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CBO Options for Reducing the Deficit: 2019 to 2028 Published Dec 2018

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CBO Options for Reducing the Deficit: 2019 to 2028 - This CBO Report has been making the news. This post includes parts relevant to veterans. Nothing has been decided as of yet and some seem very unlikely but you never know. Forewarned is Forearmed.

 

https://www.hadit.com/cbo-options-for-reducing-the-deficit-2019-to-2028-published-dec-2018/

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"To care for him who has borne the battle..." I agree with Tbird about forewarned is forearmed so I signed up for daily e-mails from the CBO.  

marina53
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WHY does IU always come up on the chopping block?  Don't these people realize that if a veteran has IU, his social security payments are almost nonexistent due to the very fact of the unemployability?

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Wow... I just read the entire article they are actually proposing many different ways to eliminate compensation.  The TDIU elimination would  not affect me personally,  but I still have concern o

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I hope this is not political but I think the CBO should be more concerned about payments and medical care to those who have never worked a day in their life.  Veterans earn their disability in peace time and war by putting their bodies on the line.  I suffered a career ending injury through no fault of my own and am paying the price today forty some years later.

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I agree with you Vetquest  most of us are in your shoes,

for me it was 46 years later.2002 I Worked up until my body would not let me...and then some

I  am hoping the Big 4 Will get this off the agenda and they cancel these proposals to All IU Veterans..it's just not fair at all...especially for the ones that already been awarded IU.

As I understand  veterans who are age 67 at the time of the proposed effective date 2020..will not be effected  but if a Veteran is turning 67  he/she could be on the chopping block/if this is passed that veteran will go back to his original disability's before the IU was Awarded.

I turn 67 this year July 2019...not sure if I am safe or not?

   but this is only a proposal.....so for   eh!

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We need some one to give us IU Vets some insight on this or help break down this age limit of 67?  who will be effected and who will not?

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Remember, Buck, this is an "option", not law.  There is no guarantee any of it will be passed into law.  However, I did read what you read, and you would be "grandfathered" in, as you will be 67 in 2019, and it only affects TDIU Vets over 67 as of year 2020.  You dont have anything to worry about.  

Every few years, "some politician" puts forth a plan to cut Vets benefits, especially TDIU in older Vets.  EACH time it goes "nowhere" for good reason:  There are 25 million Veterans and "no" politician can stay or get in office who loses not only the Veteran's votes, but there are millions more who are "in support" of the troops.   It would be political suicide for a politician to introduce legislation that would hurt Veterans.  The DAV, VFW, and a bunch more Vets groups would be on that like white on rice.  Its an "option" and not any proposed legislation, so they dont get all riled up about it, and we shouldnt either.  Vets get significantly more funding each year, no matter which party is in power.  NONE of them want to alienate Veterans.   Every politician for the past 30 years or so has claimed to be "for the Veteran", as he knew he would never get elected without the Vets and Veteran friendly vote.  

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@broncovet is right these are proposals and that is a long way from law. So it's a good heads up about what is be discussed, but is not written in stone and shouldn't cause you undue worry until something is actually moving through congress.

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WHY does IU always come up on the chopping block?  Don't these people realize that if a veteran has IU, his social security payments are almost nonexistent due to the very fact of the unemployability?  This proposal would affect Vietnam vets more than any others. Let's work together to make sure that these proposals never see the light of day!

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On 1/19/2019 at 1:26 PM, marina53 said:

WHY does IU always come up on the chopping block?  Don't these people realize that if a veteran has IU, his social security payments are almost nonexistent due to the very fact of the unemployability?  This proposal would affect Vietnam vets more than any others. Let's work together to make sure that these proposals never see the light of day!

Actually the statement is not entirely correct   " Don't these people realize that if a veteran has IU, his social security payments are almost nonexistent due to the very fact of the unemployability"

Social Security is based  on your lifetime earnings,  if you retired young you social security payments would likely be low, if you retire at an older age , security payment could be  High... The average Social security payment is $1422. in 2019.... my monthly check is considerably higher and I was forced into a second retirement at age 45. 

I don't think  that the proposal would effect more Vietnam Veterans, since most if not all would likely be grandfathered in.

I believe that they could change the rules at anytime for any reason but considering the backlash that politicians would receive , if enacted, it is my opinion it would only affect new awards and then only if the veteran was actually retired long before the request for TDIU...

Example: say a veteran takes a normal retirement at age 67 ( any age really) and then a few  years later request TDIU... it could be denied, because if the veteran is already retired before  he request TDIU,  he is not losing any income,  because compensation is paid to offset lost income, not supplement retirement  it could easily be justified to deny TDIU in cases like this, and then the age question does not even come into play. 

Just like there are special rules for  VA service connected pensions, they can make  special rules for TDIU  eventually some politicians will have take the step to limit TDIU in some way,  its just a matter of time.  

 

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Wow... I just read the entire article they are actually proposing many different ways to eliminate compensation. 

The TDIU elimination would  not affect me personally,  but I still have concern over this option

They listed 7 diseases that CBO  considered not to be caused in any way by military service, good arguments could be made that some of the conditions are caused by service.

I would be directly effected if they eliminated COPD from compensation in that I would lose my 100% rating.  Ironically,  I would still have a 100% rating based on all my other medical conditions. 

I would also lose my 10% rating for Hemorrhoids which I would argue, would never have happened if I had not been eating c rats in fox holes with water up to my ass 

I do not see the CBO  revoking compensation based on disease alone, it would not be  an easy thing to do.. more elected members would be inclined to limit medical care to certain veterans, or reduce

compensation for those with a 30% or less rating or some other less drastic measure than to take away a 100% rating especially for someone like myself who has been rated 100%  for 12 years, and prior to that TDIU for 8 years for TDIU.... 

Every veteran Could be impacted by at least one of the 6 options outlined...... scary stuff  hope it doesn't happen to anyone.....

  

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