ptsd Crap - Fighting The New Ptsd Regs Were Struck Down

[carlie]

http://www.vawatchdog.org/uploads/10-7136.pdf

[Berta]

It is TERRIBLE news !!!!!

I wonder if this can be pushed into a higher court.

I can understand some of the logic behind assuming that VA MH providers know PTSD well enough to diagnosis it properly - but the MMPI Combat related test can do that too.

There are certainly independent MH doctors out there who also can diagnose PTSD.

This is just awful news.

I personally think the main impetus for that clause in the original new PTSD regulations was to save MONEY.

&^%$#@!$%%^&*

[Pete53]

Expect it to get a lot tougher as we move away from these wars or police actions

[Chuck75]

The appeals court ruling will undoubtedly end up back in court. A possible example might be a veteran diagnosed with PTSD, and awarded SSDI by SSA, and then denied for SC by the VA.

This can easily invoke other sections of the "rules" and law.

[john999]

We will be in Afghanistan at least two more years. The VA sees this surge of veterans who have been exposed to combat conditions and they just do not want to pay the cost of PTSD claims. I trust the VA about as far as I can throw them. They misdiagnosed me for years and low balled me for decades. If not for IMO's I would still be at 30%. I agree with all that it will get harder to get a PTSD DX from the VA. Everyone on that court needs to experience a fast and dirty C&P exam at the VA to see just how bad they are at making a good DX. The number of PD and adjustment disorder DX's will rise. Soon the vet will have to be stark, raving mad to get a MH disagnosis.

[Wings]

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SAME SHIT, DIFFERENT WAR.

[Berta]

John-I agree with you 100%-

The lousy C & P exams vets get for all sorts of disability claims ,which are then often overturned by successful IMos proves the point.

I wonder if there is any accountability chart at VA that shows just how many C & Ps are overcome by more evidence or thrown out because the C & P examiner is so medically inadequate to opine, that their opinions are mere speculation.

Mohatma Ghandi said that when one segment of a population loses their rights and equality, the entire population is detrimentally impacted on.

I have thought about that many times in the years I dealt with VA.

My point here is- if the VA eliminates the rights of PTSD vets under the new rules to obtain IMOs, when will they decide to take away that right for all other claimants too?

Wings said it all- same shit, different war.I agree 100% with that too.

I personally feel that since C & P docs are often proven to be off the mark, how the heck could they properly diagnose a veteran in a clinical setting.

To me lousy C & Ps border on malpractice but the VA doesnt view C& Ps that way.

And of course a VA paid C & P doc (as well as the QTCs) opine to the VA in the status of a "conflict of interest".

If we could have our claims handled the way a civil court handles cases,

things would sure be different but that will never happen.

This decision makes me think of the OIE OEF vet who VA kept denying ,saying he didnt have PTSD and after he committed suicide he was awarded PTSD SC posthumously.

The family recently filed FTCA for malpractice and I hope they get millions.

That sure shows how little some VA shrinks know about PTSD.