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From Col. Dan:
Tell Rep Kline, John (MN)(R-2nd) that veterans will not stand for this, NO
white wash,
We want results, and better budget. Each of you call and/or email him
Washington, D.C. Office:
1429 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515
Main: 202-225-2271
Fax: 202-225-2595
His Chief of Staff: Steven.Sutton@mail.house.gov,
His Budget Staffer; Jean.Hinz@mail.house.gov,
http://www.startribune.com/462/v-print/story/972840.html
Last update: January 31, 2007 - 11:26 PM
VA actions in Marine's case to be investigated
Federal investigators will look into whether VA staff turned away an Iraq
veteran days before he committed suicide.
By Kevin Giles, Star Tribune
A team of federal investigators will arrive today at VA medical centers in
Minneapolis and St. Cloud to look into family claims that Marine veteran
Jonathan J. Schulze was denied a bed for psychiatric care days before he
committed suicide last month.
The Office of the Medical Inspector at the Veterans Affairs central office
in Washington will conduct the investigation, said Joan Vincent, public
affairs officer at the VA Medical Center in St. Cloud.
Schulze hanged himself in New Prague, Minn., on Jan. 16. His father and
stepmother, Jim and Marianne Schulze, said that days earlier, the veteran
twice told VA staff workers -- at the St. Cloud VA hospital on Jan. 11, and
over the phone on Jan. 12 -- that he felt like killing himself. VA
officials, citing privacy laws, have neither confirmed nor denied that
account.
"We'd be breaking the law if we released any information about that,"
Vincent said Wednesday.
Rep. John Kline, R-Minn., said Wednesday that VA officials in Minneapolis,
St. Cloud and Washington, D.C., told him they dispute that Schulze presented
himself to hospital staff as suicidal. Just what happened in the exchange
between Schulze and VA staff should be clearer next week when the
investigation ends, Kline said.
"It's just unconscionable that you have a man that's identified by the
system, yet he gets to the point where he commits suicide," said Kline, a
Marine veteran who represents the district where Schulze lived.
Kline said that he talked with the family this week to express "my great
disappointment and concern about what happened."
Schulze had been seeing a psychiatrist at the Minneapolis VA hospital, but
his father took him to St. Cloud in hopes of getting him admitted more
quickly for psychiatric care. Jim Schulze said his son had been told that he
couldn't be admitted to the Minneapolis VA hospital until March.
Empty beds
Ten of 25 beds in the Minneapolis VA's locked psychiatric unit are occupied
this week, spokesman Steve Moynihan said Wednesday. He said that unit
doesn't have a waiting list.
Schulze, a machine gunner and a corporal, had fought in Iraq in battles
where Marine casualties were high. He had told his family that he felt
guilty that he had lived and close friends had died. He left the Marines in
late 2005 after four years of service.
Schulze's stepmother said that she witnessed Jonathan telling VA staff
workers in St. Cloud that he felt like killing himself. She said she also
heard him tell a VA counselor over the phone the next day that he was
suicidal. After that conversation he told his stepmother that he learned
that he was No. 26 on a waiting list for admittance to the St. Cloud
psychiatric unit.
The St. Cloud VA has no waiting list for its locked, acute psychiatric unit
-- where suicidal or homicidal veterans would be taken -- and never has,
Vincent said this week. "We've never had a wait list for our beds in the
acute psychiatric unit, where we would likely take people if we thought they
were suicidal," she said.
A separate mental-health unit with beds had a waiting list of 21 veterans on
Monday, Vincent said. That unit, known as residential treatment, is more for
ongoing cases involving mental health and substance abuse, she said.
Although the residential treatment unit also handles post-traumatic stress
disorder (PTSD) cases, she said that any veteran who talked about suicide
would go to the acute psychiatric unit right away.
Vincent said it's VA policy to even call local police to check on a veteran
who, over the telephone, says that he's suicidal. The veteran first might be
encouraged to visit the nearest emergency room at any hospital, she said.
She said she didn't know if Minnesota's two VA hospitals had sent suicidal
patients to community hospitals in the past because of a shortage of beds in
locked units.
Two other members of Minnesota's congressional delegation expressed concern
about the VA's ability to cope with a growing wave of troops returning from
Iraq. Many of those veterans are expected to need counseling because of
combat stress, lengthy separation from families, financial problems and
other worries.
"The hidden costs of this war are not being addressed," said Rep. Tim Walz,
D-Minn., a member of the U.S. House Veterans' Affairs Committee and a
veteran. "I've been deeply concerned. I think there's been almost nothing
done to prepare for this."
VA unprepared?
Schulze's death, Walz said, points to a looming problem as more veterans
return to Minnesota from Iraq. "I'm anguished over this," he said of
Schulze's death. "What's heartbreaking is that Jonathan had the foresight to
reach out."
Rep. Jim Ramstad, R-Minn., said he's written a letter to R. James Nicholson,
who heads the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, asking what it would take
financially to meet the needs of returning Iraq veterans.
"None of our brave troops who are suffering from mental illness should be
placed on a waiting list for treatment," Ramstad said. "It's unfortunate
that it takes a tragedy like this to focus congressional attention."
Walz said that VA hospitals in Minnesota are "taxed to their limit" and that
families of Iraq veterans are "totally lost" in the struggle to provide care
to mounting numbers of men and women who have served overseas.
"I don't think we've seen anything like it," he said.
Vincent said that the St. Cloud VA began an internal review as a result of
the Schulze case, and that such reviews are standard "whenever there is an
adverse event." Results will remain private, she said.
The investigation by federal officials might be the first of its kind at the
VA's hospitals in Minnesota, and it is separate from the internal review,
Vincent said.
Kevin Giles . 612-673-7707 . kgiles@startribune.com
C2007 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.
-----Original Message-----
From: Langlie [mailto:slanglie@usfamily.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:46 AM
To: Colonel Dan Cedusky
Subject: VA actions in Marine's case to be investigated
Colonel Dan:
Here is today's update on the tragic, unnecessary suicide of ex-Marine
Schulze, in Minnesota. Some of the sordid tales of incompetence in the VA
and in the federal government are now coming to light, courtesy of the
Minneapolis StarTribune.
I would hope that you post this article for the enlightenment of other
veterans. I, personally, am disappointed that Rep. John Kline, a retired
Marine Corps officer, himself, is mouthing the VA excuses for this tragedy.
It is indeed, a clear failure of our federal government.
Sincerely,
Stephen L. Langlie
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Dan Cedusky, Champaign IL "Colonel Dan"
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http://www.angelfire.com/il2/VeteranIssues/
GRADUATE ! Nov 2nd 2007 American Military University !
When thousands of Americans faced annihilation in the 1800s Chief
Osceola's response to his people, the Seminoles, was
simply "They(the US Army)have guns, but so do we."
Sameo to us -They (VA) have 38 CFR ,38 USC, and M21-1- but so do we.
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