Navy To Offer Same-Sex Partner Benefits

[carlie]

"Navy to Offer Same-sex Partner Benefits

Week of February 18, 2013

The Department of Defense announced the extension of benefits to same-sex partners to ensure fairness and equal treatment to the extent allowable under law on Feb. 11.

The U.S. Navy will begin offering these benefits no later than Oct. 1.

To qualify, Sailors and their same-sex domestic partner will be required to sign a Declaration of Domestic Partnership, which is similar to that in use by other federal agencies.

Servicemembers will file the declaration at their PSD, where a DD Form 1173 ("dependent" ID card) will then be issued allowing access to benefits.

Children of same-sex domestic partners will also qualify for the ID card and benefits.

Benefit information and updates to policy on benefits for same-sex partners and families will be posted as they become available on Navy's Don't Ask Don't Tell Post Repeal website on Navy Personnel Command's web page under Support and Services.

For more military family support resources, visit the Military.com Family Center."

Full article:

http://www.military.com/military-report/navy-to-offer-same-sex-partner-benefits?ESRC=miltrep.nl

[Ridehard2208]

teac,

DUH - it deals directly with benefits for veterans and service members.

There is plenty of room for discussion - but not for political discussion.

For some reason you see as political - I see it as a civil right matter of equality,

that directly relates to all benefits and protections, enjoyed by those that are

legally recognized as "married".

How about this, try to explain to me how my same-sex partner of over 20 years

having her cremains buried in the same hole as mine at my nearest VA National Cemetery -

negatively effects, changes or belittles the marriage of someone such as yourself

or someone that is recognized as having the benefits and protections of a legally, contractual marriage.

I think we can remain civil and without dragging in politics on this.

Carlie, As I was typing the previous post and taking care of my 9 mos GrandSon at the same time you slipped so more posts in proving my previous post Teac tried to end the discussion and even put Maybe Should have been Open for Discussion in the 1st place and you started off you responce woth DUH In Caps implying the person was not intelligent enough to understand, and when Teac Was More than Intelligent enough but also Mature enough not to respond you carried on whith 71M10. When Will You Realize This is not All About YOU! and do the right thing and end it!

Enough is Enough!! Rich!

[Teac]

Carlie, As a Moderator/Admin & Elder of hadit you should have presented this benefit info as you would have any other without the bold large letters,then showing your personal side and taking offence in posting of others opinions and kept going tit for tat then finally pulling the political issue of the forum laws makes it seem it's ok for some but not all way of thinking. I've seen a few slips from you sinse I have been reading and posting this forum (EG this and the book issue), but have always thought of you as a well imformed professional. Don't make the same misstakes as other forums' leaders who made their forums a personal agenda losing members and dieing. Until this post I had no idea you were a member of the gay community nor was it any of my business or even mattered. However you seem to have a strong opinion of it and don't seem to respect other members rights to their opinions, Right Or Wrong every one has an opinion and should have a right to theirs, You better that most should recognize that American Right, and as a hadit leader should not let someones opinion get to a heated discussion exspecily with you keeping it going. Don't blame Teac, or 71M10 for their part the blame lays with you (JMHO), You should Apologize to them and bury it now and let opinions be opinions!

Sorry Just as I See It, Rich!

I just wanted to add to your comments, from what I have seen, gay rights issues are never initiated by anyone other than Carrie, as such it seems most veterans find this a subject that is best ignored... Frankly, our opinions will not sway the gay community....... I have been aware for some time that Carrie is a member of the G/L community....she has made it well known on this and other veteran boards. I do think however that she is posting theses articles because she is gay and for no other reason. While I do respect Carrie for her knowledge and passion concerning veterans benefits, I think this is one area where her bias is so apparent that she loses all creditability on the subject.

[Philip Rogers]

Teac - FYI her name is "Carlie," not "Carrie."

pr

[71M10]

Not that I really want to keep this going, but I am compelled to speak due to concious. Some of you may or may not know that the graphic i include as a picture associated with my handle 71M10 goes back to my days in the Army as a Chaplain's Assistant. In doing my duties I worked with all denominations and as an individual I did my best to truly support each and every one, even if their beliefs were different than mine. It altered my world view!

I can accept people that are different and just because a person holds values or opinions that I do not agree with does not make thier beliefs or ideas untenable to me, I view it as a choice or viewpoint that I would not take or have. Overall, I have meet very few individuals in my life that I question the value of their existance to society.

When we start dishing out summary judments on groups of people we should start with our own cohorts. How many right to lifer's are also Pro death penalty??? How many Pro Choicers would support the legalization of prostitution???? Why do we send people to jail for consensual sex with 14 year old, because they are not capable of making an informed adult decision, but when it is a 14 year old commiting a crime we are ready to impart the ability to concieve that crime as an adult and then send them to trial as an adult? As a society we are full of contradictions.

I do see recognition of same sex relationships as a civil rights issue. we continue to discuss the issue in terms of amourus or sexual unions. I would assert that the law should be redefined to encompass relationships between individuals who have legally co-commited to the support, care, and well being of another. I could be completely fine with being married to my wife in the church and establishing the paperwork with the government to recognize our commitment to support, care and provide for each others well being. It does not have to be an all or nothing proposition folks!

As for politics, any time we talk about a change in a LAW or administrative ruling it is political. Unfortunately, we are at a point here in America where we deserve the system we have. We continue to elect people who govern not for whats in the best interest of this country/state/county/town, but what is best for their political assencion and survival. We allow political parties who hire significant numbers of marketers and organizational psycologists/sociologists to ensure we renew or expand thier power by dividing us up in groups and prodding us to attack each other.

I understand that justice delayed is justice denied, but we have a lot more serious issues that should be attended to at the national level before marriage, abortion, gun control or *pick your wedge issue*.

Best regards,

Edited February 19, 2013 by 71M10

[Teac]

Teac - FYI her name is "Carlie," not "Carrie."

pr

thanks I knew that ....I would claim it was a spelling error except I made the mistake many times, Sorry Carlie

Edited February 19, 2013 by Teac

[#1Cavtrooper]

Carlie, I appreciate you posting this! There was a time when I was in the military long ago and I came down on levy to go to back overseas. I had not been back the minimum 18 months stateside so I was able to remain where I was stationed with my girlfriend (of 10 years at the time). Btw, she was civilian and if the Army had this law in effect then maybe she could have gone with me. All I can say is it is about da%#@ed time.....

Edited February 19, 2013 by #1Cavtrooper