Jump to content

Ask Your VA Claims Questions | Read Current Posts 
Read VA Disability Claims Articles
Search | View All Forums | Donate | Blogs | New Users | Rules 

  • tbirds-va-claims-struggle (1).png

  • 01-2024-stay-online-donate-banner.png

     

  • 0

Claim Denied For Private Medical Bills

Rate this question


jessejames

Question

The spouse of a (100% P&T since 1992) s/c veteran received the denial letter for the claim I filed for the VA to pay for Private ER and 4 day hospital ICU stay. He was carried from the Nursing Home to a small local ER with uncontrolled seizures either from his Liver s/c or Diabetes s/c conditions in critical condition. The local ER could not stabilize him and called the VAMC where he was enrolled....they said "DO NOT BRING HIM HERE, WE HAVE NO ROOM", all this is documented in his medical records. The VAMC paid for this ER visit, but the only choice left at that point in time was to send him by ambulance to a larger Hospital where he was admitted again in "critical condition" and the VAMC was called again, but there still was no room. He stayed in ICU for 4 days, they were never able to stabilize him and he died 4 days later. The VA approved DIC Benefits based on "Death was due to service-connected conditions", even though it didn't have to be since he had been 100% P&T for 15 years. Now the VAMC denies the second ER Bill along with the ICU Bill stating, "Reason for Denial, Patient NOT in critical condition." How much more critical can you get if you die from the condition you are admitted for?? I called the Congressman and he said, well it's almost impossible to get the VA to pay for outside treatment and it won't do any good to call them, you will just have to file a claim. I explained the Hospital was telling the woman they were turning the Bills over to a Collection Agency, but that don't bother the VA, we're talking pretty big money here and she can't afford these Bills.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Answers 3
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters For This Question

Top Posters For This Question

3 answers to this question

Recommended Posts

  • HadIt.com Elder

They will have to pay. Keep after them they have nor earthly reason not to pay

If I was helping I would take her and the Bills to Fee Service at the VAMC and have a meeting with someone from Fee Service.

Edited by Pete53

Veterans deserve real choice for their health care.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree, the VA should pay the bill...they only add insult to injury now with this BS...don't let them get away with it.

-- John D.

They will have to pay. Keep after them they have nor earthly reason not to pay

If I was helping I would take her and the Bills to Fee Service at the VAMC and have a meeting with someone from Fee Service.

70% TDIU/P&T

Army - RVN - 1969-70 (10th Cav/4th ID, II Corps RVN)

USCG - Galveston, TX - 1976-78 (USCGC Valiant, WMEC 621)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Try contacting Bill Dozier, Field Rep with the VFW in Washington, DC. I don't know who he talked to a couple of years ago, but he got my husband's private medical bills paid quickly, after we had received a denial for payment.

If I can find his number, I'll post it. It's probably online.

I just found this: bdozier@vfwdc.org - 202-543-2239

If this is not current, let me know and I'll search more online.

Edited by morgan
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.


  • Tell a friend

    Love HadIt.com’s VA Disability Community Vets helping Vets since 1997? Tell a friend!
  • Recent Achievements

    • KMac1181 went up a rank
      Rookie
    • Lebro earned a badge
      First Post
    • stuart55 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • stuart55 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Lebro earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
  • Our picks

    • Caluza Triangle defines what is necessary for service connection
      Caluza Triangle – Caluza vs Brown defined what is necessary for service connection. See COVA– CALUZA V. BROWN–TOTAL RECALL

      This has to be MEDICALLY Documented in your records:

      Current Diagnosis.   (No diagnosis, no Service Connection.)

      In-Service Event or Aggravation.
      Nexus (link- cause and effect- connection) or Doctor’s Statement close to: “The Veteran’s (current diagnosis) is at least as likely due to x Event in military service”
      • 0 replies
    • Do the sct codes help or hurt my disability rating 
    • VA has gotten away with (mis) interpreting their  ambigious, , vague regulations, then enforcing them willy nilly never in Veterans favor.  

      They justify all this to congress by calling themselves a "pro claimant Veteran friendly organization" who grants the benefit of the doubt to Veterans.  

      This is not true, 

      Proof:  

          About 80-90 percent of Veterans are initially denied by VA, pushing us into a massive backlog of appeals, or worse, sending impoverished Veterans "to the homeless streets" because  when they cant work, they can not keep their home.  I was one of those Veterans who they denied for a bogus reason:  "Its been too long since military service".  This is bogus because its not one of the criteria for service connection, but simply made up by VA.  And, I was a homeless Vet, albeit a short time,  mostly due to the kindness of strangers and friends. 

          Hadit would not be necessary if, indeed, VA gave Veterans the benefit of the doubt, and processed our claims efficiently and paid us promptly.  The VA is broken. 

          A huge percentage (nearly 100 percent) of Veterans who do get 100 percent, do so only after lengthy appeals.  I have answered questions for thousands of Veterans, and can only name ONE person who got their benefits correct on the first Regional Office decision.  All of the rest of us pretty much had lengthy frustrating appeals, mostly having to appeal multiple multiple times like I did. 

          I wish I know how VA gets away with lying to congress about how "VA is a claimant friendly system, where the Veteran is given the benefit of the doubt".   Then how come so many Veterans are homeless, and how come 22 Veterans take their life each day?  Va likes to blame the Veterans, not their system.   
    • Welcome to hadit!  

          There are certain rules about community care reimbursement, and I have no idea if you met them or not.  Try reading this:

      https://www.va.gov/resources/getting-emergency-care-at-non-va-facilities/

         However, (and I have no idea of knowing whether or not you would likely succeed) Im unsure of why you seem to be so adamant against getting an increase in disability compensation.  

         When I buy stuff, say at Kroger, or pay bills, I have never had anyone say, "Wait!  Is this money from disability compensation, or did you earn it working at a regular job?"  Not once.  Thus, if you did get an increase, likely you would have no trouble paying this with the increase compensation.  

          However, there are many false rumors out there that suggest if you apply for an increase, the VA will reduce your benefits instead.  

      That rumor is false but I do hear people tell Veterans that a lot.  There are strict rules VA has to reduce you and, NOT ONE of those rules have anything to do with applying for an increase.  

      Yes, the VA can reduce your benefits, but generally only when your condition has "actually improved" under ordinary conditions of life.  

          Unless you contacted the VA within 72 hours of your medical treatment, you may not be eligible for reimbursement, or at least that is how I read the link, I posted above. Here are SOME of the rules the VA must comply with in order to reduce your compensation benefits:

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/38/3.344

       
    • Good question.   

          Maybe I can clear it up.  

          The spouse is eligible for DIC if you die of a SC condition OR any condition if you are P and T for 10 years or more.  (my paraphrase).  

      More here:

      Source:

      https://www.va.gov/disability/dependency-indemnity-compensation/

      NOTE:   TO PROVE CAUSE OF DEATH WILL LIKELY REQUIRE AN AUTOPSY.  This means if you die of a SC condtion, your spouse would need to do an autopsy to prove cause of death to be from a SC condtiond.    If you were P and T for 10 full years, then the cause of death may not matter so much. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Guidelines and Terms of Use