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Hello everyone I am trying to help a friend he was a combat engineer in Nam . He file a claim in 1983 for jock-rut, a nervous condition, and a dental condition got denied.

IN 2004 at a BVA hearing the first two condition got reopen with new evidence and a remand order for THE RO or AMC to get his SMR from Grand Rapids VA Medical center,where he

was being treated for mental condition and also an Exam and to give an opion as to whether it sc or not. He is currently being treated for jungle rot at VA. He has records he was in hospital

in Da Nang. He also work in this area while there. VA has done nothing on the claim since 2004 they fail to follow the remand order. I suppose to go with him to RO tomorrow either to file new claims

or get thee status of this one. He need help I just dont know what to do to help.. AO claim is something I think he could also apply for but this is not a subject i know too much about. HE has boots on ground

and he has disabilities that could relate to maybe AO I just dont know. Anyone with any suggestion please reply Thanks so much

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On top of that - -

If the VA has been treating it for some time, and it is still present, there is a question of proper treatment.

Usually, such things are cured by proper treatment, at least unless further exposure is a factor.

(Clothes incompletely washed without bleach, etc. This can be a problem, due to the "brighteners" added to washing detergents.

The clothes look and smell clean, but they are not really clean. Or, environmental conditions that promote re-exposure and growth)

My father, a WWII army veteran, had "jungle rot" on and off for decades after WWII. Little greenish spots would develop, usually in skin with hair, or the ears.

In the early 60's he saw a doctor for some other problem. Seems the doctor saw the green spots, was also a WWII veteran of the Pacific, and knew of a treatment that worked.

The doctor swabbed the effected areas with an Iodine solution. After a few treatments, mainly to catch missed areas, the rot was gone within a few months.

It did not re-occur, even after my parents retired and moved to the gulf coast of Florida, and lived in a ground level condo about ten feet above sea level.

Since then, several treatments and even drugs (taken internally) have been developed to cure "rot". The internal drugs are a last resort, because of side effects, and are somewhat toxic.

Jungle rot can be what you mean by jock itch aka

"tinea cruris or ringworm of the groin, is an infection of the groin area caused by fungus."

http://www.nlm.nih.g...icle/000876.htm

Also funguses like this can affect the hands and feet.

The hot and humid environment of Vietnam certainly was a breeding ground for all sorts of skin fungus problems.

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Thanks everyone,just a little update on visit to RO my friend gets over there and he knows more than anyone else about how to file and the regs,

anyway I just had to say HUSS if you want my help and listen :biggrin: .Anyway the appeals team did set up the exams for further testing and that they tried

to get the records but was told they didnot have any records in Grand Rapid so we have to track records somehow. I ask for copy of c-file. In the records

it showed he was a NO-SHOW for the exams but he say he never got the mail. This claim went back to 1983 and he did not show for exam. Also he put

a claim in that they denied 2010 he was a no show but has until Oct 2011 to file Nod. I dont know if it will be better for him to just file a new claim or file

for the NOD because he already lost his eed. What is his best but shortest way to appeal or new claim? . First he need to start treatment and a paper

trail if he would. The rep ask why he was missing appointment? either he had no ride and he didnt know what it was for. I will help him as much as he will

allow me to. I will take him to exams and get him in treatment he says monday we will start on treatment. Where do you send for records 30 years old?

Thanks so much T

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He can try NARA web site -the SF 180 form is there.

Also he can write to JSRRC (Joint Services Records Research Center) Their phone number and address is here at hadit under a search.

"First he need to start treatment and a paper

trail if he would." ?????

Can you give us his Docket and Citation BVA case number?

or can you scan and copy (cover his personal stuff and get his permission to post it here)

this decision?

"they denied 2010 he was a no show but has until Oct 2011 to file Nod"

Was this denial due to his BVA remand asking for further development or exam?

?????

Does he really want to try to attain SC?

Years ago I had a local vet here who certainly- based on what he told me- had a potentially very good PTSD claim.

Yet any attempt I made to help him get SC seemed to go absolutely nowhere.

I tried to hook him up with the local Vet reps and he failed to go to the appt.

Then he told me the reason was his MOS was too sensitive ( I guess he meant classified) and he couldn't share some stuff with them-the stuff he had told me regarding PTSD.

Then the DMII regs came out and I suggested he didnt have to apply for PTSD if he was uncomfortable with the sensitive stuff

because he had DMII , a new presumptive then ,(2001 I think) and PN and a possible heart condition due to the DMII.

He said he was holding off on that and the PTSD claim until the retro would be astronomical.

I tried to explain to him how retro works regarding the formal claim filing date but he didn't care.

So he had apparent AO conditions and presented possibility for PTSD due to his stressors.(if they could be proven)

The time I had spent trying to get him to file a claim had been wasted.

Thinking back ,he kept forgetting to bring his DD 214 over for me to read.

Now I wonder if he even served in Vietnam at all.

I know you are sincere in your efforts to help this vet.But by missing not one but apparently 2 C & Ps -he doesn't seem proactive at all.

GRADUATE ! Nov 2nd 2007 American Military University !

When thousands of Americans faced annihilation in the 1800s Chief

Osceola's response to his people, the Seminoles, was

simply "They(the US Army)have guns, but so do we."

Sameo to us -They (VA) have 38 CFR ,38 USC, and M21-1- but so do we.

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Bertha,

Can you give us his Docket and Citation BVA case number?or can you scan and copy (cover his personal stuff and get his permission to post it here)

this decision? I will tomorrow i had his decision but Igave it back to him.

Was this denial due to his BVA remand asking for further development or exam??????, No it was a new claim he file last year but for the same conditions.

Does he really want to try to attain SC? HE do but he think he knows everything and his mental condition he really need it very bad he is 62 years young & he

serve with my older brother and they both had hard times in Nam. My brother came home he didnt know anyone but my mom the other family he did not recognized

nor did he want to for a long time that war kill or destroyed a lot of young men lives forever he is 62 and some days he think he is still there in nam. So with the help

from here just maybe we can put him on the right road to recovery or at least get him some help. Is there an exam he takes for AO condition his hands trembles and shake

all the time uncontrolable maybe parkinston disease or something. Thanks so much

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On top of that - -

If the VA has been treating it for some time, and it is still present, there is a question of proper treatment.

Usually, such things are cured by proper treatment, at least unless further exposure is a factor.

(Clothes incompletely washed without bleach, etc. This can be a problem, due to the "brighteners" added to washing detergents.

The clothes look and smell clean, but they are not really clean. Or, environmental conditions that promote re-exposure and growth)

My father, a WWII army veteran, had "jungle rot" on and off for decades after WWII. Little greenish spots would develop, usually in skin with hair, or the ears.

In the early 60's he saw a doctor for some other problem. Seems the doctor saw the green spots, was also a WWII veteran of the Pacific, and knew of a treatment that worked.

The doctor swabbed the effected areas with an Iodine solution. After a few treatments, mainly to catch missed areas, the rot was gone within a few months.

It did not re-occur, even after my parents retired and moved to the gulf coast of Florida, and lived in a ground level condo about ten feet above sea level.

Since then, several treatments and even drugs (taken internally) have been developed to cure "rot". The internal drugs are a last resort, because of side effects, and are somewhat toxic.

I bet he used iodine creosote my Father in Law a WWII Dentist used it on almost anything that was infected. Wish I could find some now.

Veterans deserve real choice for their health care.

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"maybe parkinston disease or something"

He needs a definitive diagnosis of his medical conditions.

The hand shaking and trembling could have any one of many causes.

GRADUATE ! Nov 2nd 2007 American Military University !

When thousands of Americans faced annihilation in the 1800s Chief

Osceola's response to his people, the Seminoles, was

simply "They(the US Army)have guns, but so do we."

Sameo to us -They (VA) have 38 CFR ,38 USC, and M21-1- but so do we.

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