Finally Went Off The Deep End

[cavscout1967]

Last week I let my shrink have it with both barrels. I stated in no uncertain terms that I was unhappy with my rating and how the VA screwed me over on it and how the xxxx could I not have depression in my C&P but no a few months later I have been diagnosed with it by him and have anti-social personality disorder but then later he has me take the MMPI and it now its paranoid personality disorder and depression.

I told him I felt like coming down there and knocking the shit out of some of them and that I felt both suicidal and homicidal and that I wanted to seriously hurt that C&P lady who initially evaluated me and gave me the anti-social DX. I find it hard to beleive that she says that and less than 1 yr later I have the other stuff I stated by the other VA shrink.

So in a nut shell today I go down there and get my records and I see in in my shrinks notes he says a "behavioral flag may be needed and unfortunatly that may impact the teams( me and my 2 shrinks) ability to work together and therefore verify the pt's paranoid view of the VA".

So now what? What can happen? Cops in my session? Dont up my rating?

I have already done anger managment with VA and I am taking 2 types of meds. citalopram 40mg and mood stabaliser one 15mg

Thanks and if you want more info just ask

[cavscout1967]

I just came from the va med center, and stopped in to see the VARO rep. I was told that if I was taking Lithium before I joined the Army I would have signed a waiver so that I could not seek compensation for the use of them. IE depression. I dont remember signing any waiver to not be able to do that. Does that sound a bit fishy?

[ArmyTexas]

I just came from the va med center, and stopped in to see the VARO rep. I was told that if I was taking Lithium before I joined the Army I would have signed a waiver so that I could not seek compensation for the use of them. IE depression. I dont remember signing any waiver to not be able to do that. Does that sound a bit fishy?

I was a Army Recruiter from 2003-2007. I've never heard of any such waiver. It there was one, it would need to come from the DOD or entry service. It would also be in your record if there was such a waiver.

I had a few Med waivers that the MEPS doc or Service Doc waived, normally bad breaks in bones, elevated BP, or childhood Asthma. The MEPS Doctor would have sent you on a consult to a MH doc for and opinion. None of my enlistees ever signed anything stating that they would not seek VA compensation.

It may not have been caused by service, but it could be aggrevated by service.

[LarryJ]

As Veldrina has pointed out, if they have no noted disability on your entrance physical then they have no "baseline" from which to figure your percentage of service-connected disability, so they must start their figuring from 0% (even if your disability is deemed to have started and existed BEFORE your entrance into the service). The only viable way that I see that you can "get around" the VA "roadblock" is to prove that your existing disability was, in fact, aggravated by your time in service, albeit that you have a very good point in the fact that they have not determined HOW MUCH disability you had prior to entry. This should SHOULD be easy to prove with the proper medical opinion, whether you get this opinion from the VA or from a private practitioner. And, yes, your VA doctor is capable of rendering such an opinion, if you only ask.

[john999]

I would like to see the waiver where it says you were on lithium, but the army is going to take you knowing you were on anti-psychotic medications. I think they are damning you out of your own mouth and have no evidence other than what you have said. Lithium is given to those who are bipolar/manic depressive. I can't believe they would waive something like this. I think they are just making it up to discourage you. Why were you on lithium as a young man?

[Veldrina]

waiver? they can't hold you to that, especially if they can't produce said waiver, You have every right to file a claim for compensation. The only thing that bars you is dishonorable service. I would totally challenge that.

[cavscout1967]

I was on lithium for treatment of depression before I went in the Army. Thanks to all of you who have taken the time to respond and give me your input. I find it hard to comprehend how the VA will now say shit like I signed a waiver etc. I did have a meps doc sign a waiver certifying me as fit for service but that was it.. I think I have a pretty good case for aggravation of condition by service. At least I hope thats the case. I will be happy to answer anymore questions you may have.

Thank you all