exam 8 minutes

[uniccco]

Service connected  for MDD, Panic Disorder , Insomnia disorder, Obstructive sleep apnea all triggers for migranes i was of course denied she said migranes were primary hedaches and cant be caused by any of these triggers, she addressed no agravation and denied me what should i do  ?

[broncovet]

Mr.  Cue

    "Thousands" of Veteran's have won benefits with the help of an IMO/IME.  In fact, so many Vets there is an "entire industry" whereby Veterans are connected with a provider who can offer IMO/IME for a fee.   IMO's are often recommend by Vets advocates, VSO's and attorneys to correct deficient exams.  

     While "you" may not beleive in IMO's, this does not replace the fact that many have gotten them and won additional benefits.  One of the Vets who have gotten additional benefits with an IMO is me.  Mine was rather cheap, around $500,  and resulted in thousands of dollars of retro I could not obtain otherwise, even after trying for more than 17 years.  

     If IMO's/IME's "did not work", then Vets would likely stop paying for them, and the industry would dry up and blow away, like dust.  

    The OP indicated his exam lasted 8 minutes and was unfavorable.  That is exactly when an IMO/IME is needed. 

https://cck-law.com/blog/independent-medical-opinions-for-veterans-claims-do-they-help/#:~:text=Independent medical opinions%2C or IMOS,or prior examinations were inadequate.

[Mr cue]

Well I have won with out one many times.

We can agree to disagree on this one once again.

If he feel the exam wasn't right can he fight that why does he need a imo to do that.

My opinion only time a imo is need is maybe when u are trying to get service connected.

There is no law that the va has to accept these pay to play exams.

I just am not a fan of them

Edited January 30, 2022 by Mr cue

[Buck52]

Mr Cue,  broncovet is correct as usual.

 

Mr Cue 

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''why would he need a paid medical opinion. To say his condition is worse or cause something else.

He should have records from the doctor who treat him for his service connected condition.

I am not a paid medical opinion type of guy because you can pay an the va doesn't have to accept it.

Money down the drain.''

 

 Mr Cue, With all due respect  some of us Veteran have to get a IMO/IME when the VA Dr are aginst us  for some reasoe or another, 

 Please don'tell Veterans on Hadit  a IMO/IME is a money down the drain''   just becuse you never had to,   (good for you) but like I said some of Veterans and theres a whole lot on hadit  that had to get IMO'S /IME'S  I KNOW IDID SERVERAL TIMES to win my claims.

This tells me that all VA Ds are not the same  and some do what we ask them to but most VA Dr's  won't..>  your lucky that your VAMC Dr's help you out  but at thses other VMAC  across the counrty the Dr's are different  they think its wrong to give us a favorble IMO because they work for the VA   and they think they could possibly lose their Job with the VA (Sure this is an ''adversarial '' type situation) So the VA Dr's won't help us.

ad·ver·sar·i·al

/ˌadvərˈserēəl/

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adjective

involving or characterized by conflict or opposition.

opposed; hostile.

"the reviewer’s presumed adversarial relationship to his subject"

LAW

(of a trial or legal procedure) in which the parties in a dispute have the responsibility for finding and presenting evidence.

"equality between prosecution and defense is essential in an adversarial system of justice"

So when a VA  Dr won't help us  beings that the VA  APPROVES ARE CLIAMS BY MEDICAL DR OPINION/& EXAMS  AND THE VA DR'S WON'T HELP ,THE ONLY COURSE IS FOR THAT VETERAN TO GO GET A IMO/IME  SO HE CAN WIN HIS CLAIM.

PLEASE DON'T GIVE OUT ADIVISE AND TELL THE VETERANS THAT COME TO HADIT FOR HELP NOT TO GO GET A IMO/IME just because toy bever had to. 

''because its money down the drain''

When a Veterans VAMC Dr's  Won't help and the VA  Only takes the word of a professinol  That is Quailfied to give his/her professinol opinion   M.D.  OR A Specialist   that my friend is the only way he can win his claim  and we have to pay these Dr's for their services. (IMO/IME's)

I would say your lucky to have  VAMC  Dr's that helped you out..The Majority won't.Due mostly on the word ''adversarial

because some VAMC Dr just will not help out.

 

 

Edited January 31, 2022 by Buck52

[Rivet62]

1 minute ago, Buck52 said:

when the VA Dr are aginst us  for some reasoe or another, 

Crappy VA doctors happen. They can really stall your claim by not following through with the care they should be tending to. They mess your claim up by ignoring your medical situation and giving opinions on the record without having done any tests or imaging.

The crappy experience I had with my very first VA doctor... I started VA healthcare in 2013, decades after discharge from service. After decades of no treatment for my spine I was a mess by the time I saw a VA doctor for the first time, but it took 3 years to wrestle him for an MRI.  Patient Advocacy had me submit a request to transfer to a different doc. The VISN Chief refused the request.  So, I fought that VA doc to be truthful in my medical record for 3 years.  Fortunately, I tried Patient Advocacy again and this time the executive of patient affairs(?) was filling in for a clerk that called out sick. His office was in the VAMC's executive suite. He told me to communicate my symptoms in MyHealth eVet messaging. He said EVERYTHING I say to the docs should be through MyHealth eVet messaging, because it doesn't go away. It's permanent, unlike in-person discussions that never end up in your medical record.  He said to state my symptoms, give it about 3 weeks, THEN make another request to switch doctors. Well, the VISN Chief is a doctor too!  

Three weeks after my messaging of symptoms, I was put with 3 different doctors all tending to me until I could be placed permanently with another doctor. My old doctor was taken out of his permanent employee status and put on PRN status.

I would have gladly paid for an IMO/IME, if I could have, while trying to get my claims fully developed. I finally had the confidence to submit my intent to file a claim in 2016, after getting a new VA doctor.

[Buck52]

Rivet62

I agree

Now please don't get me wrong here  some times the VA Dr will help us and we may not know it??

if we look at the medical notes after 3 days from seeing this VA Doc  a Veteran can get on Myhealthyvet and read these Notes the Dr 's Write up after seeing you or may be examine you  Ect ect,,,

Some times these Notes can be very Beneficial to the Veteran    he cam make copies and highlite the parts thats favorable to what he needs for his claim,   he can submit these notes  ''highlite '' what is favorable to his/her claim so the raters will be sure to see it .

Edited January 31, 2022 by Buck52
spelling of COURSE or is that Spelling of KORSE ???

[uniccco]

To all i really appreciate your advise and comments the examiner was from LHI  she had her NP license 12 months before i saw her so i am disappointed not surprised . THE fight continues i wont give up for this denial was not right at all.