ptsd Getting Out Of Psych Ward Today

[betrayed]

W3ell Im going home after 14 days in the crazy house. My Copies of my last C&P's came and my wife broought them to me at the hospital to read. My C&P Physical is beautiful last three sentances say something like will not improve, ability to work poor when I get home I will post exact wording, I have to go read the CFR but me thinks the wording the doc used will get me 100% for PTSD.......................I am hoping my personal war with the VA is finally over and I can move on with my life!

[john999]

Terry

You are lucky you did not get tar and feathers. You questioned the mighty VA. You might have been hanged like Saddam.

[john999]

If you tell the VA that you are going to kill yourself you will find yourself being admitted to the nuthouse pronto.

[sixthscents]

Well, to be honest I hope you are feeling better, but the main thing that is important is your well being... not your C&P. I am sure that you didnt mean the post to be the way it sounded, you are just happy to be getting home and hopefully feeling more centered and happy. Thats the important thing. Perhaps I just read it the wrong way, like I said, I am sure that the C&P is secondary in importance to you.

I personally know that there is a certain sense of..well heck relief I suppose when doctors agree that there is something wrong with you. I mean you wonder is it just me? Am I dreaming this crap up? Then a doctor, or doctors say no, this is why you are in pain, etc... Then you can start to get what is broken fixed (hopefully). You get a sense that things CAN be fixed, and will get better, at least I did.

Someone said if you say your suicidal they will put you in a psych home etc... well, I have... repeatedly ... my opinion is that if my quality of life degrads to the point that it is no longer meaningful, and if I am simply a burden, well I wouldnt hesitate to put an animal out of its misery... so, I have a plan.. its meticulous, detailed, and I have the necessary items already set aside should the need arise. Now.. with that said I'm not going to kill myself tomorrow, but neither will I be a burden upon my family, or allow my daughter to grow up with a daddy whos drugged out of his gourd 24-7. Just aint gonna happen. I have a living will that stipulates in EXTREME detail what treatment I can and cannot be given. I belive in euthanasia. Does that make me crazy... nope it just means that I hold views and opinion that in our culture are not the norm. They havent tried to put me anywhere... yet anyway...

Anyway.. I am glad you are out, and going home. I hope that it works out well for you and that you are happy. Life is just to short for anything else.

[sixthscents]

Terry,

I thought you were still in a VA home of some kind.. Is that correct, or have I gotten my facts confused?

[betrayed]

Well, to be honest I hope you are feeling better, but the main thing that is important is your well being... not your C&P.

Anyway.. I am glad you are out, and going home. I hope that it works out well for you and that you are happy. Life is just to short for anything else.

I am feeling better but the two are related, a big part of my depression and anger is the way my claim has been handled, and living in poverty because of it. This stay in the ward wasnt without its own problems on the second or third day I was accused of being there simply to raise my compensation and there was nothing wrong with me. This pompus doctor (Doctor X) who I have never seen before comes in and tells me that being in the hospital 30, 60 or 90 days wont raise my compensation level. Following a treatment plan and compliance will. It caught me off guard and I didnt know what to say. Later that night I realized a statement I made to the social worker had caused this

"when my compensation fight with the va is over I will have about 75% of the stress and depression removed from my back"

the next morning I was getting meds and the nurse says I heard your trying to get your comp raised. I blew a nut. I immediatley realized this had been spread through the entire pysch ward staff that there was nothing wrong with me and I was trying to get my % uped. The next day I talk to my doctor and another doctor and tell them what I think and they pretty much admit that is what doctor x ment. They backed down and said ok he is wrong. For two days I tried to address this slander and no one would talk to me about it. then a very senior pyschiatrist comes in and tells me when I mention it, your right I will stipulate that Dr X was wrong but he wont discuss it either. Over the weekend I have my wife bring files from home and on monday I talk with my doctor and show him everything and he is speechless.................then I show the freaking social worker and she says well its all you talk about, and I say dam right, I served my country for 28 years I asked for voc rehab and was turned down because I am untrainable and unemployable. I wanted to work, I had plans and dreams and you the VA has labled me with this title. But on the other hand the VA has screwed up my claim so bad and now my family and I live in poverty..........would you expect me to just say oh well thats life? This effects me every day of my life and causes most of my depression. I then showed her my C&P exams and said if you people would educate your self about your patients then maybe you could help them, why do I see the same people up here that were in here with me before, you have a serious problem here if the same patients keep coming back time and time again. In the end they admitted that Dr X was wrong and that I do have serious problems. I was admitted for being suicidal and homicidal and I get accused of malingering?

I later found out that Dr X is a C&P examiner.........that explains everything

I am now going to out patient therapy 4 days a week and taking all these meds.

[john999]

USN308

If a vet goes to the ER and tells them in a serious way that he is going to kill himself and the VA does not take some action they will be on the hook if the vet does kill himself. All it would take is a trip to the local newspaper and have the widow or friend tell what happened and it will be on or near page one. That would be malpractice just the same as if a man went to the VA ER with severe chest pains and they turned him away. In my state the hospitals have a duty to protect suicidal people from themselves. They must determine if the person is serious and has a plan or is just venting. If they determine the person has a plan they must do something to protect that person.