ptsd Getting Out Of Psych Ward Today

[betrayed]

W3ell Im going home after 14 days in the crazy house. My Copies of my last C&P's came and my wife broought them to me at the hospital to read. My C&P Physical is beautiful last three sentances say something like will not improve, ability to work poor when I get home I will post exact wording, I have to go read the CFR but me thinks the wording the doc used will get me 100% for PTSD.......................I am hoping my personal war with the VA is finally over and I can move on with my life!

[john999]

Jim

I think you should keep your mouth shut about your war with the VA when you are at the VA. You want to talk about your service connected symptoms and that is all. These people already suspect every vet of fraud and trying to shake down the system. The pathetic patient routine is better than the angry patient. If you piss them off they will retaliate in the way they know how by writing medical evaluations that screw you. They are not professional. We have to be the professionals.

[Philip Rogers]

I am feeling better but the two are related, a big part of my depression and anger is the way my claim has been handled, and living in poverty because of it. This stay in the ward wasnt without its own problems on the second or third day I was accused of being there simply to raise my compensation and there was nothing wrong with me. This pompus doctor (Doctor X) who I have never seen before comes in and tells me that being in the hospital 30, 60 or 90 days wont raise my compensation level. Following a treatment plan and compliance will. It caught me off guard and I didnt know what to say. Later that night I realized a statement I made to the social worker had caused this

"when my compensation fight with the va is over I will have about 75% of the stress and depression removed from my back"

the next morning I was getting meds and the nurse says I heard your trying to get your comp raised. I blew a nut. I immediatley realized this had been spread through the entire pysch ward staff that there was nothing wrong with me and I was trying to get my % uped. The next day I talk to my doctor and another doctor and tell them what I think and they pretty much admit that is what doctor x ment. They backed down and said ok he is wrong. For two days I tried to address this slander and no one would talk to me about it. then a very senior pyschiatrist comes in and tells me when I mention it, your right I will stipulate that Dr X was wrong but he wont discuss it either. Over the weekend I have my wife bring files from home and on monday I talk with my doctor and show him everything and he is speechless.................then I show the freaking social worker and she says well its all you talk about, and I say dam right, I served my country for 28 years I asked for voc rehab and was turned down because I am untrainable and unemployable. I wanted to work, I had plans and dreams and you the VA has labled me with this title. But on the other hand the VA has screwed up my claim so bad and now my family and I live in poverty..........would you expect me to just say oh well thats life? This effects me every day of my life and causes most of my depression. I then showed her my C&P exams and said if you people would educate your self about your patients then maybe you could help them, why do I see the same people up here that were in here with me before, you have a serious problem here if the same patients keep coming back time and time again. In the end they admitted that Dr X was wrong and that I do have serious problems. I was admitted for being suicidal and homicidal and I get accused of malingering?

I later found out that Dr X is a C&P examiner.........that explains everything

I am now going to out patient therapy 4 days a week and taking all these meds.

I'm fairly sure "truth" is an absolute defense to slander. You were and are trying to get your compensation raised, so it's not slander. Personally I'm suspect of you but I have that right to my opinion. Me thinks you doth protest too much. Am I to understand you served active duty in the military for the 28 years you served your country and are retired military? jmo

pr

[betrayed]

I'm fairly sure "truth" is an absolute defense to slander. You were and are trying to get your compensation raised, so it's not slander. Personally I'm suspect of you but I have that right to my opinion.

Am I to understand you served active duty in the military for the 28 years you served your country and are retired military? jmo

pr

Yes you are right I retired after 28 years and my X wife gets half my retirement and alimoney on top of that..........

I am trying to get the benifits that are due to me under the law nothing more nothing less, I was in the psych ward because I had thoughts of going postal and shooting innocent people going down the road in front of my house and it scared the hell out of me.

Now please explain the opinion that you state you have a right to? If your going to suspect me and publically announce that fact then I have a right to know why you suspect me?

[Philip Rogers]

Yes you are right I retired after 28 years and my X wife gets half my retirement and alimoney on top of that..........

I am trying to get the benifits that are due to me under the law nothing more nothing less, I was in the psych ward because I had thoughts of going postal and shooting innocent people going down the road in front of my house and it scared the hell out of me.

Now please explain the opinion that you state you have a right to? If your going to suspect me and publically announce that fact then I have a right to know why you suspect me?

Technically your ex is entitled to half of your retirement for the hardship she put up with living the military lifestyle, so no sympathy there. Alimony I always disagree with unless it's shortterm (like 1 year) to help her stabilize her life. Personally, and it's just my feelings, from your posts and how cavalier you seem to be, I see someone looking for the gravy train. Now that Congress has allowed what I consider double dipping I feel you're just trying to double your income easily. You're probably a really nice guy and have a valid claim but I sense differently. Sorry!!!! I wish you good luck in your attempt at getting 100%. jmo

pr

[huskerfanfl]

Phillip,

It is interesting that you consider it double dipping. I assume that this is because the disability and the retirement are both for the same period of service. In your opinion is it double dipping if one had spent say a year or two in the military, incurredan injury for which he/she gets disability and then goes to work as a civilian either in the government or private sector and then earns a retirement? Is it double dipping if a person gets VA compensation and Social Security for the same disability? I am not trying to belittle you, it is just that most people will say one thing is double dipping but would not apply it to other situations.

[Philip Rogers]

Phillip,

It is interesting that you consider it double dipping. I assume that this is because the disability and the retirement are both for the same period of service. In your opinion is it double dipping if one had spent say a year or two in the military, incurredan injury for which he/she gets disability and then goes to work as a civilian either in the government or private sector and then earns a retirement? Is it double dipping if a person gets VA compensation and Social Security for the same disability? I am not trying to belittle you, it is just that most people will say one thing is double dipping but would not apply it to other situations.

I have no problem with a year or 2 in military, getting injured and receiving VA comp and then earning retirement from government service. My problem with it is that that benefit was removed years ago and knowing that benefit was removed those who remained in the military continued their service. Then when they retire they want both. I disagree. VA comp is a subsidy for the loss of earnings your disability causes and it is not meant to replace your income. A person receiving VA comp can still work and earn income, unless receiving TDIU. SSDI is for a current disability and although the disabilities may be the same they are separate issues. Hope I've explained it correctly. jmo and that doesn't mean I'm correct. It's just how I feel.

pr