:16 and im about to say F this guy im going to the meeting alone, he finally comes out, goes the the bathroom....LMAO Comes back and calls me back, At this point im furious, but i dont want my claim to get messed up, and i dont need this guy pissed because im mad at him, I was told he read my c file a week ago, so im like were good to go

We get there, i pull out my papers, and basically state my case (Hearing is for determination on whether my discharge was honorable), The NSO starts basically asking for lienence which is good, but is not what i was trying to argue, then hes like he wasnt kicked out for drugs or alchol, or being awol.....and then im like yeah i was awol, and hes like how long and im like 200 days thats why i was put out....Made my case, stated i was insane, quoted med records, brought up the fact that it doesnt matter if this period in service is honorable or not i was DXed within a year of my last periord of service....although it would be good that they decide in my favor for this period of service, cause then i could get education benefits, for being put out of a disability(i hope) Saw my C file on the desk it was pretty big, especially since im only claiming one thing, guess ive sent in a lot more stuff than i thought

Anyways I would like to officialy complain about this NSO hes with the DAV Chicago, the lady who was basically telling him wtf are you doing hes here he has a meeting in 30 mins, seems like shes always on target, i bet she is a good nso id like to have her, either that or switch to american legion, cause this guy just man.....did not do his homework,

[john999]

You know about 40 years ago I had a discharge review before a board. It was composed of an Army officer and some civilians. My representative was a guy from the Red Cross. He did such a good job, and I looked so pathetic my discharge was upgraded almost the same day. The story he told was so sad some of the people were actually crying. Then I began to feel so sorry for myself I felt like crying. That was the last rep that was worth a damn. I think the officer wanted to hang me, but the civilians were on my side. I think a lot depends on the public mood in these things. If the public feels the enlisted have been crapped on you get a break. It helps to be a war vet and to be young.

If you really were insane and went awol for the reasons you describe it would be justice for you to win. God knows what those SOB's think who sit in judgement. That NSO should be hanged. He put the burden of presenting your case on your back. Now they see a guy who can present facts and think "this guys is not crazy". Just wait and see how it goes. Do you have a time frame?

[hulamatt]

You know about 40 years ago I had a discharge review before a board. It was composed of an Army officer and some civilians. My representative was a guy from the Red Cross. He did such a good job, and I looked so pathetic my discharge was upgraded almost the same day. The story he told was so sad some of the people were actually crying. Then I began to feel so sorry for myself I felt like crying. That was the last rep that was worth a damn. I think the officer wanted to hang me, but the civilians were on my side. I think a lot depends on the public mood in these things. If the public feels the enlisted have been crapped on you get a break. It helps to be a war vet and to be young.

If you really were insane and went awol for the reasons you describe it would be justice for you to win. God knows what those SOB's think who sit in judgement. That NSO should be hanged. He put the burden of presenting your case on your back. Now they see a guy who can present facts and think "this guys is not crazy". Just wait and see how it goes. Do you have a time frame?

NSO said october, VA reps said soon, not gonna hold my breath, ill probably compain on 1800 number in october if it isnt there they will send a message to RO , and ill see it by Nov. then wait another year for a decision if im lucky

[JamesBreckenridge]

October 1 is the first of our new fiscal year. Stations and departments are trying to hit targets. Your claim ought to be either a quick grant or a quick denial. It's a single-issue claim, which makes it fast moving.

I'm curious whether the rating specialist or decision review officer asked any questions or made any observations about your claim.

[hulamatt]

October 1 is the first of our new fiscal year. Stations and departments are trying to hit targets. Your claim ought to be either a quick grant or a quick denial. It's a single-issue claim, which makes it fast moving.

I'm curious whether the rating specialist or decision review officer asked any questions or made any observations about your claim.

yeah they made me specifically say i was claiming i was insane, and then asked if i believe i didnt know right from wrong, so i started telling them i was trying to go back to fort knox and be brainwashed again , and thought i was going to kill people, and was hospitalized.....they didnt ask about it after that....Then they asked the specific dates, that i was DXed and what hospital, and what the finding was....And then asked what exactly went down at my discharge and i told them my JAG lawyer said after i told him my story that i needed to go to mental health because i have a good claim for insanity, then he said we could fight it and win the court martial, but id still be kicked out anyways because of the disease, and i could possibly lose and go to jail, so i said ill go home and take the OTH, was also told it wouldnt bar me from benifits, which technically it does, but with the insanity thing it doesnt, so they were wrong but it looks like im ok, but my schizo was really bad during my discharge, and i was LOS the whole time because they thought i was nuts, I should have fought it. in the next couple of days im going to put in additional claims, tinnitus, and LBP, but maybe not since id probably get 10% for each which in VA math wouldnt really do anything i dont think

OH and the VA rep took alot of notes as i was talking, and they were questions she had for me, she got to all of them

Edited August 17, 2010 by hulamatt

[john999]

Your JAG did a nice job of sticking up for you.....not. The military might have discharged you for being crazy, but you don't get a LTH discharge for that. You get a medical discharge for that. The military takes advantage of really mentally sick people. They get the JAG to scare you to death so you will sign anything.

[JamesBreckenridge]

yeah they made me specifically say i was claiming i was insane, and then asked if i believe i didnt know right from wrong, so i started telling them i was trying to go back to fort knox and be brainwashed again , and thought i was going to kill people, and was hospitalized.....they didnt ask about it after that....Then they asked the specific dates, that i was DXed and what hospital, and what the finding was....And then asked what exactly went down at my discharge and i told them my JAG lawyer said after i told him my story that i needed to go to mental health because i have a good claim for insanity, then he said we could fight it and win the court martial, but id still be kicked out anyways because of the disease, and i could possibly lose and go to jail, so i said ill go home and take the OTH, was also told it wouldnt bar me from benifits, which technically it does, but with the insanity thing it doesnt, so they were wrong but it looks like im ok, but my schizo was really bad during my discharge, and i was LOS the whole time because they thought i was nuts, I should have fought it. in the next couple of days im going to put in additional claims, tinnitus, and LBP, but maybe not since id probably get 10% for each which in VA math wouldnt really do anything i dont think

OH and the VA rep took alot of notes as i was talking, and they were questions she had for me, she got to all of them

If you get granted service connection for schizophrenia, theres'a very good chance it'll be at 100 percent, so the tinnitus and low back pain won't matter. Be prepared to be also declared incompetent, and have a fiduciary assigned for you. If you're as sick as you say, that's probably in your best interest.