Government Money Not Yours Personally

[lamontino]

I keep hearing about vets this and vets that. LOok at the employees that work for the system. SOme of them could care two cents about you. In fact, they figure they only making alittle money why should you be granted being set for life (so they think). SO what do they do they make it hard for you like its their money.

And they should make a law against Government employees that commit fraud on real veterans of benefits rightfully theres. Changing files around, adding little notes on the files to destroy the claim, requiring vets to go to numerous doctors exams when there is suffcient evidence there in the c file to grant an award, than if they really dont like you and the examinator connects the dot and they dont like his decision they send you for another exam etc.....They just get a slap on the arm for denying a vet many many years of benefits rightfully their.

There is a such thing as "Time Served Prejudice".What I mean is, that there people out here whom think so what if you got hurt if you didnt make it out of basic training you shouldnt get a dime. They could even be the very vets that is suppose to be helping you.

Than they want to excuse someone of trying to get over on the system when the system got over on the vet.........lol.........Its real funny tho. How a person can laugh and grin in your face and pretend to want to help you but is destroying you in the background. I remember hearing a RO say to another Rater ""I rate base on what Side of the Bed I got out on"".

I think employee, trainers, RO, etc.....whom Tampers a clearly rightfully claim for benefits should be charge with FRAUD. I might even suggest that To my congressMan

Edited October 10, 2007 by lamontino

[LarryJ]

BTW Bro Lamontino, I'm traveling East.

[lamontino]

Peace be un to you brother LarryJ,

Hey I just wanted to point out to everyone about the VA trying to get regulations and statutes passed in the senate to protect them from fraudent claimants. But I feel that they should point out that their could be potential employees in their very system that mishandles the claim processing.

Insurance company law and Federal laws has always felt and need for regulations against both party not just one, and made is a TOrT law so that one could sue.

I think you should keep up with your fight for justice. I think if anyone has a slight prejudice against a person that was, (probably not to even change MOS??) should think about serching for other forums websites..Just my opinion on the matter..

I'm glad tho that VETs are finally coming fore-with and sharing your thoughts(takes alot of weight off ya;) and alot of pain.

There are alot of good MEN and WOman here. BUt at the same token we must note and affirm that there are alot of "time served" Vets that dont want to see his own brother get a dime.

P.S. Soldier we will all look to the East ONe day in A TIme..

WE MUST Help THo for that gain of sand to cross Respect and HOnor to you Soldier YOu are an MARINE OF Justice&ORder and Never forgot that

BTW Bro Lamontino, I'm traveling East.

Edited October 11, 2007 by lamontino

[allan]

>I don't consider anyone that didn't evan pass basic training as a veteran.

I find that to be an absolute shame, that anyone would come to a Veterans site where Wives, Mothers, Husbands, Fathers are burying their loves ones that stepped up to serve, but gave it all during basic training. Yes, some do die during training.

I realize this government didn't get to run their carcass into the ground like they would have, but they still gave their life for our country.

Not a Veteran? Shame on you sir. They may not fit the criteria, but it wouldn't hurt you to be more considerate.

Our military goes through some of the most rigorous training of any military in the world.

Some give their life and suffer life long injuries due to military training.

You could help us all by supporting mandatory funding, instead of cherry picking what you don't like about VETERANS and feeding the board inaccurate information.

Allan

[timetowinarace]

Here is one reason I feel a veteran is a veteran at enlistment for bennifits purposes.

I know a kid right now that is emotionally unstable but has enlisted in the marines. The marines KNOW he is unstable as he was hospitalized for attempted suicide while in the delayed entry program. He was admited to a mental health ward. The recruiter visited him while he was recieving care. They are going to put him in service.

Obviously this is a pre-existing condition. Obviously he is not fit for duty. He will fail, I promise.

Once he begins training he belongs to the DOD. Let's look at it like buying a car. The DOD needs cars (soldiers). In this case they have knowingly bought a faulty car (because new cars [soldiers] are hard to find). In my view, they bought it, they own it.

This kid has hid nothing. He has tried to opt out but they lie and tell him he must go.

When he returns in much worse shape, I will do everything I can to ensure he recieves benifits. They bought him, they can pay for repairs.

I started a thread on this kid some time ago. Some may remember it. I got some really good advice from a couple of board members. Unfurtunatley, to these friends of mine, I am a friend, but they see the recruiters as having authority. Who do you think they listen to? They listen to the recruiters that threaten jail. So the DOD bought a faulty car with their lies and will have to be accountable for it.

Time

[carlie]

My opinion:

Service member is in the third week of basic training, out doing a five mile forced road march.

Here comes a jeep, a deer jumps out in front of the jeep and the driver looses control.

Service member gets ran over, with the right hand being crushed, an ammo box falls off the jeep and pounds service member in the head. Service member has surgery 3 times on hand that

includes a plate and screws; service member begins having grand mal seizures and becomes

abusive, suicidal and alcohol dependant.

Service member is discharged for willful misconduct.

My opinion: This service member should be fully entitled to all veterans benefits.

jmho,

carlie

[cowgirl]

3 Questions in one. When is someone a veteran, eligible for VA care and if released from boot camp recieve a DD 214? or what?'

I searched and found this basic info.

The term “ Veteran ” means a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was discharged or released therefrom under conditions other than dishonorable.

To be eligible for Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) benefits based on the service of a veteran, a discharge under conditions other than dishonorable is required.

(ELS) Entry level separations, or uncharacterized discharge, are given to individuals who separate prior to completing 180 days of military service, or when discharge action was initiated prior to 180 days of service. This type of discharge does not attempt to characterize service as good or bad; however, punitive and/or administrative discharges may be given to servicemembers within their first 180 days for serious misconduct

Edited October 12, 2007 by cowgirl