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Welcome back! Have anything good to say about the experience? Did you get any help? ~Wings

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Welcome back Jim-I feel the VA can provide excellent help with problems like yours and when you look back on all of this it will have some positives instead of negatives.

John asked an interesting question- here they used to have a stress ward which was separated from patients going through detox.

And the PTSD inhouse program in Buffalo was always just small groups of combat vets.

The VA was able to isolate stress and anxiety patients to one specific area.I think it helps to be able to keep ones focus when dealing with stress without additional distractions.

The follow program you are getting sounds very good and I hope it is- let us know.

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I bet your vacation at the expense of the VA will help with your claims. They give you a GAF when you are admitted and also when you leave.

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Answers: There were some guys detoxing one or two out of 12 patients.

The experience wasnt as bad as I expected it to be. The positive is I am finally getting some help.

All patients were in the same ward, no one was seperated from no one, I wish the guys who were shitting their diapers were seperated. The food was terrible, luckily my lovely wife brought me dinner everynight. I was allowed Hospital Privledges with escort after 3 days (means you can go down and outside to smoke and wear civilian clothes vs VA jammies) then on the 5th day they removed the escort requirment. Smoking is only allowed during designated times staggered through out the day and usually limited to 30 minutes. When the wife came to visit I could leave the ward no matter if it was during a designated time or not.

After I came home my wife apologized to me, she said I am sorry I had no idea you were so sick, when the doctor interviewed me before admitting me she heard it all and burst into to tears. It wasnt supposed to happen that way, I drove myself to the ER while she was at work and called her when I got there, by the time the doc interviewed me she was there. I HAVE A WONDERFULL WIFE I told her no need to apologize if it wasnt for her I woulod have killed myself long ago, and apologized to her and thanked her.

I imagine my gaf score upon admission was low as I was classified as suicidal. As a matter of fact they would not discharge me unless all my guns were taken ouut of the house, to include my bow and arrows and my CPO Cutlass. This presented a significant problem as all my guns were locked in safes with only me having access. I proposed that my father pick me up at the hospital, the doctor was to tell him to remove my guns and take them back to his house. They agreed. My father picked me up and talked to the doc, drove me home. We removed the bolts from all of my rifles including the three AK47's, he took all the bolts to his house in northern michigan. I had one shotgun that he had to take and one pistol....................

I statred HIOT today, its 6 weeks long runs from 9AM to 215PM everyday. Hiot stands for Hospital Based High Intensity Outpatient Therapy. They give me a voucher worth $4.50 for lunch in the cafiteria and milage everyday. So it aint to bad.

I am intrested to see what my appeal comes back with as far as % for depression, but I am sure if it isnt high enough my 10 day stent should get it raised to 70%. I am now taking 40 mg celexa, .5 mg clonazepam, 75mcg duragesic, 10 mg of percocet as needed, plus other meds.

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Jim-glad you updated us here- I know this was hard on the wife but harder on you and I think the VA will certainly help you with these problems.

I know what it is like to have the guns removed.But this is for the best and you know where they are being kept for you anyhow.Man-you sure had some armament there!

Your wife sounds like a great support system and she certainly was concerned.Sometimes our spouses are our greatest friends in the world but they often need to know what is really going on inside us.You sound like a man who did keep a lot in.

The VA will help you Jim. I gripe about them but they do save lives and they do help thousands of veterans.

We are here for the wife too and she sounds like a true soul mate and that is a true blessing to have.

Very Glad you are back. Berta

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Jim;

Glad your out. Enjoy life it's too short.

I understand about the detox guys. I spend 2 week at Fitzmissions after surgery with Spinal Headack and they put one in the ward I was in one night. He screamed all night long. If I could have walked to his bed (I would pass out in 15 ft)...... Anyway I am sure my hands would have fit parts of him.

The excuse to put this guy in ward was only bed available. Joy.

Well get well

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Jim

Going to the ER and getting admitted was a smart move. I did it when the post office walked me out to the parking lot and just left me sitting there and told me not to come back. I went staight to the VAMC and got admitted. It helped my effective date for IU. I should have stayed longer but I went on a weekend. Bad idea. I could not get my pain meds. Now they are all supplied by the VA so I could get them.

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Jim I went on a weekend. Bad idea. I could not get my pain meds. Now they are all supplied by the VA so I could get them.

I went in on a weekend listed my meds and they provided them and more...........

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start HIOT (High Intensity Outpatient therapy) Tomorrow.............glad to be out of the looney bin :(

1997 been there done that stayed 10 days, lexington ky, didnt help any, i was hearing voices with

nam thoughts real heavy at the time, they ended up discharging me with ptsd, however the two

other psycs said bipolar, all fizzled out, but any way they the docs said because my mother

didnt tell me she loved me was my problem, i said my mother didnt put a gun in my hand and

send to the nam, never help with the flashbacks//bigjim

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Bigjim

The VA will use every sorry excuse to deny compensation. My mommy didn't love me so I got sent to RVN and had to fight for my life and it was all Mommy's fault. Don't give up on your claims. With idiots like that making running the show you will win eventually.

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The VA will use every sorry excuse to deny compensation. My mommy didn't love me so I got sent to RVN and had to fight for my life and it was all Mommy's fault. Don't give up on your claims. With idiots like that making running the show you will win eventually.

i had to laugh, i know it aint funny some of thoes va dr are clowns.

dont worry i aint giving up. dont get me wrong here, i draw military retirement (cpo)

100% ssd, so i aint the money, they owe me, the military take care of it own, so i

was told in 1965, thanks john...cul

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FL,

Can you go to release of information at the treating hospital,sign the ROI form

and get some copies to send in for the appeal you have going? Since they are psyc.

records your provider will probably need to make a note in the computer (to ROI)

that it is OK to release these records to you. I would do this ASAP if I were able

because of the appeal on hand. That is of course, if any of the appeal issues have

something to do with your current treatment.

Good luck buddy,

carlie

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FL,

Can you go to release of information at the treating hospital,sign the ROI form

and get some copies to send in for the appeal you have going? Since they are psyc.

records your provider will probably need to make a note in the computer (to ROI)

that it is OK to release these records to you. I would do this ASAP if I were able

because of the appeal on hand. That is of course, if any of the appeal issues have

something to do with your current treatment.

Good luck buddy,

carlie

Requested the records today...........my current appeal in process (DRO REVIEW) should be decided soon as the new c&p (which was ordered at a DRO Hearing) was done a month ago as well as 59 new pages of med evidence (new) sent in a month ago along with a vcaa form saying I have no more evidence. My thoughts are to send anything else in at this time would slow it down (been there done it before). SO I am keeping that info plus the other two hospitalizations for panic attacks (one of which caused a second heart catherization during that hospitilazation) as aces in the hole incase I dont like the DRO decision which I most likley wont be entirely happy with but I am hoping for some major increases from it. But like I said earlier I dont want anything slowing up my DRO Review at this time

Hospitalized 21 and 22 Sep panic attack

Sep 28th Emergency visit VAMC Mental Health, Doc wanted to admit me at that time but no beds available

Hospitalized 4,5,6 Oct panic attack, heart catherization

Hospitalized 7-15 Oct Pysch ward suicidal

Oct 16th Started 6 weeks of Hospital based High Intensity Outpationt therapy (laying ground work for my PTSD claim which has not even been acted on yet, only the statements in support of a PTSD they asked for, no C&P as of yet

All of above are my aces in the hole for the VA and for SSDI immediate reconsideration should I be turned down. Spoke to the SSA Examiner today, she told me I will have a decision by end of this month. If I havee to file for reconsideration I am having attorney do it.

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I spent 11 days, last month. in a lock down ward. I wanted to kill my plumber, as I reached for a knife, I had a moment of clarity. The 400.00 over charge just wasn't worth it. Even though that was a lot a cash at that time and place. The five grandkids needed to eat, ( they didn't miss any meals after all ).

The long and short of it all, it had been about 4 years, since I had been in a lock down. Not since I was granted the 100 % PTSD. It did me a world of good. It helped with some anger issues, it reminded me how lucky I have it. Married 39 years, pretty nice family ( most of the time), nice home. Not living on the streets like most of my fellow vets that where in there with me. Clean and sober, since Jan 89. For the most part the staff was OK, 1 or 2 that really needed to retire. ( they have enough time), most know us know the ROAD. Retired on active duty. Just hanging on for the bigger paycheck and just do enough to stay out of harms way, but you can tell they hate VETS. I was union officer years ago at Brooke Army Medical Center, it was hard then to get them out. We just promoted them back then.

Sorry for going off topic.

Larry Jones 100% PTSD SC. still a little nuts, I hope.

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