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Check my medical records under myhealythvet and under VA notes ,My psychologist who is see regularly had noted in my records GAF done,but no score in my records showed. This i notice over a year same thing in records. I ask him yesterday on my last visit and he said it was recorded but for privacy it does not show in my records.Does this sound right,because when i got my private records it shows GAF that was recorded doing those visits.

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Your Global Assessment of Functioning Score (GAF) is not as important as it used to be.  Years ago, a GAF of xx would warrant a y percent rating.  VA got a lot of heat there ("gee how come I got a 45 GAF and only 30 percent, while this (BVA case Vet) was a 45 and awarded 70 percent?")

You see, the VA loves to keep their "discretion" in awarding what ever they so choose, and not have it come back on appeal.  So, they make things vague, on purpose.  

I would love it if they had a numbering system GAF where you could be assured if you got a certain GAF rating, VA would have to award a certain percent.  

There are BVA cases where GAF is still mentioned.  However, GAF score does not appear in the criteria for rating, and, remember, VA must rate on criteria.  They can not rate you on the color of your hair, or whether or not you have nose rings.  They must rate on the criteria, and this includes GAF score.  (GAF score, since its not mentioned in the schedule of rating disabilities, is "non criteria", and can not be used to give you a lower rating)

Its this way with hearing loss, and VA hates that.  You give the VEteran a hearing test, and, if he meets the Caluza big 3 for service connection, then you plug the hearing loss numbers into a computer and poof, you got a percentage (often zero percent).  

Because of this, docs dont often give a GAF score any more.  Some still do, others do not.  

I suggest you order a copy of your cfile, and see if another doc gave you a GAF score, if you want to know what your GAF score is.  

GAF scores are subjective.  This means one doc may say..GAF 30, while another may say GAF 80 or anywhere in between.  Also, your GAF score can/does change over time, and, as stated. varies with doctor to doctor.  

I would not worry too much about your gaf score.  ONe Vet printed out the rating criteria for 30/50/70 and 100 percent.  Then, he took all his medical exams and highlighted 30 percent with green, 50 with blue, 70 with red, and 100 with yellow.  

He then sent that color coded symptoms to VA.  He got the rating he wanted, and thought he deserved based on symptoms.  

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I appreciate response, but my question is are not my GAF to show up in medical records if he noted in records that GAF done. Again he noted he did one but private not in records, unlike my private records which noted.Legally should not be in records if stated. Thanks

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My VA doc puts my GAF in his notes, we never discuss it, but it shows up in my blue button records download.

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Some VA and probably Private MH Clinicians as well, still use the GAF for comparison purposes only, for their own reference.

As Bronc stated, back say pre-12 or so, a Low GAF around 50 + or -, could help you get a PTSD rating, if all your other ducks were in a row. X number of MH Clincians interviewing the same Vet on or about the same day, could assign a wide range of GAF estimates.

I had a PTSD C & P VMC Psychiatrist assign a GAF of 49, My VA PTSD Group Social Worker had just the week before, put a 59 in my VMC records. A 10 point spread in one week, I guess, if they say so.

The New DSM - V removes the GAF as a reliable DXing tool. It's used now for individual Clinician's reference purposes only.

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I look under blue button and download records and as i said above ,its noted in my records GAF DONE-but not listed ,if does not my clinician have an obligation to listed in my records and if not then do not list in records done.My problem is that if i submitt records for claim and then the VA have records but they use GAF scores that i can not see,on my next visit should i ask my clinician to see my GAF scores.

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