Bipoar Due To A General Medical Condition?

[c&p man]

theriapist was telling me that he thinks that i suffer from bipolar disorder from my medical condition from service ? is this ratable has anyone heard of this... i know depression due to a general medical condition,but bipolar?

[c&p man]

Ditto on Larry's most recent post.

carlie

i try that larry ..what it going to hurt ?he only know of my accident and how it affects me giving me ptsd,anxiety,depression...i thought since i have about 1 and a half of that it would be hard to ge the theriapist on my side that i suffer most of my depression from my sc condtions than my acciendt ....i tried for depression before but i just put down depression and the va said yes you have a diagnose of depression but this is from your accident and their are no stressor in service or aggravating htings...then i came on hadit.com...and i from this i just flat out tell him yes i have depression from acceindent but i have more depression from my sc condtion bc they affect me mentally,physically,socially,economically... as far as straight out asking him what i should i claim that would floor him maybe...lol

[sharon]

§3.310 Disabilities that are proximately due to, or aggravated by, service-connected disease

or injury.

(a) General. Except as provided in §3.300©, disability which is proximately due to or the result of a service-connected disease or injury shall be service connected. When service connection is thus established for a secondary condition, the secondary condition shall be considered a part of the original condition.

(:) Aggravation of nonservice-connected disabilities. Any increase in severity of a nonservice-connected disease or injury that is proximately due to or the result of a service-connected disease or injury, and not due to the natural progress of the nonservice-connected disease, will be service connected. However, VA will not concede that a nonservice-connected disease or injury was aggravated by a service-connected disease or injury unless the baseline level of severity of the nonservice-connected disease or injury is established by medical evidence created before the onset of aggravation or by the earliest medical evidence created at any time between the onset of aggravation and the receipt of medical evidence establishing the current level of severity of the nonservice-connected disease or injury. The rating activity will determine the baseline and current levels of severity under the Schedule for Rating Disabilities (38 CFR part 4) and determine the extent of aggravation by deducting the baseline level of severity, as well as any increase in severity due to the natural progress of the disease, from the current level. (Authority: 38 U.S.C. 1110 and 1131)

[WHOLESALE]

There are some medical conditions that are co-morbid with bipolar disorder such as HIV or any other illness that affects the brain. The onset of bipolar can occur with stress and if your medical condition in service was causing extreme stress this may have triggered your bipolar condition. Stress has been medically determined to trigger onset and progression of bipolar disorder. In saying that, if you have a genetic disposition to Bipolar your chances are real slim for service connection. We really need more information to help you out but we'll do the best we can. The other post below are generally correct that a physical condition like does not cause bipolar disorder but can lead to depression.

Jay

theriapist was telling me that he thinks that i suffer from bipolar disorder from my medical condition from service ? is this ratable has anyone heard of this... i know depression due to a general medical condition,but bipolar?

[c&p man]

There are some medical conditions that are co-morbid with bipolar disorder such as HIV or any other illness that affects the brain. The onset of bipolar can occur with stress and if your medical condition in service was causing extreme stress this may have triggered your bipolar condition. Stress has been medically determined to trigger onset and progression of bipolar disorder. In saying that, if you have a genetic disposition to Bipolar your chances are real slim for service connection. We really need more information to help you out but we'll do the best we can. The other post below are generally correct that a physical condition like does not cause bipolar disorder but can lead to depression.

Jay

once agian thank for your time and post and thoughts.....i understand clearly now....i just know depression is a long shot since i diagnosed bc of a out of servcie accident...and the va rater will feed of that...i just trying to get bipolar instead of depression since he rater will use it against me ...yes i have bipolar disorder..hate it...i just stressed and pissed that bc i went for help at the va during my acciendent now it wieghy against my claim for depression due to my sc ankle,back,migrains,heel,sciaticia.... but like larryj said i guess i have to just come out and tell my va theriapist what affecting me and how if he can help me,,,,

[john999]

When docs who are tying to be helpful tell you that you have some disorder you must remember that unless it shows up in your SMR's the VA is probably going to deny it. If you SMR's show a diagnosis of depression or bi-polar then I don't think it is a far jump to show that chronic pain or some medical condition aggravates it. However, if you are starting from no record of diagnosis or treatment for a mental disorder in service then it gets harder. Depression due to a medical disorder and PTSD are about the only mental conditions I know that don't require some in-service documentation of diagnosis or treatment. With PTSD you have the verifiable stressor which for many is a mountain to climb. If you are depressed because you are in chronic pain and unable to get around due to a SC condition then that is doable, but you still need careful medical nexus statement. Anything that muddies the water about what is causing the depression creates a big problem. Three words that gives the VA something to hang their hat on to deny the depression claim as SC'ed is all they need. These guys are not looking for reasons to grant compensation . It is the reverse in my experience.

[c&p man]

When docs who are tying to be helpful tell you that you have some disorder you must remember that unless it shows up in your SMR's the VA is probably going to deny it. If you SMR's show a diagnosis of depression or bi-polar then I don't think it is a far jump to show that chronic pain or some medical condition aggravates it. However, if you are starting from no record of diagnosis or treatment for a mental disorder in service then it gets harder. Depression due to a medical disorder and PTSD are about the only mental conditions I know that don't require some in-service documentation of diagnosis or treatment. With PTSD you have the verifiable stressor which for many is a mountain to climb. If you are depressed because you are in chronic pain and unable to get around due to a SC condition then that is doable, but you still need careful medical nexus statement. Anything that muddies the water about what is causing the depression creates a big problem. Three words that gives the VA something to hang their hat on to deny the depression claim as SC'ed is all they need. These guys are not looking for reasons to grant compensation . It is the reverse in my experience.

yes that why i think bc i see a va dr for my acciendent he diagnosed me with depression anxiety and ptsd.... yes i was thinking i need so much eveidnce to out wiegh the depression from acciendet i know i need to seperate the two and put my focus and the theriapist focus on deprsion from chroin pain or due to general medical conditions.... it funny how fast they diagnosed me wiht ptsd anxiety depression so easy when it not sc ......any advice on how to handle this?