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Hearing Loss and Tinnitus

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Hello, to my fellow service men and women.  I just had a C&P for Hearing Loss and Tinnitus.  I wanted to get the experts thoughts on this.  It looks like I don't have a good chance for the hearing loss, but I might for the Tinnitus.  What do you think? and at what percentage?....thanks everyone.

 LOCAL TITLE: C&P AUDIO                                          
STANDARD TITLE: C & P EXAMINATION NOTE                          
DATE OF NOTE: DEC 23, 2015@08:30     ENTRY DATE: DEC 23, 2015@10:07:40      
      AUTHOR: TAYLOR,CHRISTOPHER   EXP COSIGNER:                           
     URGENCY:                            STATUS: COMPLETED                     


                            Hearing Loss and Tinnitus
                        Disability Benefits Questionnaire

    Name of patient/Veteran:  TAYLOR,DAVID G
    
    Is this DBQ being completed in conjunction with a VA 21-2507, C&P 
Examination
    Request?
    [X] Yes   [ ] No
    

    ACE and Evidence Review
    -----------------------
    Indicate method used to obtain medical information to complete this 
document:
    
    [X] In-person examination
    

    Evidence Review
    ---------------
    Evidence reviewed (check all that apply):
    
    [X] VA e-folder (VBMS or Virtual VA)

    Evidence Comments:
      C-file reviewed in VBMS.  Audiological evaluations dated 
8/4/94(enlistment)
      and 6/10/99(separation) revealed hearing within normal limits, 
bilaterally.
      No STS noted between enlistment and separation evaluations.

    This exam is for: Hearing loss and/or tinnitus (audiologist, performing
    current exam)
    

                          SECTION 1:  HEARING LOSS (HL)
                          -----------------------------

    1. Objective Findings
    ---------------------
    a. Puretone thresholds in decibels (air conduction):
    
                                    RIGHT EAR
    +==============================================================+
    |    A   |    B   |    C   |    D   |    E   |    F   |    G   |
    |========+========+========+========+========+========+========+========+
    |   500  |  1000  |  2000  |  3000  |  4000  |  6000  |  8000  | Avg Hz |
    |   Hz*  |   Hz   |   Hz   |   Hz   |   Hz   |   Hz   |   Hz   | (B-E)**|
    |========+========+========+========+========+========+========+========|
    |     0  |     0  |     5  |    10  |    10  |     5  |     5  |     6  |
    +=======================================================================+

                                    LEFT EAR
    +==============================================================+
    |    A   |    B   |    C   |    D   |    E   |    F   |    G   |
    |========+========+========+========+========+========+========+========+
    |   500  |  1000  |  2000  |  3000  |  4000  |  6000  |  8000  | Avg Hz |
    |   Hz*  |   Hz   |   Hz   |   Hz   |   Hz   |   Hz   |   Hz   | (B-E)**|
    |========+========+========+========+========+========+========+========|
    |     0  |     5  |     0  |     5  |     5  |    15  |     0  |     4  |
    +=======================================================================+

      * The puretone threshold at 500 Hz is not used in determining the
        evaluation but is used in determining whether or not a ratable hearing
        loss exists.
     ** The average of B, C, D, and E.
    *** CNT - Could Not Test
    
    b. Were there one or more frequency(ies) that could not be tested: No

    c. Validity of puretone test results: Test results are valid for rating
    purposes.

    d. Speech Discrimination Score (Maryland CNC word list):
       +=======================+
       |  RIGHT EAR  |   100%  |
       |=============+=========|
       |  LEFT EAR   |   100%  |
       +=======================+

    e. Appropriateness of Use of Word Recognition Score (Maryland CNC word 
list):
       Right Ear:
       Is Word Discrimination Score available? Yes
         Word Discrimination Score appropriateness:
           Use of word recognition score is appropriate for this Veteran.
           
       Left Ear:
       Is Word Discrimination Score available? Yes
         Word Discrimination Score appropriateness:
           Use of word recognition score is appropriate for this Veteran.
           
    f. Audiologic Findings
    Summary of Immittance (Tympanometry) Findings:
    
+=============================================================================+
    |                     |        RIGHT EAR          |         LEFT EAR          
|
    
|=====================+===========================+===========================|
    | Acoustic immittance | [ ] Normal  [ ] Abnormal  | [ ] Normal  [ ] Abnormal  
|
    
|=====================+===========================+===========================|
    | Ipsilateral         |                           |                           
|
    |   Acoustic Reflexes | [ ] Normal  [ ] Abnormal  | [ ] Normal  [ ] Abnormal  
|
    
|=====================+===========================+===========================|
    | Contralateral       |                           |                           
|
    |   Acoustic Reflexes | [ ] Normal  [ ] Abnormal  | [ ] Normal  [ ] Abnormal  
|
    
|=====================+===========================+===========================|
    | Unable to interpret |                           |                           
|
    |   reflexes due to   |            [ ]            |            [ ]            
|
    |   artifact          |                           |                           
|
    
|=====================+===========================+===========================|
    | Unable to obtain/   |                           |                           
|
    |   maintain seal     |            [X]            |            [X]            
|
    
+=============================================================================+

    2. Diagnosis
    ------------
    
    RIGHT EAR
    ---------
       [X] Normal hearing
       
       [ ] Conductive hearing loss            ICD code:
       
       [ ] Mixed hearing loss                 ICD code:
       
       [ ] Sensorineural hearing loss (in the frequency range of 500-4000 Hz)*
                                              ICD code:
       [ ] Sensorineural hearing loss (in the frequency range of 6000 Hz or
           higher frequencies)**              ICD code:
       [ ] Significant changes in hearing thresholds in service***
       
    LEFT EAR
    --------
       [X] Normal hearing
       
       [ ] Conductive hearing loss            ICD code:
       
       [ ] Mixed hearing loss                 ICD code:
       
       [ ] Sensorineural hearing loss (in the frequency range of 500-4000 Hz)*
                                              ICD code:
       [ ] Sensorineural hearing loss (in the frequency range of 6000 Hz or
           higher frequencies)**              ICD code:
       [ ] Significant changes in hearing thresholds in service***
       
    NOTES:
      * The Veteran may have hearing loss at a level that is not considered to 
be
        a disability for VA purposes.  This can occur when the auditory
        thresholds are greater than 25 dB at one or more frequencies in the
        500-4000 Hz range.
        
     ** The Veteran may have impaired hearing, but it does not meet the criteria
        to be considered a disability for VA purposes.  For VA purposes, the
        diagnosis of hearing impairment is based upon testing at frequency 
ranges
        of 500, 1000, 2000, 3000, and 4000 Hz.  If there is no HL in the 
500-4000
        Hz range, but there is HL above 4000 Hz, check this box.
        
    *** The Veteran may have a significant change in hearing threshold in
        service, but it does not meet the criteria to be considered a disability
        for VA purposes.  (A significant change in hearing threshold may 
indicate
        noise exposure or acoustic trauma.)
        
    3. Etiology
    -----------
    Right Ear
    Was there a permanent positive threshold shift (worse than reference
    threshold) greater than normal measurement variability at any frequency

    between 500 and 6000 Hz for the right ear? No
       Opinion provided for the right ear: Yes
       If present, is the Veteran's right ear hearing loss at least as likely as
       not (50% probability or greater) caused by or a result of an event in
       military service? No
         Rationale (Provide rationale for either a yes, no answer or speculation
         reason): Given there was no significant shift in hearing sensitivity
         between Enlistment and Separation audiological evaluations, and current
         hearing levels do not meet the criteria for disability under VA
         regulations, it is not necessary to discuss etiology of hearing loss.

    Did hearing loss exist prior to service? No

    Left Ear
    Was there a permanent positive threshold shift (worse than reference
    threshold) greater than normal measurement variability at any frequency
    between 500 and 6000 Hz for the left ear? No
       Opinion provided for the left ear: Yes
       If present, is the Veteran's left ear hearing loss at least as likely as
       not (50% probability or greater) caused by or a result of an event in
       military service? No
         Rationale (Provide rationale for either a yes, no answer or speculation
         reason): Given there was no significant shift in hearing sensitivity
         between Enlistment and Separation audiological evaluations, and current
         hearing levels do not meet the criteria for disability under VA
         regulations, it is not necessary to discuss etiology of hearing loss.

    Did hearing loss exist prior to service? No

    4. Functional impact of hearing loss
    ------------------------------------
    Does the Veteran's hearing loss impact ordinary conditions of daily life,
    including ability to work: Yes
      If yes, describe impact in the Veteran's own words: Veteran reports having
      difficulty understanding speech, especially when in environments with
      background noise present.
      
    5. Remarks, if any, pertaining to hearing loss:
    -----------------------------------------------
       Veteran reports history of noise exposure to gunfire and explosions while
       serving in the military.  Veteran denies history of post service
       occupational noise exposure working IT in quiet environments.
       

 

 

                              SECTION 2:  TINNITUS
                              --------------------
    1. Medical history
    ------------------
    Does the Veteran report recurrent tinnitus: Yes
       Date and circumstances of onset of tinnitus: Veteran reports subjective,
       mild, intermittent (occurring only when in quiet environments) tinnitus
       bilaterally that started while serving in the military.
       
    2. Etiology of tinnitus
    -----------------------
    At least as likely as not (50% probability or greater) caused by or a result
    of military noise exposure.
      Rationale: Based on the veteran's reported history, it is at least as
      likely as not that the tinnitus is a result of military noise exposure.
      
    3. Functional impact of tinnitus
    --------------------------------
    Does the Veteran's tinnitus impact ordinary conditions of daily life,
    including ability to work: No
    4. Remarks, if any, pertaining to tinnitus::
    --------------------------------------------
     No response provided
    
    NOTE:  VA may request additional medical information, including additional
           examinations if necessary to complete VA's review of the Veteran's
           application.

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Your test does not show hearing loss. Tinnitus might be granted but that will only be at 10%.

Wondering why you put in for hearing loss, when you don't have it?

 

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Because, I had failed the hearing test twice when I was separating from the service. So it was in my medical records.  It must have improved

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Well I would kind of question that? Do you have copies of the failed test in service and can post their numbers?

Hearing loss does not get better, some where something is not kosher in Denmark!

 

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Your exam indicated normal hearing in both ears, but you have tinnitus related to military service.  I recommend not dropping the claim, but continuing as hearing loss gets worse over time, not better.   Service connection, even for tinnitus at 10%,  will get you some benefits, in addition to the 133 bucks per month.  

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      I originally filed a claim for bilateral hearing loss for both my left and right ear, but 2 years ago was only awarded Service Connection for my Left Ear, but only at 0%. The VA said that it was at 0% due to my Right Ear being at normal hearing at the time of my hearing test. But I just now filed a claim for an increase in my Left Ear hearing loss. I went for another C&P hearing exam. I told the Hearing Doctor that now my Right Ear was getting bad too and could she test me for hearing loss in my right ear this time. When the test was all over she told me that I did have some Right Ear hearing loss this time, but it was no where near as bad as my Left Ear. So I left there thinking I would be awarded something for my Right Ear now that the Hearing Test showed Right Ear hearing loss. But on Ebenefits it still shows Not Service Connected. How can you have your left ear service connected for hearing loss and not your right ear, if you were exposed to an explosion? It doesn't make any sense. That was the whole reason they service connected my Left Ear to begin with. Now that the hearing exam shows hearing loss in my Right Ear, the VA gives the excuse that my Right Ear hearing loss isn't Service Connected, because whenever they originally tested my Ears 2 years ago for my original claim the hearing exam didn't show any Right Ear hearing loss. But everyone knows that Hearing Loss can occur many years after the fact. My Dad served in Vietnam and was exposed to explosions on a daily basis, but he didn't show any immediate signs of hearing loss for decades. It wasn't until the last few years that we've noticed his hearing getting worse, and so now he filed a VA claim and was awarded for Hearing Loss and that was from back in 1969. So Hearing Loss doesn't have to happen overnight. Just because I didn't have it 2 years ago, but I now do, doesn't mean it isn't being caused from the same explosions from whenever I was in the service and what caused my Left Ear hearing loss. Has anyone else been through anything like this before? Any suggestions as to what I might be able to do to help? Thanks.
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      All VA Claims questions should be posted on our forums. Read the forums without registering, to post you must register it’s free. Register for a free account.

      Tips on posting on the forums.

      Post a clear title like ‘Need help preparing PTSD claim’ or “VA med center won’t schedule my surgery” instead of ‘I have a question’.


      Knowledgable people who don’t have time to read all posts may skip yours if your need isn’t clear in the title. I don’t read all posts every login and will gravitate towards those I have more info on.


      Use paragraphs instead of one huge, rambling introduction or story. Again – You want to make it easy for others to help. If your question is buried in a monster paragraph there are fewer who will investigate to dig it out.


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      Post clear questions and then give background info on them.

      Examples:

      A. I was previously denied for apnea – Should I refile a claim?


      I was diagnosed with apnea in service and received a CPAP machine but claim was denied in 2008. Should I refile?



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      I was involved in traumatic incident on base in 1974 and have had nightmares ever since, but I did not go to mental health while enlisted. How can I get help?



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