Va Supervisor Threatens Me

[Cruinthe]

So I pass out cards and generally BS with my fellow veterans when I am in the VARO waiting area. I spoke to one young man about his case. After the conversation, a VA supervisor walked up to him and loudly warned him to not listen to my advice, and not to talk to me at all.

Fast forward to today, I went in to the VARO to clarify an issue about my DRO hearing. I asked the same VA supervisor about the conversation he had with the young man, and I was warned again that I may not speak with anyone while waiting at the VARO.

Anyone have any feedback on this?

[Tbird]

wtf, over? I honestly think I might be sitting in VA jail if someone poked a figure into my chest. That is very risky behavior. Please be clear though when telling the story, I'm a bit fuzzy on these points.

Did you ask to speak to VA representative that works for the VA not a service organization?

Did the person you interacted with work for Disabled American Veterans or Veterans Affairs?

Theere were so many other ways to handle this situation professionally, it ticks me off that she did this to you. Were you making a ruckus? Were you advising veterans to fire their service officers? I just don't see why she was so bent out of shape.

Man if they did this to you, they must really hate me :)

Well, considering the fact that;;

1) There was a VA employee sitting barely 5 feet away from us the whole time

2) Had it been ME behaving in a same manner as the DAV rep (getting in someones face, being verbally abusive, jabbing fingers and shouting orders), the security guards would have tazered me, then he U.S Marshals would have shot me dead

3) The DAV rep admitted she knew Norman had cancelled the DAV as his POA, but she came out anyway, even through we asked for a VA rep, not a DAV rep, so that means this entire event was a provocation orchestrated by the VA and the DAV with the intent to entice me into a physical confrontation, otherwise known as entrapment.

I have discussed this subject with a very senior veterans rights figure. He has been able to confirm from an actual VA employee that the VA does in fact utilize informants to spy on "problem veterans". These informants are recruited from the ranks of the service organizations. I am not sure if this fact is going to be exposed at this time, but I am moving in that direction.

So I again assert that the VA is working in tandem with the service orgs, and both groups are merely two sides of the same corrupt coin.

[halos2]

Your rights end when you step on their property, I guess. OMG I don't know how you kept your kool. Old dog here would have prob yelled out hey everybody see how I was just verbally and physically assaulted! Sleeping With The Enemy...VSO's in VARO.

POWER trips is what they all are on!!

Glad you are getting media involved, enough is enough! Good luck with your plight here.

[Berta]

" I am certified by the NVLSP as a veterans advocate"

I have not read all this yet-but if you mean you have the Certificate in Basic Veterans Law from NVLSP-

I have that certificate too but I do not represent veterans as I am not accredited by the VA.

I am not accredited because I have not taken the Seminar training (it used to be in Texas) nor have I applied for formal accreditation with the VA.

Anyone can certainly represent a veteran on a one time basis as their formal representation-usually- those regs are within the VA's accreditation regs.

But one must be accredited by the VA in order to say they are a VSO or veteran's representative with the legal standing to hold their POA.

Certificates are good and bad.

I also have Certificate in Military Studies and Certificate in Agriculture and a degree from AMU.

The degree and separate Cert from AMU does not allow me to go into battle and I learned more by hands on livestock farming than I did at Penn State to get the Ag Cert.

"So I pass out cards" are they Hadit cards?

I had to do that secretively at the local VAMC.One cannot solicit anything on federal property.

But my former vet reps asked me for a stack ( his office was on the VA grounds) and he said he would hand them out to vets for me.I dont know he he really did that.

He should have used the hadit card himself to get here and join and learn something . He is no longer employed as a vet rep. (which is a very good thing)

I don't know all the circumstances here but the NVLSP Certificate is only for basic Vets law.

Mine s dated 1997 and I intend to upgrade and take the course again this September. No representation rights come with this type of Certification.It only means you passed the BT course in VA case law.

[RSG]

Hi,

I read someplace, I think, that the DAV can be sued if they have lost monetary compensation for a veteren. Is that true?..I think I read it in the DAV bylaws......

RSG

[Berta]

Yes - any Vet rep or NSO can be sued if their actions or lack of actions) caused a vet to lose compensation.

Larry Scott many years ago (I posted the link here) at VA WAtchdog had a story where the vet sued and succeeded.

The rep apparently held onto a TDIU form from the vet and didnt file it. The vet found out and filed it again-The VA would only award TDIU back to date of the TDIU claim form.

The Vet's medical evidence warranted a much more favorable TDIU based on the original form date.

The vet recovered from the Rep or their POA org what he lost in TDIU compensation.

I suggest first however going to the rep's boss, then the orgs highest director, and if nothing succeeds in resolving a complaint that could involve negligence - then file formal claim with OGC and/or Sue the rep.In a state court.not federal court.

[evandc]

DAV NSO's at my RO & I have a history. Many years ago I wrote the DAV National Commander & they decided to call me after than. Funny they didn't bother to return calls before that. After that I did the TDIU Claim & the AO Cancer without any help from anyone. I also was helping a friend with some stressors & his DAV SO decide that he would sit on the information & use it later to appeal..grr. that still pisses me of to think about it. I made the mistake of going to RO with lady that was visiting the state AL SO & after I told her make sure you have copies of everything & keep the originals & the SO tossed me from her office. I have PTSD & decided I didn't need the hassle of dealing with these people & think behind the scenes is much better for my health.