Jump to content

Ask Your VA Claims Questions | Read Current Posts 
Read VA Disability Claims Articles
Search | View All Forums | Donate | Blogs | New Users | Rules 

  • tbirds-va-claims-struggle (1).png

  • 01-2024-stay-online-donate-banner.png

     

  • 0

List Of Evidence

Rate this question


Jayg

Question

Ok, one more thing...

It has been suggested I check the "list of evidence." How do I do that? Do I request a copy from the VARO? Show up and ask to see it, make an appointment to see it???

Thanks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Answers 82
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters For This Question

Top Posters For This Question

Posted Images

Recommended Posts

  • Content Curator/HadIt.com Elder

Awesome work Kelly. Once (if) they send me my C-file, I am going to try to verify if this is a factor for my claim.

"If it's stupid but works, then it isn't stupid."
- From Murphy's Laws of Combat

Disclaimer: I am not a legal expert, so use at own risk and/or consult a qualified professional representative. Please refer to existing VA laws, regulations, and policies for the most up to date information.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Content Curator/HadIt.com Elder

Good question there John999...

"If it's stupid but works, then it isn't stupid."
- From Murphy's Laws of Combat

Disclaimer: I am not a legal expert, so use at own risk and/or consult a qualified professional representative. Please refer to existing VA laws, regulations, and policies for the most up to date information.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, I am curious as well. Bell v derwinski applies to my late hubby's 90's application for sc for ptsd, as they failed to consider his counseling records....

he also applied in the 80's, and also got a rubber stamp denial with more counseling records in their hands. No C&P's either time back then...

"Do one thing every day that scares you." Eleanor Roosevelt

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here you go:

DECISION ASSESSMENT DOCUMENT

O. G. C. << Precedent>> 12-95 (5/10/95)

HELD: (1) With respect to final agency of original jurisdiction (AOJ) decisions rendered on or after July 21, 1992, an AOJ's failure to consider records which were in VA's possession at the time of the decision, although not actually in the record before the AOJ, may constitute clear and unmistakable error, if such failure affected the outcome of the claim.

(2) With respect to final AOJ decisions rendered prior to July 21, 1992, an AOJ's failure to consider evidence which was in VA's possession at the time of the decision, although not actually in the record before the AOJ, may not provide a basis for a finding of clear and unmistakable error. The effective date of a reopened claim in this type of case will generally be the date the reopened claim was filed, as provided by 38 U.S.C. § 5110(a).

ANALYSIS: The General Counsel began the analysis in this opinion by noting that a clear and unmistakable error must be based on the record and the law that existed at the time of the prior agency of original jurisdiction (AOJ) decision and must affect the outcome of the claim. Specifically, a claim that an AOJ committed clear and unmistakable error in failing to consider pertinent evidence must be based upon evidence which was in the record before the AOJ at the time of the prior decision. Russell v. Principi, 3 Vet. App. 310, 314 (1992); Caffrey v. Brown, 6 Vet. App. 383 (1994).

In Bell v Derwinski, 2 Vet. App. 611 (1992), which was decided on July 21, 1992, the Court of Veterans Appeals created the constructive notice rule. That is, that medical records which are in VA's possession at the time VA adjudicators render a decision on a claim will be considered in the record at the time of the decision, regardless of whether the medical records were actually before the adjudicator at the time of the decision. Accordingly, as to final decisions made on or after July 21, 1992, evidence which was in VA's possession at the time the AOJ decision was made will be deemed to have been in the record before the AOJ at the time of that decision. The General Counsel found that if the outcome of the case is altered by the records, a later claim may result in a finding of clear and unmistakable error.

However, the General Counsel pointed out that the rule announced in Bell may not be applied retroactively to establish clear and unmistakable error in decisions which were final prior to the Bell decision. In reaching this conclusion, the General Counsel cited Damrel v. Brown, 6 Vet. App. 242 (1992), which dealt with an allegation of clear and unmistakable error in a case dealing with constructive notice of insurance records. In Damrel, the Court found that the constructive notice rule first announced in Bell was not applicable to decisions which became final prior to July 21, 1992, the date of issuance of the Bell opinion.

As for the effective date of a reopened claim in which the original claim was finally denied prior to July 21, 1992, the General Counsel found that the effective date should be the date of the reopened claim. [Note that the General Counsel cautioned that "such records may themselves constitute informal claims, which can have implications for the effective date of resulting awards. 38 C.F.R. § 3.157."] The opinion referred to VAOPGCPREC 10-94 which concluded that a judicial << precedent>> opinion does not constitute a liberalizing "law or administrative issuance" within the meaning of 38 U.S.C. § 5110(g) and 38 C.F.R. § 3.114.

NOTE: Regarding effective dates, see VA General Counsel << Precedent>> Opinions 9-94 and 10-94 for information relating to the effect of new judicial << precedents>> on "pending" and "final" claims.

RECOMMENDATION: M21-1, Part VI, par. 2.16, relating to clear and unmistakable error, should be amended to reflect that a decision maker may find clear and unmistakable error in decisions which became final after July 21, 1992, based upon constructive notice of medical records. [This is the date of Bell v. Derwinski, 2 Vet. App. 611 (1992), which instituted the constructive notice rule.] If the decision was final before July 21, 1992, there would be no clear and unmistakable error based on the constructive notice rule.

Smilen

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Tell a friend

    Love HadIt.com’s VA Disability Community Vets helping Vets since 1997? Tell a friend!
  • Recent Achievements

    • spazbototto earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Paul Gretza earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Troy Spurlock went up a rank
      Community Regular
    • KMac1181 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • jERRYMCK earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Our picks

    • These decisions have made a big impact on how VA disability claims are handled, giving veterans more chances to get benefits and clearing up important issues.

      Service Connection

      Frost v. Shulkin (2017)
      This case established that for secondary service connection claims, the primary service-connected disability does not need to be service-connected or diagnosed at the time the secondary condition is incurred 1. This allows veterans to potentially receive secondary service connection for conditions that developed before their primary condition was officially service-connected. 

      Saunders v. Wilkie (2018)
      The Federal Circuit ruled that pain alone, without an accompanying diagnosed condition, can constitute a disability for VA compensation purposes if it results in functional impairment 1. This overturned previous precedent that required an underlying pathology for pain to be considered a disability.

      Effective Dates

      Martinez v. McDonough (2023)
      This case dealt with the denial of an earlier effective date for a total disability rating based on individual unemployability (TDIU) 2. It addressed issues around the validity of appeal withdrawals and the consideration of cognitive impairment in such decisions.

      Rating Issues

      Continue Reading on HadIt.com
      • 0 replies
    • I met with a VSO today at my VA Hospital who was very knowledgeable and very helpful.  We decided I should submit a few new claims which we did.  He told me that he didn't need copies of my military records that showed my sick call notations related to any of the claims.  He said that the VA now has entire military medical record on file and would find the record(s) in their own file.  It seemed odd to me as my service dates back to  1981 and spans 34 years through my retirement in 2015.  It sure seemed to make more sense for me to give him copies of my military medical record pages that document the injuries as I'd already had them with me.  He didn't want my copies.  Anyone have any information on this.  Much thanks in advance.  
      • 4 replies
    • Caluza Triangle defines what is necessary for service connection
      Caluza Triangle – Caluza vs Brown defined what is necessary for service connection. See COVA– CALUZA V. BROWN–TOTAL RECALL

      This has to be MEDICALLY Documented in your records:

      Current Diagnosis.   (No diagnosis, no Service Connection.)

      In-Service Event or Aggravation.
      Nexus (link- cause and effect- connection) or Doctor’s Statement close to: “The Veteran’s (current diagnosis) is at least as likely due to x Event in military service”
      • 0 replies
    • Do the sct codes help or hurt my disability rating 
    • VA has gotten away with (mis) interpreting their  ambigious, , vague regulations, then enforcing them willy nilly never in Veterans favor.  

      They justify all this to congress by calling themselves a "pro claimant Veteran friendly organization" who grants the benefit of the doubt to Veterans.  

      This is not true, 

      Proof:  

          About 80-90 percent of Veterans are initially denied by VA, pushing us into a massive backlog of appeals, or worse, sending impoverished Veterans "to the homeless streets" because  when they cant work, they can not keep their home.  I was one of those Veterans who they denied for a bogus reason:  "Its been too long since military service".  This is bogus because its not one of the criteria for service connection, but simply made up by VA.  And, I was a homeless Vet, albeit a short time,  mostly due to the kindness of strangers and friends. 

          Hadit would not be necessary if, indeed, VA gave Veterans the benefit of the doubt, and processed our claims efficiently and paid us promptly.  The VA is broken. 

          A huge percentage (nearly 100 percent) of Veterans who do get 100 percent, do so only after lengthy appeals.  I have answered questions for thousands of Veterans, and can only name ONE person who got their benefits correct on the first Regional Office decision.  All of the rest of us pretty much had lengthy frustrating appeals, mostly having to appeal multiple multiple times like I did. 

          I wish I know how VA gets away with lying to congress about how "VA is a claimant friendly system, where the Veteran is given the benefit of the doubt".   Then how come so many Veterans are homeless, and how come 22 Veterans take their life each day?  Va likes to blame the Veterans, not their system.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Guidelines and Terms of Use