rwoods04 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Do you get a rating for unspecified depressive disorder? I was asking because at my C&P I was diasnoged with that instead of PTSD.Thanks rwskitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Moderator broncovet Posted February 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Maybe. First, as usual, the disorder needs to be service connected, with the "big 3" of current diagnosis, in service event or aggravation, and nexus between the two. Assuming you have all these 3, All mental disorders that are SC are rated on symptoms, and all use the same general rating schedule. 4.130 Schedule of ratings—mental disorders. The nomenclature employed in this portion of the rating schedule is based upon the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-IV). Rating agencies must be thoroughly familiar with this manual to properly implement the directives in § 4.125 through § 4.129and to apply the general rating formula for mental disorders in § 4.130. The schedule for rating for mental disorders is set forth as follows: Rating Note: An incapacitating episode is a period during which bed rest and treatment by a physician are required. Schizophrenia and Other Psychotic Disorders 9201Schizophrenia, disorganized type 9202Schizophrenia, catatonic type 9203Schizophrenia, paranoid type 9204Schizophrenia, undifferentiated type 9205Schizophrenia, residual type; other and unspecified types 9208Delusional disorder 9210Psychotic disorder, not otherwise specified (atypical psychosis) 9211Schizoaffective disorder Delirium, Dementia, and Amnestic and Other Cognitive Disorders 9300Delirium 9301Dementia due to infection (HIV infection, syphilis, or other systemic or intracranial infections) 9304Dementia due to head trauma 9305Vascular dementia 9310Dementia of unknown etiology 9312Dementia of the Alzheimer's type 9326Dementia due to other neurologic or general medical conditions (endocrine disorders, metabolic disorders, Pick's disease, brain tumors, etc.) or that are substance-induced (drugs, alcohol, poisons) 9327Organic mental disorder, other (including personality change due to a general medical condition) Anxiety Disorders 9400Generalized anxiety disorder 9403Specific (simple) phobia; social phobia 9404Obsessive compulsive disorder 9410Other and unspecified neurosis 9411Posttraumatic stress disorder 9412Panic disorder and/or agoraphobia 9413Anxiety disorder, not otherwise specified Dissociative Disorders 9416Dissociative amnesia; dissociative fugue; dissociative identity disorder (multiple personality disorder) 9417Depersonalization disorder Somatoform Disorders 9421Somatization disorder 9422Pain disorder 9423Undifferentiated somatoform disorder 9424Conversion disorder 9425Hypochondriasis Mood Disorders 9431Cyclothymic disorder 9432Bipolar disorder 9433Dysthymic disorder 9434Major depressive disorder 9435Mood disorder, not otherwise specified Chronic Adjustment Disorder 9440Chronic adjustment disorder General Rating Formula for Mental Disorders: Total occupational and social impairment, due to such symptoms as: gross impairment in thought processes or communication; persistent delusions or hallucinations; grossly inappropriate behavior; persistent danger of hurting self or others; intermittent inability to perform activities of daily living (including maintenance of minimal personal hygiene); disorientation to time or place; memory loss for names of close relatives, own occupation, or own name 100 Occupational and social impairment, with deficiencies in most areas, such as work, school, family relations, judgment, thinking, or mood, due to such symptoms as: suicidal ideation; obsessional rituals which interfere with routine activities; speech intermittently illogical, obscure, or irrelevant; near-continuous panic or depression affecting the ability to function independently, appropriately and effectively; impaired impulse control (such as unprovoked irritability with periods of violence); spatial disorientation; neglect of personal appearance and hygiene; difficulty in adapting to stressful circumstances (including work or a worklike setting); inability to establish and maintain effective relationships 70 Occupational and social impairment with reduced reliability and productivity due to such symptoms as: flattened affect; circumstantial, circumlocutory, or stereotyped speech; panic attacks more than once a week; difficulty in understanding complex commands; impairment of short- and long-term memory (e.g., retention of only highly learned material, forgetting to complete tasks); impaired judgment; impaired abstract thinking; disturbances of motivation and mood; difficulty in establishing and maintaining effective work and social relationships 50 Occupational and social impairment with occasional decrease in work efficiency and intermittent periods of inability to perform occupational tasks (although generally functioning satisfactorily, with routine behavior, self-care, and conversation normal), due to such symptoms as: depressed mood, anxiety, suspiciousness, panic attacks (weekly or less often), chronic sleep impairment, mild memory loss (such as forgetting names, directions, recent events) 30 Occupational and social impairment due to mild or transient symptoms which decrease work efficiency and ability to perform occupational tasks only during periods of significant stress, or; symptoms controlled by continuous medication 10 A mental condition has been formally diagnosed, but symptoms are not severe enough either to interfere with occupational and social functioning or to require continuous medication Edited February 4, 2016 by broncovet rwskitch and flores97 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Moderator broncovet Posted February 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 4, 2016 As you can see there are several mental disorders that are in the "other" categories: 9435 "other" mood disorder 9210 Psychotic disorder, not otherwise specified (atypical psychosis) It probably wont matter much which category your disorder is in, as long as you get Service connected for it, and you have documented the applicable symptoms. ArNG11, pumibel, flores97 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rwoods04 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Thanks broncovet pumibel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DocC03 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 2 hours ago, rwoods04 said: Do you get a rating for unspecified depressive disorder? I was asking because at my C&P I was diasnoged with that instead of PTSD.Thanks A few things to keep in mind. The criteria for PTSD changed in the newest DSM manual. Please review it and you will see the new guidelines. Effectively making it slightly more difficult to show PTSD. Also I am seeing a lot more people with rating for other psychological disorders instead of PTSD. Also I am seeing diagnoses of things like anxiety disorder where the Doc actually meant PTSD. If you truly do have PTSD don't be afraid to get service connected for depressive disorder like Broncovet said but I would personally continue to fight for a PTSD rating to replace the depressive disorder. flores97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rwoods04 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Thanks, DocC03 My question is should I modify my claim to include anxiety or depressive disorder, my claim is still in the appeal stages. pumibel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HadIt.com Elder Buck52 Posted February 4, 2016 HadIt.com Elder Share Posted February 4, 2016 I believe I'd go with the PTSD Claim if you been dx with it? Depression disorders can show improvement and PTSD is usually controlled with Medications and never show improvement so if they rate you with a depressive disorder you will probably get a TEMP rating jmo Buck flores97, rwskitch and pumibel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Do you get a rating for unspecified depressive disorder? I was asking because at my C&P I was diasnoged with that instead of PTSD.
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As you can see there are several mental disorders that are in the "other" categories: 9435 "other" mood disorder 9210 Psychotic disorder, not otherwise specified (atypical psychosi
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I believe I'd go with the PTSD Claim if you been dx with it? Depression disorders can show improvement and PTSD is usually controlled with Medications and never show improvement so if they ra
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Whoa Hoss! Last I knew Veterans are NOT competent to diagnose their own mental health disorders. (An obvious exception is if the Veteran is a mental health professional) So, for example, mayb
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