New (news) Rlease About Veterans Service Comission

[Bound4heaven]

Greetings,

This is the latest release from VAwatchdog.org. I varified the story by contacting Rep: Evans office.

God bless you all! The fight is on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bound4Heaven

Vets’ Commission Chair gets OK to Study Social Security Benefits

SHORT HEAD: Vets’ Commission SSDI Study

by Larry Scott

General Terry Scott asked Congress to interpret its own law defining the charter of the Vet’s Commission. Unbelievably, and unconstitutionally, four key Members of Congress gave Scott the OK to study vets who get Social Security disability benefits and VA compensation. Scott’s goal is an offset, a reduction, in vets’ benefits. At stake: Veterans’ benefits, veterans’ privacy and the constitutional separation of powers.

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It’s called the Vets’ Commission. The full name is the Veterans’ Disability Benefits Commission (VDBC). Chaired by Retired U.S. Army Lt. General Terry Scott, the VDBC is chartered to determine “whether a veteran’s disability or death should be compensated” and at what level, if any.

To many veterans, the VDBC’s central theme is plainly amoral. Who would dare ask if a “veteran’s disability or death should be compensated?” Many vets believe the VDBC was formed for the sole purpose of finding ways to cut their benefits.

Gen. Scott has done nothing to dispel that perception. Scott is pushing the VDBC to not only study veterans’ compensation from the Department of Veterans’ Affairs (VA) but is actively lobbying other VDBC members to study veterans who receive Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) even though the two forms of compensation have nothing to do with each other.

To accomplish his goal, Gen. Scott needed clarification of the VDBC’s charter because it does not mention Social Security benefits. Scott wrote four Congressional Committees asking them to, unconstitutionally, interpret the law that established the VDBC. (I wrote about this last week. Article here: http://www.vawatchdog.org/milcom/pushtocutvabenefits.htm )

Unbelievably, Gen. Scott not only got answers from four key lawmakers on Capitol Hill, but they give him the go-ahead to study any federal benefits that veterans might receive.

From a letter to Gen. Scott signed jointly by Rep. Steve Buyer (R-IN), Chairman of the House Committee on Veterans' Affairs and Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID), Chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs: "It is our opinion that you are not limited to evaluating only those benefits created for veterans, and a review of the mandate does not restrict your examination to title 10 or title 38...We would find helpful a thorough review of benefits provided in their totality. To look at the benefits provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Department of Defense (DoD) to the exclusion of others will not provide Congress with a complete understanding of the benefits that are provided to veterans and their survivors."

And, in a letter to Gen. Scott signed jointly by Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA), Chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services and Rep. Ike Skelton (D-MO), Ranking Member of the same Committee: "It is our view that a comprehensive review under the laws of the United States would inescapably include an examination of the Social Security Disability Insurance program and that the Commission would be remiss in its responsibilities if it were to choose to ignore any form of Federal compensation provided to such veterans."

The tacit approval of four Members of Congress gives Gen. Scott incredible leeway. The VDBC, given the above approvals, can study any benefits that veterans receive. The VDBC’s charter, however, states that the Commission can only study benefits provided for disability or death “attributable to military service.” Who has the correct interpretation?

There is disagreement in Congress concerning Gen. Scott’s plan. Rep. Lane Evans (D-IL), Ranking Democratic Member of the House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs, is adamantly opposed. In a letter to Gen. Scott, Evans wrote: “…a question as to the legislative intent of enacted laws is not the responsibility of Congress or congressional committees. If questions arise as to the legislative intent of an enacted statute, the Commission should seek a formal legal opinion from the Department of Justice…If the Commission believes that further clarification is needed, the Commission could seek a Declaratory Judgment from a court with proper jurisdiction.”

Then, Rep. Evans raises another legal point. He continues: “…I urge you to respect the privacy of veterans when considering matching any data that would require the use of Social Security numbers. The suggestion raised in the Commission's e-mail that ‘an analysis could compare veterans' SC [service-connected] disability codes to their SSA [social Security Administration] impairment codes’ raises serious questions as to the Commission's legal authority to obtain and use such data without the informed consent of the individual veterans. There are strict statutory limits on the ability of the Department of Veterans Affairs to obtain and use data from the Social Security Administration.”

Rep. Evans then adds this warning to Gen. Scott: “I also note that service-connected compensation benefits paid by the Department of Veterans Affairs are intended to compensate veterans for disabilities incurred or aggravated by military service. Social Security disability benefits are intended to compensate insured workers who have contributed to the Social Security program by payment of taxes on their earnings. These programs serve different purposes and have different eligibility criteria which could result in any proposed comparison turning into one of the proverbial ‘apples to oranges.’”

At the forefront of the opposition to Gen. Scott’s proposed study is the Disabled American Veterans (DAV), one of the country’s most respected veterans’ service organizations which has a membership of over 1.3 million disabled vets. The DAV has provided Gen. Scott with legal opinions opposing his intention to study SSDI. (See previous article.)

And, in a letter to Gen. Scott dated today (May 2, 2006), the DAV’s General Counsel, Christopher J. Clay, provides a legal summation that should, in theory, put the issue to rest. Clay writes: “The plain language of the statute creating the Commission supports the view that it is empowered to consider benefits payable under Title 38, United States Code. The statute specifies more than once that the Commission’s role is to study benefits provided for disability or death ‘attributable to military service.’ Given that SSDI is paid without regard to causation and to veterans and non-veterans alike, it is quite a stretch to include it within the Commission’s purview. The implication of this is self-evident. The Commission can limit itself to studying Title 38 benefits without much fear of challenge, while a foray into SSDI invites collateral controversy.”

Clay continues: “Should the Commission seek to include SSDI as a topic of investigation…its enabling legislation does not provide a bulletproof basis on which to do so and that additional authority is needed. Frankly, I am not certain what that authority would be. I am certain that it is not post-enactment guidance from the United States Congress or some committee thereof. The United States Supreme Court has confirmed that such ‘authority’ has no value.”

Then Clay sets forward a scenario that could tie up the VDBC for years. Clay writes: “I suppose that some might consider looking for the additional authority in the form of a declaratory judgment, but it is unclear to me who the parties to that litigation would be, unless disagreeing Commissioners wanted to start suing each other. Conversely, if the Commission simply chose to expand its focus to include SSDI, it would almost certainly invite a declaratory judgment lawsuit from a disabled veteran, a veterans’ organization or both…The Commission has two choices. The first is to limit its investigation to Title 38 benefits, thereby embracing a clear and unassailable interpretation of its enabling legislation. The second is to expand its investigation to include SSDI, thereby almost guaranteeing collateral litigation...”

Where does this leave us? Gen. Scott, with his new-found “authority” from four Members of Congress, could tell the VDBC they are studying SSDI benefits for veterans. In theory, this should be voted on by the 13 Commission members. Which presents another problem. Many feel the VDBC is a politically-stacked deck with nine members being appointed by Republicans, including the President, and only four members being appointed by Democratic legislators. There is an overwhelming feeling in the veterans’ community that the Commission majority is intent on finding ways to cut vets’ benefits.

If the VDBC studies SSDI and recommends a payment offset to VA benefits, many disabled veterans could find their income decimated. An offset would mean that the veteran could receive one of the payments (the higher dollar amount) but not both. Also of importance is the fact that at age 65 SSDI benefits revert to regular Social Security. This would mean the payments recognized as Social Security “retirement” would be reduced, as well.

This complicated situation should be decided at the VDBC’s May 19 meeting. Concerned veterans and their families are urged to write Commission members, especially Gen. Scott. The Commission’s email is: veterans@vetscommission.intranets.com . For more information on the VDBC and its members go to: http://www.vetscommission.org/index.htm .

(NOTE: All pertinent documents are available upon request.)

© 2006 Larry Scott / VA Watchdog dot Org

Larry Scott

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Web www.vawatchdog.org

[john999]

I just sent General Scott another email that piece of trash. I bet he sits on many boards collecting paychecks. I bet he plays a lot of golf as well. Maybe he uses a wheelchair bound vet as his caddy. These guys are pigs.

[tiso787]

Why was I not surprized to see Steve Buyers name. this guy wanted to re-define of what a "disabled veteran" was.

Peter

[shamrock]

I am so ashame of gen. scott, buyers and craig. I will not even give them the honor putting their first letter as caps. What we are fighting against is a general who thinks we are his troops that he can command us at any time to follow his directions. His retirement pay is too much and then he takes these appointments to make more money. This way he can go over his allowed retirement and still thinks he is on active duty to command us. All generals thinks all enlisted soldiers are deadbeats, so now all veterans are deadbeats and he is going to clean us up & get us back to work as he would his soldiers. Instead of fighting against us, he should be fighting for us, who better knows about service and war injuries. buyers & craig plus others are his lt. to do the dirty work

[mssoup1]

Would a veteran be at risk if he is drawing VA disability compensation and also SSD, but the SSD is not related to his military?

Thanks

mssoup1

[Guest elizabeth]

Would a veteran be at risk if he is drawing VA disability compensation and also SSD, but the SSD is not related to his military?

Thanks

mssoup1

I h612ope i can reach as many veterans as possible there is a newsletter called what every should know write veterans information service p.o box 111 east maline il 61244 the cost is only 29.00 a year it vwill give everyone all up to date information as to your question i don;t think ssd would apply va payments are tax free don;t worry i think you are ok Elizabeth

[jlshand]

Here is a copy of the email I sent to the trashbag Scott

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