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Honorable Discharge for Education Purposes

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Has anyone ever heard of this discharge?

Does this qualify you for benefits? Medical, disability, housing voucher, etc.

The veteran was only present in the military for 21 days before the discharge.

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@GBArmy, ironically we had a meeting about this same issue back over the summer.

 

A retired army colonel who commanded the Administrative School at Ft Jackson told our think tank that DD 214s that don't have a discharge status "Generally means no time served..", in other words, there is no status.

 

Crazy you say? Yes.

 

One can only ass/u/me that anyone who served less than 180 days, and doesn't have a % at discharge, doesn't have a status at all, and therefore are robots.(Humor inclusive)

 

Allan 2-2-0 HUAH!

 

 

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I think  a veteran can get medical benefits if he spent less that 180 days in service.

I had a Veteran fell off the 8 ft wall we have to claim over  in ''Basic Training ''and he fell on his Back and Broke his back  he was medically discharged  with less then 6 weeks ...Well for years and years he never ask the VA for health care  he ask me if I thought he could get it   he was placed on SSDI at age 18   and for OVER 50 years or so  I met him  he was a neighbors Dad  and I took him to the VAMC and he had his DD 214  With less that 8 weeks served.

The Clerk at the VAMC said hold on   a Minute  I need to go check on something about his discharge  his time served.ect,,,ect,,,

...well he came back ask for his Driver License and Birth certificate .(which I had him bring with us)..they made him a VA ID Card  and he seen a VA DR that day and got some pain meds  for his back....How ever he never went back to the VA ..he died a couple years ago.

I am not an Attorney or VSO, any advice I provide is not to be construed as legal advice, therefore not to be held out for liable BUCK!!!

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Now you guys are referring to SERVICE Connected Benefits for comp purposes  but HealthCare is a benefit too!

I am thinking if he was approved for Healthcare  then that should be for S.C. Benefits Also...its a Veteran Benefit.

I am not an Attorney or VSO, any advice I provide is not to be construed as legal advice, therefore not to be held out for liable BUCK!!!

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I got a convenience of the government, entry level discharge after 7years 7months.  It was not "honorable".  I fought it and was retired from the military.  I was very happy to hear that my fight brought to light a workaround on the medical discharge process that the SECNAV was using and a whole lot of discharges needed to be re-evaluated.  They were not processing "entry level" discharges properly and got caught.  

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@Buck,  there are probably a thousand different variations as to why a SM was discharged with less than 180days on active duty, be it for medical reasons, disciplinary,  administrative-to include hardship...

 

As far as health benefits, there are a few scenarios a SM could qualify for health benefits having served less than 180 days active:

1. The SM made it through initial training, and was hurt while on the job.

2. The SM was injured while on training.

3. The SM was found to have a genetic defect that made him/her "unfit" for duty...on and on..

 

Otherwise,  99% of the time the SM is discharged either a "non" status, or "For the good of the government", and has no benefits, medical included.

Sadly, most in the above situation either don't know to fight the discharge, or don't care.

 

Allan 2-2-0 HUAH!

 

 

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Entry Level Separation-ELS is the key word here.

 

The scenarios for education, medical.., benefits are virtually endless.

 

Generally, it's viewed as a "neutral discharge".

 

Allan 2-2-0 HUAH!

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