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VA form 21-4192, employer out of business.

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Greetings, long time since I been here.   Sitting with 90% disability and filed for TDIU through state of Florida VSO.   I am unable to get an appointment with VSO  for a month. 

 

VA told me to send a VA 21-4192 to my former employee.   I have not worked for them since 1999 and they have went out of business, I worked in the same place from 1971 to 1999 but for different companys.  I am guessing I need to notify the VA of this but how exactly do I notify them?  I do not see a chat button or form to fill out. Any input, suggestions or wise cracks appreciated.  Jim   Semper Fi

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You can just upload a 4138 or call in to the National Call center (800-827-1000) and tell them. There shouldn't have been a request for it, anyway- if you haven't worked since 1999 its irrelevant. In any case, a claim cannot be denied solely on the lack of returned 4192's, we receive far fewer back than are sent. 

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I am guessing I need to notify the VA of this but how exactly do I notify them?

IMHO, you can fill out the form yourself and send it into the VA. Make sure that you note on the form that the company or agency went out of business. You can use block 14A and block 22. This way the VA won't take forever to begin to process your claim. Not sure how long the VA will wait but by having this form submitted, it should tell the VA that there is no need to wait because the business no longer exists. There is no need to sign and date the form, just make sure you keep copies of it or them. This is what I did, and the VA awarded me two separate retroactive effective dates. I filled the form out as going to the company and then going to the VA.

My intentions are to help, my advice maybe wrong, be your own advocate and know what is in your C-File and the 38 CFR that governs your disabilities and conditions.

Do your own homework. No one knows the veteran’s symptoms like the veteran. Never Give Up.

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Thanks a bunch guys,  I was trying to do this on the computer and getting nowhere.    In the middle of throwing things and filling the swear jar  I got a call from vet services.   Unknown to me my VSO  on April 17th had applied for a increase for my PTSD, which had just increased from 50-70%. a few months ago.  Anyway I have a P&T appointment May 2nd, lightening quick. 

I called the 800 number and a few minutes on the phone with a nice lady and everything is taken care of.  I will put them on speed dial.    Thanks again

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Keep in mind that the call center people (800-827-1000) are not cleared to see your whole claim- there are limits to the information they can provide, and they aren't trained to work on claims so there are big pieces of the process that they legitimately wouldn't know. They can read our notes, input noters for us, and provide directions to the correct places to call/talk to, and discuss things like what form(s) you need for whatever action. There is a separate avenue for information called VERA which has RO personnel that work within it- they can get a lot more hands-on with somethings. Google VERA and you should find the page to set up an appointment via phone or in person if you ever need to.

The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound.Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book,and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching. --17 different possible sources, all lacking verifiable attribution.

B.S. Doane College, Mgt Info Systems/Systems Analysis 2008

M.S.Ed. Purdue University, Instructional Development and Technology, Feb. 2021

M.S. Purdue University Information Technology/InfoSec, Dec 2022

100% P/T

MDD

Spine

Radiculopathy

Sleep Apnea

Some other stuff

-------------------------------------------
B.S. Info Systems Mgt/Systems Analysis-Doane College 2008
M.S. Instructional Technology and Design- Purdue University 2021

 

(I AM NOT A RATER- I work the claims BEFORE they are rated, annotating medical evidence in your records, VA and Legal documents,  and DA/DD forms- basically a paralegal/vso/etc except that I also evaluate your records based on Caluza and try to justify and schedule the exams that you go to based on whether or not your records have enough in them to warrant those)

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