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Finally Went Off The Deep End

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cavscout1967

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Last week I let my shrink have it with both barrels. I stated in no uncertain terms that I was unhappy with my rating and how the VA screwed me over on it and how the xxxx could I not have depression in my C&P but no a few months later I have been diagnosed with it by him and have anti-social personality disorder but then later he has me take the MMPI and it now its paranoid personality disorder and depression.

I told him I felt like coming down there and knocking the shit out of some of them and that I felt both suicidal and homicidal and that I wanted to seriously hurt that C&P lady who initially evaluated me and gave me the anti-social DX. I find it hard to beleive that she says that and less than 1 yr later I have the other stuff I stated by the other VA shrink.

So in a nut shell today I go down there and get my records and I see in in my shrinks notes he says a "behavioral flag may be needed and unfortunatly that may impact the teams( me and my 2 shrinks) ability to work together and therefore verify the pt's paranoid view of the VA".

So now what? What can happen? Cops in my session? Dont up my rating?

I have already done anger managment with VA and I am taking 2 types of meds. citalopram 40mg and mood stabaliser one 15mg

Thanks and if you want more info just ask

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Hmmm...if your Axis 1 is depression, that's usually the main one we look at. Without getting too personal (unless you wanna shoot me a private msg or talk about it on here) did you have some kind of stressor/trauma from service? Is there anything in your service records about complaint, treatment or diagnosis of a mental condition?

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I was given a waiver to join the military because I had been taking lithium before I joined. This is documented in my SMR's. My condition was exacerbated by my MOS as a cavalry scout is my contention. I was hurt in a training accident in which I had 5 steel pins and 2 plates inserted in my left leg and ankle back in the early 90's. This is also in my SMR's. Need more info?

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They will say you came to them as having pre-existing bipolar condition. I am pretty amazed they took you under those conditions. However, by taking you they are stating that you are OK. How long did you stay in the service? If you were in for more than a few years I don't see how they can blame it all on pre-existing condition. You could also claim that your injuries have led to depression and chronic pain syndrome. How in the world did they find out you had been taking lithium? Did you tell them this and they took you anyway? You must never mention anything that happened before military service to the VA again in your life. Your life before military should be a closed book. They will pound you for these admissions.

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They will say you came to them as having pre-existing bipolar condition. I am pretty amazed they took you under those conditions. However, by taking you they are stating that you are OK. How long did you stay in the service? If you were in for more than a few years I don't see how they can blame it all on pre-existing condition. You could also claim that your injuries have led to depression and chronic pain syndrome. How in the world did they find out you had been taking lithium? Did you tell them this and they took you anyway? You must never mention anything that happened before military service to the VA again in your life. Your life before military should be a closed book. They will pound you for these admissions.

John, in my case they tried to actually prove that I had a pre-existing condtion (a broken leg) that I never had, and that they had no proof of it having existed. Funny how you can all of a sudden get SOMEONE ELSE'S x-rays mixed up with YOURS, ain't it? And, of course, that added a couple years onto my claim.........................funny, that. Of course, they also forgot that they accepted me as physically fit, with NO NOTED illnesses or other problems. IF they accept you as being "whole and fit for duty" then it is kinda hard for them to come back and try to tell you that they really didn't MEAN that they accepted you as physically fit..........10 years or more down the road.....but, they will TRY TO, if you'll just be gullable enough to "go along" with their hypotesis'.

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"It is cold and we have no blankets.

The little children are freezing to death.

My people, some of them, have run away to the hills, and have no blankets, no food; no one knows where they are-perhaps freezing to death.

I want to have time to look for my children and see how many of them I can find.

Maybe I shall find them among the dead.

Hear me, my chiefs! I am tired; my heart is sick and sad.

From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever."

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Larry

When you claim the VA money from the VA they get creative. To this day they still get my records mixed up with other people with my same first and last name. Hey, I have a claim number and SS number.

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hmmm. they really should be revieweing your claim for aggravation. As John & Larry said, you were accepted into service, meaning they found you fit to serve. They were aware of a pre-existing condition, so whatever you had upon entry is your baseline (which sounds like a zero since u were under treatment & not exhibiting symptoms). They have to figure out your level of aggravated disability from there.

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