Same Ole Va! New Veterans To Play Games With.

[Bigred122]

Have you seen the latest shaft to Veterans taking place? Some Veterans were asked to go into some specialized MOSs and the VA offered to pay the Vets $10,000 after they finished the training and after they finish 3 more years of service in that specialized trainning they would get the second $10k. Everyone got their first $10k, but no one is getting the second payment.In fact, the VA now says the program was a mistake and they want their money back from the Vets.I guess there is 5 vets just in the State of oregon who this has happened to, but they know that this goes clear across the nation. And it entails several different specialized MOS in all services and are shortage MOSs.So like the song goes" The Times are a Changing!!" Theres no money for the current system of Veterans,so thats why they are not approving any new claims or additional benefits. Don't have to pay if no decision is made! Even if a budget is agreed upon, times are coming when they will reexamine any and all past,present and future claims.In the past, close decisions went to the Veteran. Soon, even the not so close claims will be losses for the Vets.I expect that soon all these different pensions disability,SSD, Federal and etc... will be either or and not both or all of the above. And the words "Justice for all" will be changed to" Proverty for all"!! The writing is on the wall,I don't know for sure, but I think it's in Chinese!! Mike

[carlie]

Theres no money for the current system of Veterans,so thats why they are not approving any new claims or additional benefits. Don't have to pay if no decision is made! Even if a budget is agreed upon, times are coming when they will reexamine any and all past,present and future claims.In the past, close decisions went to the Veteran. Soon, even the not so close claims will be losses for the Vets.I expect that soon all these different pensions disability,SSD, Federal and etc... will be either or and not both or all of the above. And the words "Justice for all" will be changed to" Proverty for all"!! The writing is on the wall,I don't know for sure, but I think it's in Chinese!! Mike

The funds are there - claims aren't being denied or not rated because VA doesn't have

the funds.

The sky's not falling !

People don't listen to it and don't be afraid.

[Testvet]

I have never heard of a program where the VA paid bonus money for soldiers or other military people to enlist or re-enlist in any MOS the Army, Navy, AF, Marines and CG pay their own bonuses that are authorized by DOD as far as I know the VA has never paid bonus money for MOS training or staying in a certain MOS for 3 years the VA has issues but paying DOD's bonuses is not one of them

[john999]

I think those currently receiving those benefits will be grandfathered in, but younger vets may get screw job and NSC vets will get screwed first on medical care. Means testing is something we should not tolerate since it separates vets into "Welfare Vets" and 'Non Welfare Vets". I could not even get local VVA or any other VSO to just stand or sit in front of VARO with signs for an hour. I do fear that politicians will make vets choose between SSD and 100% VA. I already get screwed out of 60% of federal disability pension because I get SSD. SSA and SSD are already means tested since you get taxed on those benefits if you make more than some thousands of bucks in income. Means testing for medicare, VA compensation or SSA is betrayal.

[Bigred122]

I have never heard of a program where the VA paid bonus money for soldiers or other military people to enlist or re-enlist in any MOS the Army, Navy, AF, Marines and CG pay their own bonuses that are authorized by DOD as far as I know the VA has never paid bonus money for MOS training or staying in a certain MOS for 3 years the VA has issues but paying DOD's bonuses is not one of them

http://merkley.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/?id=89C50948-6557-4626-B86E-521EB6F6CE7F

Heres the whole story.I heard about it from my Congressmans Vet Rep. They are not afraid of Oregons Congress Critters. They have been blowing them off for months I see. I told him that they are no longer feared by their own government.Years ago they yeilded much power.Congress has lost all creditability with the people.The ones on the inside or outside.I gave up on mine about a month ago. They had no spine. Mike

[USNDW]

So what does the VA have to do with this story? It was the National Guard that boned it

[Bigred122]

So what does the VA have to do with this story? It was the National Guard that boned it

It's just another example of the mindset the government has towards its Vets. Whether they are current or past Vets, DENY has many meanings. DENY that we even exist! DENY that we are either sick or injured. DENY every benefit till we Die! Deny even when it's in writing that We(government) promised that.See, they even have you doing it.(DENY) The National Guard did it! Government is Government. Did someone Privatize the services and I missed it? Now is the time to use the Catch Phrase of 2011, " Follow the Money!!" They(pick a name) is coming to get the money promised back from the Veterans now. Soon They(pick a name) will be auditing your file, your life and will be holding out Their(pick a name) hands open to get back what they once PROMISED YOU! Are your promises from them(pick a name) any different than theirs were. Doesn't matter whos name is on the door when you got the money.If they want it back and you don't pay it, guess what the badge on the person collecting the money will have a different Dept. name than the one who gave you the money. " The Times they are a Changing!! ".Knock Knock, whose there? The Government."What do you want?" We want Our money Back! "I don't have your money"!! Yes you do, look in your wallet. "Thats my money, not yours". Look again, whose name is on it? "United States of America"! See I told you, it's OUR MONEY!! Next!!