How To Aquire Veteran's Disability Benefits Without Joining The Military

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War Veteran must share disablility with ex-wife

Money For Nothing, Checks For Free

by Anne Stanton

A Manistee County judge ruled recently that a portion of a Vietnam veteran's disability benefits can be considered when determining the amount of alimony paid to an ex-spouse.

Veteran Calvin Murphy had argued in court that his disability benefits should be off limits to his ex-wife, but 19th Circuit Judge James Batzer disagreed.

Murphy, 61, testified in the trial that he served a harrowing 5 1/2 months in Vietnam and mistakenly believed for decades that he had killed a fellow soldier during a North Vietnamese attack. He was wracked by guilt that his entire squadron had been ambushed, shot in the head, and found with cards in their mouths that said "Yankee go home.�� He was not with his squadron at the time of the ambush.

Murphy said he was torn up emotionally from the experience—during his 24-year marriage to Karen Murphy, he sometimes slept with a gun, was tormented by nightmares, and used drugs and alcohol. In the early 1990s, he stopped drinking and sought treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder...

Calvin's attorney, Wendy Divozzo of Cadillac, argued that federal law says that a veteran's benefits belong solely to the person disabled, and should never be diverted to a third party under any circumstances.

Karen Murphy's attorney, Connie Krusniak of Ludington, said that other state and federal laws across the country say that disability pay is for the benefit of the veteran and the family, and that those laws are backed by rulings in previous cases. Judge Batzer agreed with her interpretation.

Krusniak argued that an ex-spouse of a military veteran deserves something after supporting her spouse through years of emotional upheaval arising from the disability of post traumatic stress disorder, which is expressed in nightmares, depression, drug and alcohol abuse. A spouse also deserves something for supporting the partner through doctor appointments, rehab and physical handicaps.

Judge Batzer based his judgment, in part, on family law and the income of Calvin and Karen, and the amount of money each needed to survive.

Calvin Murphy, who is unemployed, collects a total of $3886 each month, including $2,400 for military disability, $1,186 in Social Security disability, and $300 in disability income through the National Park Service where he used to work, according to court records. That amount will go down significantly after the divorce.

Karen Murphy, who is also unemployed, collects about $700 per month in disability.

Judge Batzer awarded Karen $800 a month indefinitely until her death or until she remarries. That judgment leaves Calvin $3,195 a month on which to live.

Judge Batzer was clear in his ruling that military disability benefits should be used as a basis for alimony, or what's now called spousal support.

Part of the problem, attorney Divozzo said, is that state and federal law are contradictory and unclear, and that rulings have varied around the country.

"I am telling Calvin and the other vets that if they want to help the young veterans coming back from Iraq or Afgahnistan, to tell them

not to get married unless they have a prenuptial that specifically excludes future VA benefits or service connected benefits.

That's their best shot at having some certainty absent a change in law or a clear ruling that a spouse may not claim those,�� Divozzo said.

Krusniak declined comment on the ruling.

Calvin, who has already spent jail time for refusing to pay spousal benefits awarded in the first go-round of the case two years ago, said he will appeal the decision. He has has vowed to give up all his disability benefits if he loses on appeal and "take the homeless life.��

If he is ordered to jail, he said that he'll request service in the Middle East.

"This whole matter has destroyed my life. I have my home up for sale, and the stress is starting to take its toll on me, but I will keep fighting. I want to go as far as I can and try my best to turn this law around where it is the same everywhere for all vets around the country,�� he said.

"When a soldier hangs up his or her uniform, things change. You are treated like an old pair of shoes.��

[Ricky]

Actually he is luck if only a "portion" was considered. Most if not all state judges are allowed to consider VA disability as income. It is not as though they are saying a part of the disability belongs to the spouse - they consider it income in the over income picture during a divorce.

[JR Reihs]

Ricky

"Most if not all state judges are allowed to consider VA disability"

I would like to know to what law you are refering to allow this unless congress has changed something I am not aware of.

[LarryJ]

Congress's intent was that the VETERAN receive "benefits" that were due HIM/HER!

That is why VA benefit payments are not EVEN "attachable". The First Filthydelphia Savings and Loan can't touch your VA benefits, your benefits aren't EVEN taxable by the USofA. The ONLY way, the ONLY way that Congress agreed for a Veteran's benefits to be diverted FROM the Veteran to ANYONE else......is if the Veteran owes the IRS. That's it. Period.

And, the last I heard, the Federal outweighs the State(s).

There are, of course, judges (ranking anywhere from the Small Claims Court in Truth or Consquences, NM, to the Supreme Court of the USofA that would LIKE to have the ability to MAKE the Law of this land...........but, they don't.). That, fortunately (or unfortunately in some cases) is the power that the USofA Constitution has invested the LEGISLATIVE branch of government.

Appeal, Appeal, Appeal.........

of course, in this particular instance....it could well be argued that she HAS had the benefit of his VA compensation payments...all the time that she lived with him while he was drawing his comp..........and now, she ain't so now she cain't. voila!

[carlie]

In a Divorce Case:

If you are requested to report all Income, VA Disability should be reported, if

not this can cause problems down the road.

The Divorce Judge can grant and allow for part of the Disability Comp to go to

your ex spouse.

VA will not cut the check to go to the ex spouse - this is up to the veteran

to write the check.

If the judge rules for money to go to minor dependent children, then the rules change.

jmho - from additional sources - I have not gone thru this.

carlie

[LarryJ]

Well, like I wuz sayin.......the Judge can DO whatever he wants to do.

That doesn't make it LEGAL.

Judges oft times overstep their bounds. OFT TIMES.

And, then get a BIG KICK out of it.......on Thursdays....on the 12th green with all their other lawyer/judge-type buddies.

Trust me on this.

Grandson of an Oklahoma State Supreme Court Justice.

Grandson of an Arkansas Court of Criminal Appeals Judge.

Brother of an Associate U.S. Federal District Judge.

And trust me, I've heard ALL their sh*t.

And, every damn one of them, from the time they were 25, never drew a sober breath until they died.

And, I, I spent more time IN the bar, than I did studying FOR it.

But, I made a mistake............I sobered up.

Decided engineering was a much more honest way to make a living.

I was right!

Judges are just cops, without guns. 'course somebody once said I had this "problem" with authority.............but, I ramble, time for more Tylenol #3.