Possible Cue?

[caubulldog]

I was discharged as one of the members of the personality disorder that is infamous with the service. On my separation physical it clearly notes treatment for depression with notes to follow up with private care. I filed my original service claim within one year of discharge and the rating decision has no mention of the depression that is clearly marked on my physical. Since then I was inpatient once and am on outpatient long term treatment for depression. Is this a possible cue since it is clearly documented on my military paperwork? I have not filed for initial service connection yet on this.

[caubulldog]

What about secondary to a chronic painful injury that is already service connected? My primary would back me up on this,but would likely have to pay for private shrink for the Imo.

[pacmanx1]

That may be possible but keep in mind that the new mental health doctor would need to review all your records even the rating decision that states that you have a personality disorder to give you a balance for VA to consider. As was stated by wings, your psyche report is very damaging so you will need something to overcome that report or something that would be as strong to equal it out.

[SLEDGE]

You are assumed to be fit for duty and 'free of defects' when you enter the service.

UNLESS on the entrance physical exam a condition is noted.

They put personality disorder on everybody because they don't want personality disorders running loose in the military.

From what we have seen, somebody hasn't got a clue.

This personality disorder crap is not something that develops overnight.

It's a fundamental defect that would have kept you from being in the military, like a club foot or a missing thumb.

If they are just looking for bodies to fill uniforms they will accept almost anyone.

Cannon fodder requires a lower standard of smarts and health.

But, they have to declare you as being free of defects before you enlist.

Anything that shows up after you are accepted into the service is SERVICE CONNECTED.

There is a certain time period that you have to complete before becoming officially accepted.

I'm no longer sure of that time period, it used to be 180 days.

Pass the initial healthy time period, get whatever it is into your records, have it diagnosed after you get out and get one specialist to connect the dots so you can file the claim.

You can't be found to be fit for duty and then, a couple of years later, be found to have a fundamental disorder.

It's apples and oranges, water and oil.

Hell, they didn't come up with the personality disorder thing on me until I had been out for ten years.

I got the PTSD DX at 16 years out from a private shrink.

The VA changed my DX from personality disorder to PTSD after 28 years out.

While I was following orders and fighting a war they called my medical condition 'Nerves'.

Treated with barbiturates.

sledge

[SLEDGE]

Even if you did state that you had the personality disorder prior to service, that means nothing without the pre-service treatment records.

If your personality disorder was known before you enlisted, the service would not have accepted you.

Almost every time, the claimant is not recognized as being capable of making a medical, mental or fundamental personality disorder diagnosis.

We are not trained for, and therefore not qualified to make any medical determinations about our own medical or mental conditions.

Legally, by VA law we are all medical idiots unless proven otherwise.

Everything has to have a basis in fact and that normally means medical records to back up the facts.

The rating jerks will make you into a Greek God or lazy bum depending on what is required to deny your claim.

Facts and common sense don't matter much.

sledge

[Ricky]

There is no CUE. According to your medical records there will be no rating for depression either as those with a personality disorder often have bouts of depression. The only way you will be able to go back to an original filed claim (which I think does not exists due to your statement) would be an IMO indicating that the original diagnosis was wrong. If you now have a claim in which you have pain and it affects your daily living then aggravation of your depression may allow you to file a new claim in the depression arena. jmho unless I missed something somewhere. As others stated below it is hard to beat an original diagnosis of a PD.

[caubulldog]

I appreciate everyone's input and there was no way I would have been allowed into the reserves or active with a pd. It is a matter of bad diagnosis from dod & va. I will fight this as soon as I have all my records from service.Already have all of my inpatient & outpatient va records. This will be a tough fight but I think possible with a doctor's support.