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Charleese

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Hi everyone,

My husband finally got that letter that I spoke of under Options post. It does not mention trial or hearing as he was told by supervisor who called him.

In it they acknowledge that they received his disagreement notice for his 1958 claim, and they give him an option to have a DRO review or he could do the Taditional Appeal Process. It explains exactly what each mean. Matter of fact in DRO it sttes New decision: The DRO will then make a new decision. You will be notified of the decision and your appeal rights.

Which one do you think he should take DRO or traditional? Also, which is faster?

Thanks!

Charleese

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Charleese;

It is lots of good documentation and rules and regs on how they should be applied (if I can find the rules & regs in time).

That is why the postings of links here is sooooo important.

Perhaps .. I even hold some back info. for round 2 or 3 with the VARO too ????

So .. everytime .. they talk, write or see me in person ... I get to continue to ... "get my point across" ... and reinforce my case.

Also ... it is important that they realize that you ... will NOT give up too.

Good luck ...

...Magoo .. aka .. Bill ... B)

PS ... From watching Ms. Berta tactics ... which are brillant ... she has 2 prong attack ... from what I have seen several times.

(1) She gives them lots of documentation on the claim.

(2) Then she shows them the rules & regs that they have to play by. (Many of DVA folks don't know them).

This is brillant and they know that you know how they should be applied.

My opinion is ... a lot of VARO claims are shot down .. because of .. their lack of knowledge of their own rules & regs.

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<b>... Magoo ... </b>

<b>... At this very moment ... many in the U.S. Military are in ... "HARM'S WAY" ... please, let us NOT forget them ...</b>

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Charleese -I love how Bill put that-

I call it using suppression and cover fire-for assymetric warfare manuevers - on paper-

We are on a battlefield-when we deal with VA-

I am not a veteran, but I go to a military school- I think it has helped me a lot dealing with claims-

I love it when vets rely on their training and approach their claims in the way they served.

I have three war plans- what I mean is that I have listed as plans, all of the steps I can take, to get my claims resolved.

Such as the Death certificate I have-for Rod.

It can be changed. I have gone round and round with the Medical Examiner and coroner on this for 2 years now-they have the evidence they need to change it and I helped other widows -one here and one email widow get their Death certs changed with medical evidence that the ME did not know of.

So- this is part of my war plan and today I took more steps to get this resolved by challenging, with medical info, some stuff the last ME stated.

My letter and evidence for that is all ready for the PO but we lost power for 2 hours today and the scanner just said the village lost power again.

So the closest PO in the village might be shut down. Regardless- the new ME has not replied to my email yet

but this is the kind of work it took for me to win my past claims.

Even though the evidence they had -within months- could have resolved them.

My point here and Bill and many others might agree that-

in this war of words we get into with VA we must be vigilant, so they cant ambush us,we must anticipate their moves, study their intelligence (38 CFR)

and do all we can to get our claims resolved. Someone here said the other day it can almost become a full time job- they are right-

Persistence, hard work, and Evidence does it.

We have to surround the enemy- and all we mean by this war talk is that-

It is Evidence that is the firepower a vet needs-and we should send them all the evidence we can-surround them with it-

even if they dont read it for years- at some point they will-

Bill is right on the Face to Face too- when a vet can go to the VARO themselves and meet directly with a DRO or HO- they can be not only persuasive but certainly produce and get the RO employee to acknowledge their evidence.

GRADUATE ! Nov 2nd 2007 American Military University !

When thousands of Americans faced annihilation in the 1800s Chief

Osceola's response to his people, the Seminoles, was

simply "They(the US Army)have guns, but so do we."

Sameo to us -They (VA) have 38 CFR ,38 USC, and M21-1- but so do we.

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Amen to what both Berta and Bill have said. When I was fighting the VA over their withholding of my disability, I found the regulation on their web site and sent it to them via mail and the web. I also found appeals cases where the issue had been resolved previously and sent those as well. While it may seem rediculous that these people do not know the material, the simple fact is that it would be difficult for a normal person to be able to remember it all. That is okay though, that is why they made books, so that information can be recorded and is available to refresh one's memory. The real problem is that those who work at VA are sometimes extremely negligant in their research.

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Taking the DRO election does not stop the traditional appeals process. It will add some time to the traditional appeals process, but DROs reverse about 20-25% of RO decisions. DROs are supposed to be selected from the most experienced VSRs and pick up a lot of errors. If the DRO continues the decision on appeal you will get a Supplemental Statement of the Case to which you will have 60 days to notify the RO to proceed with your appeal. File the Form 9 with the DRO election form.

Hi everyone,

My husband finally got that letter that I spoke of under Options post. It does not mention trial or hearing as he was told by supervisor who called him.

In it they acknowledge that they received his disagreement notice for his 1958 claim, and they give him an option to have a DRO review or he could do the Taditional Appeal Process. It explains exactly what each mean. Matter of fact in DRO it sttes New decision: The DRO will then make a new decision. You will be notified of the decision and your appeal rights.

Which one do you think he should take DRO or traditional? Also, which is faster?

Thanks!

Charleese

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My DRO review, delayed my claim by 4 yrs & repeated almost word for word on 2 soc's, what the RO stated when it was first denied.

I wouldn't put much faith in the DRO process or anything handled by the RO's.

Most of them can't remember their names, let

alone codes from a manual.

The BVA may atleast take the time to glance over favorable evidence. The VARO & DRO review will more than likely distort & hide "any" favorable evidence in their soc's.

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This, below, is very simple to me. I taught this in college. It is only a small part of a very complex program. This is where my PTSD has taken me. To become a lawyer now is absurd, to me. The young vet, with PTSD, should not have to become a lawyer to get help or benefits. If a system has hidden knowledge, it needs to be exposed free of charge, because it is discriminatory or not equal justice.

Lawyers, of Vets choice, should be paid for Vets from the Equal Justice Act. Criminals and illegals get free lawyers, because they are broke. Are veterans much less than criminals or illegals? Who are the people who would complain about free lawyers for veterans? I have been pushing hard for this for two years. A petition for extraordinary relief will pay back the lawyers fees anyway.

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